A New Restoration? Ala Mhigo?

I was wondering whether they'd mention any plans for another Restoration-esque content. Or, gatherer/crafter focused content.

It would be amazing if they can actually turn the Ala Mhigan Quarter into less of a quarter and more of a proper city-state, especially since I recall Ala Mhigo was meant to be a starting city. It just feels like it ended up getting shafted in terms of detail on it's actual... well, city. It's just a receptacle for the command room and menagerie for cutscenes. With the Island and Ishgard, I'm not wondering if it'll have housing -- that'd be a miracle. I just wonder if they'll actually do it justice.

I honestly expect Garlemald or Kholusia restoration before we get Ala Mhigo. Stormblood already has a housing district, ShB and EW don't... and neither did HW before Empyrium.

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

I honestly expect Garlemald or Kholusia restoration before we get Ala Mhigo. Stormblood already has a housing district, ShB and EW don't...

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I'm not expecting a housing district, given how there's Island and Ishgard in the works. I'd like a detailed city-state you can walk around a la Radz-at-Han. Just give it something to push across this place is actually being rebuilt.

Given Tataru is starting her own trading company, and the fact we will have a Tataru's questline. I'd like to bet its going to be the crafter/gatherer endgame for EW

No one cares for Ala Mhigo, not even the devs. It was evident when Xelphatol was condensed on to a dungeon, Same with Ala Mhigo, & you need only look to the fact Doma reconstruction & Shirogane were chosen both over anything in Gyr Abania...

Hell, we had to go help all of Othard before even coming back to Erozea to finish what we put on the back burner. Not even Ala Mhigans cared enough to leave Little Ala Mhigo to help take it back.

Sad as it it is to say it, Ala Mhigo will more than likely stay only a meeting hub for cut scenes.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

No one cares for Ala Mhigo, not even the devs. It was evident when Xelphatol was condensed on to a dungeon, Same with Ala Mhigo, & you need only look to the fact Doma reconstruction & Shirogane were chosen both over anything in Gyr Abania...

Hell, we had to go help all of Othard before even coming back to Erozea to finish what we put on the back burner. Not even Ala Mhigans cared enough to leave Little Ala Mhigo to help take it back.

Sad as it it is to say it, Ala Mhigo will more than likely stay only a meeting hub for cut scenes.

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Yup. Always found it... ineresting, how both Doma and Ala Mhigo were left in ruins, but only Doma gets any assistance in rebuilding while Ala Mhigo just gets brushed off with "ehh, they have Nanamo funding them"

Ala Mhigans watching us help rebuild Doma, then off to rebuild Ishgard, and then potentially Garlemald, while they're still cleaning the rubble off their streets:
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Alphinaud and Alisaie say they're going out to go help with Garlemald's restoration in their talk with them at the end of the MSQ... I fully assume we're going to go help them eventually, and if I had to take a wild guess on what kind content it is it'll be Firmament 2: Garlean Boogaloo.

I'd like Doma to get more restoration content so we can work it into a housing district.

There's just a glaring hole in the quality of Ala Mhigo compared to all other city-states. As much as I want to say the lack of care to it is due to the crazy height of stakes post-Stormblood (set-up for Shadowbringers and the entirety of Endwalker), it really does feel like the devs just don't give a damn about it.

Hell, we don't even have FURNISHING. Or even wallpaper or stuff like that. It really does feel like they pretend it doesn't exist outside of a convenient spot for NPCs to gather.

It's gonna be rebuilding Garlemald. I feel it in my bowels.

Also are people forgetting about the time we recovered a massive treasure trove and gave it back to the people of Ala Mihgo and rebuilt the salt industry?

Ala Mihgo is fine. It's just not being reflected in game.

If they do a new restoration I'd like it to be Baldesion Restoration as a kind of sharlayan housing. Storyline wise it'd add an extra layer of closure to the isle of val. They could have interesting elemental effects to make the area feel high magic and interesting, and use Sharlayan Architecture to tie the whole thing together.

Just set it on a 'safe' side of the isle so you dont need to do Eureka you know?

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Originally Posted by Maxilor

It's gonna be rebuilding Garlemald. I feel it in my bowels.

Also are people forgetting about the time we recovered a massive treasure trove and gave it back to the people of Ala Mihgo and rebuilt the salt industry?

Ala Mihgo is fine. It's just not being reflected in game.

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Yeah, I understand that. Restoration isn't the right word, but I just related it to Ishgard getting a whole shiny new district/housing stuff.

Maybe overhaul then? Cause it's a glaring issue that we have literally no Ala Mhigan furniture or housing items beyond Ananta stuff. And, the absolute state of the Ala Mhigan Quarter.

I don't think we'll ever go about fixing up Garlemald proper within the game's lifespan due to zone issues, but I could see us helping to build up a fringe settlement for the sake of giving the refugees a better place to stay until the city proper is ready to be repopulated some time in the distant future.

Maybe Ala Mhigo will have a chance now that it's not the front line of the war.

I want a home in Ultima Thule. No restoring it please. It's already beautiful

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Maybe Ala Mhigo will have a chance now that it's not the front line of the war.

