Getting into Housing

Is getting into the housing system at all possible right now? I finally saved up my first 3,000,000 gil and was hoping to get a small plot, but...

I guess I picked the wrong server for that. :confused: There isn't a single available plot in any ward of the four active residential zones in Midgardsormr.

Plus, apparently auto-demo has been frozen, so...

Should I just change server? Is there a way to check housing availability on other servers? Am I just SOL? I've kinda been looking forward to this for a while, but if I'm SOL then I'm SOL

All you can do is keep your fingers crossed and check wards often, then pray none of the housing bots set up camp at the placard when one is actually available.

Basically any server is the "wrong server" right now, coupled with the fact that auto demolition is turned off. Your best, if not only hope will be the next patch which will introduce Ishgard housing along with a lottery system.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Basically any server is the "wrong server" right now, coupled with the fact that auto demolition is turned off. Your best, if not only hope will be the next patch which will introduce Ishgard housing along with a lottery system.

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Aw, shucks.

The fact that they're even putting this band-aid solution on the system says to me that they know the supply is way too low for the demand, but that's a can of worms I'm not at all qualified to open.

Guess I got nothing to do till 6.1, except... more ALC grinding? More ALC grinding.

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

Aw, shucks.

The fact that they're even putting this band-aid solution on the system says to me that they know the supply is way too low for the demand, but that's a can of worms I'm not at all qualified to open.

Guess I got nothing to do till 6.1, except... more ALC grinding? More ALC grinding.

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Yeah, it's not an ideal fix for a terribly designed system. I would argue that it's not even better than nothing. But it is what it is for now until they choose to fix housing in a meaningful way.

I hear OCE servers have open houses. But I've not checked recently.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

I hear OCE servers have open houses. But I've not checked recently.

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Yeah, you get housing but the DC is dead. :D

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Yeah, you get housing but the DC is dead. :D

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Eventually there will be people. Possibly because they were looking for housing.. but all I'm saying is there are places you can go.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

I hear OCE servers have open houses. But I've not checked recently.

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No, we have zero housing. It's all closed off.

All old cities, locked. You can't even do the housing quests!

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Originally Posted by Shibi

No, we have zero housing. It's all closed off.

All old cities, locked. You can't even do the housing quests!

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This is accurate. ^
We're all homeless, living on the streets of Limsa.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

This is accurate. ^
We're all homeless, living on the streets of Limsa.

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in the nude? hmmm?

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

This is accurate. ^
We're all homeless, living on the streets of Limsa.

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Its true!

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Unfortunately the devs simply do not care to fix the issue. They've been putting bandaids on it since housing was first introduced and there is no sign that anything will change in regards to that. It is incredibly disappointed since even games from as far back as 2004 (Everquest 2) had MUCH better housing that was available to everyone or 2007 (Lord of the Rings Online) which used the neighborhood system that FFXIV copied and did it far better. When a housing district/neighborhood got close to being filled a new one would be automatically created to provide more housing.

While I understand that the FFXIV systems weren't designed the same way or with housing in mind(apparently), the fact that they just keep tacking more spaghetti code in to try and make it work rather than rehaul the system is very frustrating. And the limits they claim exist have been shown time and time again to not actually be limits. Originally it was impossible to increase item limits in houses, then they increased it. It was impossible to add more wards, and then they did. It was impossible to add any more district space and then they added subdivisions. It was impossible to give us more instanced housing and then they gave us apartments.

So either they are lying when they say things can't be done or they are duct taping code together to make it happen. They would have been much better off to redo the whole thing from the ground up and we are likely so deep down the rabbit hole now they won't go back.

More like Square not allowing them to fix it (increasing budget).

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

Unfortunately the devs simply do not care to fix the issue. They've been putting bandaids on it since housing was first introduced and there is no sign that anything will change in regards to that. It is incredibly disappointed since even games from as far back as 2004 (Everquest 2) had MUCH better housing that was available to everyone or 2007 (Lord of the Rings Online) which used the neighborhood system that FFXIV copied and did it far better. When a housing district/neighborhood got close to being filled a new one would be automatically created to provide more housing.

While I understand that the FFXIV systems weren't designed the same way or with housing in mind(apparently), the fact that they just keep tacking more spaghetti code in to try and make it work rather than rehaul the system is very frustrating. And the limits they claim exist have been shown time and time again to not actually be limits. Originally it was impossible to increase item limits in houses, then they increased it. It was impossible to add more wards, and then they did. It was impossible to add any more district space and then they added subdivisions. It was impossible to give us more instanced housing and then they gave us apartments.

So either they are lying when they say things can't be done or they are duct taping code together to make it happen. They would have been much better off to redo the whole thing from the ground up and we are likely so deep down the rabbit hole now they won't go back.

