I really like the Split Wards

I've seen a decent amount of people upset about the new ward split between FC and private housing. I honestly understand why they are bummed about it. However, I won't lie I'm really happy for this change for the following reasons:

1) FC housing can house many different people unlike private housing.

2) They make our neighborhood system much more alive since there’s more people in the neighborhood thanks to multiple people sharing a FC house.

3) FC only wards sound really fun. So many possibilities like block parties, FC mixers and more! (I remember doing those things years ago in ARR before Heavensward was out and loved it)

I honestly preferred when FC housing was the only option. I legit believe private homes caused a lot of our housing issues of today such as supply not being able to keep up with demand and the emptiness feeling of most wards.

I know what I wrote will be an unpopular opinion on this site, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in since I'm seeing many posts that are the complete opposite.

I'm all for separating the two types of wards and am happy as a peach in pie that FCs I know will have a significant chance at getting a home. The majority of my interaction with housing is RP/social events where having lots of people outside is common and I'm hoping to see more people active in the FC only wards in the future.

However, after seeing Lucky Bancho's newest census and finding out that the number of 1-3 player FCs on my server (Japanese, so kind of unexpected) is off the charts high, I wish they'd had more personal housing districts instead of FC. I'd like a house, though I can take it or leave it, but I really do wish my friends in other FCs are able to get a house for their group rather than the (likely) shell FCs.

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

I'm all for separating the two types of wards and am happy as a peach in pie that FCs I know will have a significant chance at getting a home. The majority of my interaction with housing is RP/social events where having lots of people outside is common and I'm hoping to see more people active in the FC only wards in the future.

However, after seeing Lucky Bancho's newest census and finding out that the number of 1-3 player FCs on my server (Japanese, so kind of unexpected) is off the charts high, I wish they'd had more personal housing districts instead of FC. I'd like a house, though I can take it or leave it, but I really do wish my friends in other FCs are able to get a house for their group rather than the (likely) shell FCs.

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I wish they would just fix the system that lets under sized fake FCs buy houses.

The fact you actually genuinely do think that there will be "block parties" when 80% of houses are just dummy fcs used for submarines, abandoned and left to rot there outside of that purpose is pretty comical, there might be 2 or 3 lost people at large fc houses, but there wont be block parties I can tell you that much, neither will there be interactions, nothing will change except the even more limited housing for personal buyers.

I dont blame you to be nostalgic of how it used to be in the past, but we are not at that point anymore, far from it, i think you are delusional to expect any kind of new interactions because of this change.

I’m fine with there being FC and private but to split it 75% to 25% is extremely unfair. I want to have total control of my yard and decor and have save space for myself. Not some room in an FC. The lottery was already going to make it harder to transfer and first time buyers and now only giving 5 wards to private buyers? Why even try? I’ve wanted to move to Ishgard since HW and now the likelihood of that happening is zero. They should have split the wards more evenly.

I’ll never give up my house in Shirogane now. Guess I’ll grab an apartment in Ishgard for storage

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I’m fine with there being FC and private but to split it 75% to 25% is extremely unfair. I want to have total control of my yard and decor and have save space for myself. Not some room in an FC. The lottery was already going to make it harder to transfer and first time buyers and now only giving 5 wards to private buyers? Why even try? I’ve wanted to move to Ishgard since HW and now the likelihood of that happening is zero. They should have split the wards more evenly.

I’ll never give up my house in Shirogane now. Guess I’ll grab an apartment in Ishgard for storage

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It gives a total of 300 new houses for what, over 100k players ?

This will surely help a lot (lol)

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The fact you actually genuinely do think that there will be "block parties" when 80% of houses are just dummy fcs used for submarines, abandoned and left to rot there outside of that purpose is pretty comical.

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Where are you getting this 80% number from? There’s absolutely no way 80% of the current FC houses in the game are abandoned dummy houses….

The LuckyBancho census for my server estimates there are about 2200 FCs. Not all, but many do have an FC. With 75% of the housing being FC only, that's 1080 FC plots. I wouldn't be surprised if nearly every FC that wants a plot will get a plot. In a smarter world, FCs with no house will stick to smalls. They'll probably have little-to-no competition... assuming players are smart enough to put in a ticket on smalls that have few tickets purchased. Leave the mediums and larges for FCs that are looking to relo. They have nothing to lose, so they'll happily put in for a medium or large against many other FCs.