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Here's hoping, man.
I feel the glimpse we saw in the Ala Mhigo dungeon can be a visually interesting hub or just an instanced area like the menagerie, and it's got untapped potential there. It'd love if every area in Ala Mhigo was as pretty as the Royal Menagerie, but given the lack of community interest and lack of interest from the devs, I believe it'll always be a pipe dream.

Like, how come an area that's been hyped up since ARR end up still like that?

It's hardly comparable but they got 2 Side Quest associated with Ala Mhigo
4.3 A Fortune in Salt
4.5 Take with a Tonze of Salt

Is there any possibility that the Nekropolis in Ultima Thule is probably going to be restored? After unlocking that one dungeon that the storyline ends there kind of led me to believe maybe it’ll be fixed up.

I would like the next Restoration project to take place in Garlemald, even if we don't end up getting a housing district there. I want more reasons to go back to the zone. I was extremely dissapointed to find out that the combat jobs Beast Tribe was going to be set in Thavnair-which holds the honor of being the only zone more unappealing than the wasteland of Ala Mhigo by virtue of being a mishmash of tacky colors that were clearly only balanced around the Final Days weather.

Only if we get to see more of Lyse.

I want to see her development even more.

Instead of Ala Mhigo or Garlemald can we maybe restore something that's worth restoring?

Both are worth restoring.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Is there any possibility that the Nekropolis in Ultima Thule is probably going to be restored? After unlocking that one dungeon that the storyline ends there kind of led me to believe maybe it’ll be fixed up.

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I half expect the 3rd "tribe" to be the various ghosts of Ultima Thule because of that quest/hub.

It's hypothetically possible that the Ala Mhigan restoration is ongoing in the main city that we rushed through during the dungeon. If we ever did get a restoration event I expect it would take place in an instanced zone repurposed from the dungeon.

Plus the weirdness of time here means that all they need to do is make it a level 70 questline (like the Firmament is 60) and it happened immediately after Stormblood all along, even though we didn't experience it until now.

In any case, even without any repair work happening, you have to admit that the Ala Mhigans are in a much better state than the Garleans right now (or the Domans post-Stormblood). Their buildings are mostly intact and they're not in danger of dying from the cold.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Alphinaud and Alisaie say they're going out to go help with Garlemald's restoration in their talk with them at the end of the MSQ... I fully assume we're going to go help them eventually, and if I had to take a wild guess on what kind content it is it'll be Firmament 2: Garlean Boogaloo.

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I wouldn't be surprised of Garlemald restoration's tied to the EW Custom Deliveries their mom's going to be in charge of. "Please help subsidize my darlings' goal of a restored Garlemald. I know we're insanely rich, but all I have on me are these scrips. Go talk to Rowena...sucker.".

I'll be honest, I find Ala Mhigo to be a very boring location. I rather help bring back Garlemald to how it used to look before being ravaged by civil war. I want to see what their technology was capable of.

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Originally Posted by Protantical

Yeah, I understand that. Restoration isn't the right word, but I just related it to Ishgard getting a whole shiny new district/housing stuff.

Maybe overhaul then? Cause it's a glaring issue that we have literally no Ala Mhigan furniture or housing items beyond Ananta stuff. And, the absolute state of the Ala Mhigan Quarter.

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We will get a Doman toilet before we get an Ala Mhigan flag. :(

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Originally Posted by Espon

I'll be honest, I find Ala Mhigo to be a very boring location. I rather help bring back Garlemald to how it used to look before being ravaged by civil war. I want to see what their technology was capable of.

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I understand that bit tho. I just don't think it was ever given a chance to look good. I believe it's an agreed on point the Royal Menagerie is beautiful. The architecture in the Ala Mhigo dungeon looked super nice, plus the royal menagerie and the actual castle looks great if you ignore the gaudy imperial stuff in it. Hence why I'd love an Ala Mhigan OVERHAUL. Not restoration since it's still intact.

I'm not AGAINST a Garlean Restoration, but Ala Mhigo needs a much needed facelift first. It came first, it should get fixed first.

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

I honestly expect Garlemald or Kholusia restoration before we get Ala Mhigo. Stormblood already has a housing district, ShB and EW don't... and neither did HW before Empyrium.

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Not only that but we already did Doman Reconstruction, albeit it was a different form of what Ishgard restauration was the concept is the same.

I am honestly expecting Garlemald Restoration given how destructed it is and the new alliance we have with the Garleans, in fact I expected it to start in the next patch since

it appears the Twins are set to help the garleans and we don't know exactly what the other scions plan to do yet.

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Originally Posted by Protantical

I understand that bit tho. I just don't think it was ever given a chance to look good. I believe it's an agreed on point the Royal Menagerie is beautiful. The architecture in the Ala Mhigo dungeon looked super nice, plus the royal menagerie and the actual castle looks great if you ignore the gaudy imperial stuff in it. Hence why I'd love an Ala Mhigan OVERHAUL. Not restoration since it's still intact.