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housing serves a very important function in the overall game health in that it helps populate datacenters that would otherwise be left barren as people crowded and flocked to the more popular ones
take for example the current oceania DC situation, the place is barren because housing has not been enabled yet, very reminiscent of wow/gw2/new world servers a few weeks into the release of a new expansion.
FFXIV solves this by making houses, an extremely high demand item, available on a server basis, causing every datacenter to be naturally populated as people seek houses to buy

Similarly speaking there are a lot of mechanics in the game that look dumb but serve a purpose, such as shadowbringers relics being grindable in heavensward zones and stormblood alliance raids, which were done so to create the illusion that those areas were populated, so as to trick free trial players into subscribing.

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

housing serves a very important function in the overall game health in that it helps populate datacenters that would otherwise be left barren as people crowded and flocked to the more popular ones
take for example the current oceania DC situation, the place is barren because housing has not been enabled yet, very reminiscent of wow/gw2/new world servers a few weeks into the release of a new expansion.
FFXIV solves this by making houses, an extremely high demand item, available on a server basis, causing every datacenter to be naturally populated as people seek houses to buy

Similarly speaking there are a lot of mechanics in the game that look dumb but serve a purpose, such as shadowbringers relics being grindable in heavensward zones and stormblood alliance raids, which were done so to create the illusion that those areas were populated, so as to trick free trial players into subscribing.

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I wouldnt necessarily word it like that with the ShB relic weapon grinds. It was more so to keep old zones/content still relevant for current game instead of falling into the typical WoW trap of nothing mattering after the previous expansion. Also to help new players not get into dead queues for when they're trying to run those raids first time as well.

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

...take for example the current oceania DC situation, the place is barren because housing has not been enabled yet, very reminiscent of wow/gw2/new world servers a few weeks into the release of a new expansion...

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Absolutely. SE is doing the new DC a huge disservice by locking housing for so long.

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

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So either they are lying when they say things can't be done or they are duct taping code together to make it happen. They would have been much better off to redo the whole thing from the ground up and we are likely so deep down the rabbit hole now they won't go back.

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It's pretty common to use "it's not possible" as a shorthand for "it's possible but we don't think it's worth it".

I suggest an apartment. Most servers have them available, whether in the housing areas or via FC.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

It's pretty common to use "it's not possible" as a shorthand for "it's possible but we don't think it's worth it".

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Pretty much this. There's also the problem of it affecting current homeowners and those with grandfathered homes, which will just cause more of a storm than the one they have now if anyone loses anything.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

It's pretty common to use "it's not possible" as a shorthand for "it's possible but we don't think it's worth it".

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They have data and you don’t
They know how many houses are actually decorated and used.
They know the fact how many are screaming simply because they want it, got it and then just leave it deserted

They could probably add more wards to the current districts.

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Originally Posted by Veranolth

They could probably add more wards to the current districts.

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They already went the server optimization route to add more wards in 5.3 using existing server hardware and were only able to squeeze out an additional three wards when they had hoped for more.

That means any new ward expansion will require obtaining more server hardware and contracting physical space at the locations where the data center hardware is to have room for the additional hardware. It sounds simple but it can be difficult to arrange because there's a lot of reliance on outside parties and what they have available.

is checking manually the only way to know if a house is up for sale?

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Originally Posted by hagare

is checking manually the only way to know if a house is up for sale?

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If you mean has a chance of being available you can only know by looking through the wards from the NPC who teleports you in or being IN the ward with the available and looking at the map. If you're talking about being purchasable as in the random timer has expired and you can just walk up and buy it, you can only find that out by clicking the placard and attempting to buy it.

you can get an apartment!

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

you can get an apartment!

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I have an apartment already, but the sad thing about apartments is that you can't exterior decorate or garden.

It would also be nice to have separate rooms and floors...

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

you can get an apartment!

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Apartments are so incredibly tiny. They don't offer the space or versatility that houses do.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

you can get an apartment!

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They're just FC rooms without the commitment. Hardly qualifies as a house as they currently stand.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

They're just FC rooms without the commitment. Hardly qualifies as a house as they currently stand.

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True but you can get decently creative with the limited space. It also helps to AT LEAST use/store any furnishing you've collected throughout the game normally. Yeah we really do need some form of instance housing as an alternate way to perma plot housing

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

you can get an apartment!

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There are no apartments in Balmung. Sucks to be us.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

There are no apartments in Balmung. Sucks to be us.

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One of the things that makes me a bit annoyed with SE. They said when apartments were added that it would be easy to increase the number of wings per building if there was need. which is why apartments didn't need demolition like houses.

Balmung has need on a couple of occasions and SE does nothing. I'm sure at this point they're expecting Ishgard to fill the demand but considering how huge the player base has grown, those 4320 new apartments could also disappear quickly.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Balmung has need on a couple of occasions and SE does nothing. I'm sure at this point they're expecting Ishgard to fill the demand but considering how huge the player base has grown, those 4320 new apartments could also disappear quickly.

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As apartments are in short supply on Balmung -- If there are no FCFS wards... it would likely be wise for all Balmungians with a spare 500,000g to snap one of the Ishgard apartments up before heading out to do any lottery.

It can always be an extra store room to dump furniture the retainers bring back, if nothing else.