I have FC's all around my private house and I literally only see one of their members like twice a month, and i'm online everyday :p

With the lottery as currently implemented, the more people who have been in the FC for 30 days, the more opportunities for a FC to obtain a house... ideally, this means larger and more active FCs have a better chance of being chosen in the lottery.

I still don't know why it is only 6 large houses per ward when SE knows it is medium and large in highest demand.. why not design wards with only those size of houses?

FCs like mine are stuck in a ward that's now designated for individual houses, and we can only move if an individual leaves one of the other wards designated for FCs, which they won't because only 25% of the plots are for individuals and they'll all (statistically) fail the lotteries against the tens of thousands of people who don't have a house at all. Except for Ishgard, which has this system to start with, any sort of shuffling/filtering effect will be minimal and glacial.

Housing has been a total disaster ever since they opened them up to individuals, but it's already done and every change since is like...they're not making things worse, but they're so minor in the face of the severely limited number of houses that they make very little difference.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The fact you actually genuinely do think that there will be "block parties" when 80% of houses are just dummy fcs used for submarines, abandoned and left to rot there outside of that purpose is pretty comical, there might be 2 or 3 lost people at large fc houses, but there wont be block parties I can tell you that much, neither will there be interactions, nothing will change except the even more limited housing for personal buyers.

I dont blame you to be nostalgic of how it used to be in the past, but we are not at that point anymore, far from it, i think you are delusional to expect any kind of new interactions because of this change.

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Please refer to this post here

I have taken time in the other thread to detail why your 80% number is incorrect. You need to stop reinforcing a made up number that continues to confuse people and mislead the topic. The current trend of houses across all servers before 6.1's release today was 30% FC houses and 70% Personal houses.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The fact you actually genuinely do think that there will be "block parties" when 80% of houses are just dummy fcs used for submarines, abandoned and left to rot there outside of that purpose is pretty comical

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This. Even on Balmung, home of roleplaying, housing districts are like ghost towns. The most I ever see is a person standing afk near a bell/market board. You could probably wander through every single ward during primetime and not find a soul out RPing outside of their house.

Have had a house since 2016. I don't really spend time in Limsa but instead am at my housing area all the time. I almost never see other people in all those years.

I've been on Moogle > Omega > Cerberus > Zodiark > Cerberus and now back on Moogle. I've always had a new house relatively fast whenever I transfered. So different kinds of wards and also on other locations and it's always been the same issue of nobody being there.

Even on larger FC's nearby. A few times I've been in larger FC's and again there's almost nobody from the own FC going to their estate, only exception is a few dedicate people who 24/7 in the room where you launch voyages and such.

Today I saw a ton of people recruiting for 'personal FC's just so they can buy a house for solo use.


They should just let it mixed, people will abuse & exploit it anyway and the majority of the 'FC group houses' will be for solo use.

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Originally Posted by k99

Please refer to this post here

I have taken time in the other thread to detail why your 80% number is incorrect. You need to stop reinforcing a made up number that continues to confuse people and mislead the topic. The current trend of houses across all servers before 6.1's release today was 30% FC houses and 70% Personal houses.

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I'm afraid you cannot read, and on that one I cant help you. Personal house vs fc house was never even mentioned as a comparison.

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Originally Posted by PMSJordan

I wish they would just fix the system that lets under sized fake FCs buy houses.

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Amen!

Just imagine if they added a system that multiplied the number of entries for that FC by the FCs rank? That would give legit and active FCs a huge advantage in getting a house. Even a 5 player rank 10 FC would have a much greater chance at getting a plot than a rank 6 RMT shell FC. On the flip side, the social media outrage would create one of the most insane dumpster fires we'll have seen in this game.

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Originally Posted by PMSJordan

Where are you getting this 80% number from? There’s absolutely no way 80% of the current FC houses in the game are abandoned dummy houses….

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They're not getting it from anywhere, it's clearly a nonsense figure they just made up.