I'm not AGAINST a Garlean Restoration, but Ala Mhigo needs a much needed facelift first. It came first, it should get fixed first.

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I understand how you feel, I love Ala Mhigo but honestly I feel it would be too much on the fly, like we just got garlemald as map, it's history and it still something that is fresh on our minds while ala mhigo....was 2 expacs before, roughly 5 years and in the mean time we had Doman restoration, our whole adveture on the First, ishgard restoration which had a storyline based on, garlean war and finally the whole planet exodus thing. there just a whole lot going on if they just did anything ala mhigan related I would rather have an entire patch dedicated about it but sadly, I think the 6.1 patch will be focused on Garlemald at least the part where it doesnt focus on the whole Twelve alliance thing.

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Originally Posted by AmpelioB

I understand you feels, I love Ala Mhigo but honestly I feel it would be too much on the fly, like we just got garlemald as map, it's history and it still something that is fresh on our minds while ala mhigo....was 2 expacs before, roughly 5 years and in the mean time we had Doman restoration, our whole adveture on the First, ishgard restoration which had a storyline based on, garlean war and finally the whole planet exodus thing. there just a whole lot going on if they just did anything ala mhigan related I would rather have an entire patch dedicated about it but sadly, I think the 6.1 patch will be focused on Garlemald at least the part where it doesnt focus on the whole Twelve alliance thing.

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We also haven't been through Heavensward for even longer, but Ishgard got a restoration anyway. There's plenty you can work with in making an overhaul/restoration that the devs have touched on but never exactly delved into outside of surface level acknowledgements.

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Originally Posted by Protantical

We also haven't been through Heavensward for even longer, but Ishgard got a restoration anyway. There's plenty you can work with in making an overhaul/restoration that the devs have touched on but never exactly delved into outside of surface level acknowledgements.

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But that happened because the player base asked for it. that's clearly not as much as we have.

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Originally Posted by AmpelioB

But that happened because the player base asked for it. that's clearly not as much as we have.

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True! I wish the community and devs cared more about Ala Mhigo. It's got great potential honestly, especially with the crumbs of commentary we got from the EW Healer Quests. It's a damn shame the Mhigan Quarter is so lackluster and rushed. I just want them to give it justice, like they wanted to originally.

I just like these contents... :3

So I hope to hear about something like it. Though I wonder if Island Sanctuary is taking that content concept and running with it (we obviously need to hear more but it could be, who knows for sure... yet).

A wish for the next one though, if it has a community component (which is totally fine and can be cool), might be the community can work together to push the current maximum progress, yet the player themselves will push the content's current status (such that you can experience the content as a group when it's active, or just later at your leisure).

Honestly I think I would be more excited for Garlean type IFFFF it can look like a non-destructed variant of the destroyed city we've seen, it would be quite pretty and unique. I would however probably be excited with just about anything lol. I also feel you might get different potential variants by considering different presentation of beast tribe mechanics (like the fae beast tribe had a whole zone, rather perhaps combine the resources of two tribes and create an even more complex and involved restoration).

Anything of the sort excites me, but I'll also toss out Mognet and Chocobo Paradise as construction spaces too.

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

I honestly expect Garlemald or Kholusia restoration before we get Ala Mhigo. Stormblood already has a housing district, ShB and EW don't... and neither did HW before Empyrium.

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Am I a jerk if I admit that I don't really wanna go back to the first and fix their world up?

Garlemald should be next, IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Mapleine

Am I a jerk if I admit that I don't really wanna go back to the first and fix their world up?

Garlemald should be next, IMHO.

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I have no issue with going back to the First to help out with restoration, but some people have taken that a bit too far and suggested converting Amaurot to housing. It is a MASS GRAVE for crying out loud. It is beyond tasteless to suggest building houses over the graves of others.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

I have no issue with going back to the First to help out with restoration, but some people have taken that a bit too far and suggested converting Amaurot to housing. It is a MASS GRAVE for crying out loud. It is beyond tasteless to suggest building houses over the graves of others.

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I mean for all we know the houses in all of the other zones could be built on burial grounds lmao.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

I mean for all we know the houses in all of the other zones could be built on burial grounds lmao.

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We KNOW that Amaurot is a mass grave.

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Originally Posted by Puksi

We will get a Doman toilet before we get an Ala Mhigan flag. :(

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Sadly, this truth is right on the mark.

I'll say it, i have a completely biased view of Ala Mhigo mainly because it's a people & culture i can relate to. Even if they are not based in Latino culture/ mythos, They are the closest people that look like me i have seen in good while in an mmo's lore or games in general. (Ronka more so, but we'll see if anything ever comes from them, though i'm not holding my breath)

I genuinely got excited when i saw the Ziggurat, the continued plight or the refugees, themes of sacrifice, the wall...

Guess i'll have to wait to see how the treat the "New World" if we ever get there, based off the limited job aspect they did to to Blue Mage, my hopes are not high.

M'naago's Custom Delivery is like an Ala Mhigo restoration. Lore wise, the saltery reopening is probably enough to give them the cash flow they need that they don't need any further help.