All Clown's Wake event 2022- Bright highlighted hair option

Did anyone else notice with the new Halloween/All Clown's Wake event that the clown (Papa Gruff) and his wife (Mama Gruff) both had super bright highlights/new colour tones in their hair that are not available to PC's? I especially noticed it on the lady with the pink hair, the pink/purple tone was super bright and definitely nowhere to be found in character creator.

I hope this is a sign that SE will add some brighter hair colours/highlights/make up colours down the line. I feel like so many of them now are dull (especially the highlights and face paint options).

Did anyone else notice these new hair colours?

References:
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...Mama_Gruff.png
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/m...Papa_Gruff.jpg

Interesting! I looked them up on Garland Tools and they do indeed seem to be using colours from rows beyond what we can access.

By coincidence I made a post asking about this in the Live Letter Q&A thread the other day. We only have access to 24 rows of colours but since the grid reference is presumably stored as a binary number then I assume could be up to 32 rows without changing how much data is stored.

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Originally Posted by Strika23

Did anyone else notice with the new Halloween/All Clown's Wake event that the clown (Papa Gruff) and his wife (Mama Gruff) both had super bright highlights/new colour tones in their hair that are not available to PC's? I especially noticed it on the lady with the pink hair, the pink/purple tone was super bright and definitely nowhere to be found in character creator.

I hope this is a sign that SE will add some brighter hair colours/highlights/make up colours down the line. I feel like so many of them now are dull (especially the highlights and face paint options).

Did anyone else notice these new hair colours?

References:
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...Mama_Gruff.png
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/m...Papa_Gruff.jpg

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I would LOVE for them to add more hair colors/highlight colors to their current selection. They really need to add more tbh

I gave your post a like on the QA, Iscah. I'd really like skin tone selection to be expanded in general.
For instance, for some reason, male Xaela cannot be a green color. Female Xaela and both Male and Female Raen can be a green color. I thought this choice was odd.
I'd also like expanded skin shades for hyur. What we have is good, but more granular selection is always great!

Oh yes please. I do love bright hair and papa gruff's green did indeed make me a bit jealous.

My hope is that they will expand character creation and hair color will have a color wheel instead of the preset colors, so we won't have limitations when choosing hair color!

Sorry, was too busy focusing on that damned earring, wishing I could just mug him and save myself the hassle of Pagos rng.

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Originally Posted by Starshower

My hope is that they will expand character creation and hair color will have a color wheel instead of the preset colors, so we won't have limitations when choosing hair color!

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That's a different level of request, though. That would require rebuilding the system. Adding more rows that have evidence of already existing out of reach is something they may be able to implement within the current system.

The same thought occurred to me, and I hope it's a sign of what's to come eventually. I would love to have bolder hair options. Particularly in the yellow and pink to purple (which all look especially dull to me) areas, but really anything new and bright would be great.

As I wrote in the Q&A thread post I linked earlier, in addition to getting brighter colours I'd also like to see more dark shades. I'm not keen on the jet black hair colour so for a couple of my characters with dark hair I've wanted to go for very dark shades of other colours instead – but the darkest option for most shades really isn't that dark.

Brown is probably the worst off. Even the darkest shades are only medium brown at most. I wanted dark brown-almost-black and had to settle for purple.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

As I wrote in the Q&A thread post I linked earlier, in addition to getting brighter colours I'd also like to see more dark shades. I'm not keen on the jet black hair colour so for a couple of my characters with dark hair I've wanted to go for very dark shades of other colours instead – but the darkest option for most shades really isn't that dark.

Brown is probably the worst off. Even the darkest shades are only medium brown at most. I wanted dark brown-almost-black and had to settle for purple.

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It's funny how the hair color selector gives more or less a fake impression of diversity... half of the rows are actual hues with different shades (columns), but the other half is just the previous row but desaturated.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y...28192%2529.jpg

So in fact we realistically have 13 different colors with saturation variations, which leads to the problem of not having actual browns, or vivid red shades.

And that strikes me odd, because the highlight pallete actually have a different hue for each row it's pretty easy to notice that when you compare left and right. I wish we could use both color tables, or just adding more rows to the right side expanding the spectrum of hues.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

It's funny how the hair color selector gives more or less a fake impression of diversity... half of the rows are actual hues with different shades (columns), but the other half is just the previous row but desaturated.

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I actually use the desaturated colours a fair bit – I think about half my characters.

At a skim through what I've used:
Saturated colours = red, blonde, light brown, dark yellow-green*
Desaturated colours = beige, dark purple, mid purple, pale blue, dark blue, dark green

* might have used desaturated green if it existed but that's the last row which doesn't have one.

Generally it seems the desaturated versions of "warm" colours are too dull but "cool" colours come out nicer?

Anyway, the fact that they've just done a systematic "desaturated version of every row" means that there are a lot of variations of grey from those first few yellow rows, and looking at it properly now I see we really don't have brown at all – just an almost coincidental few at the dark end of orange.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I actually use the desaturated colours a fair bit – I think about half my characters.

At a skim through what I've used:
Saturated colours = red, blonde, light brown, dark yellow-green*
Desaturated colours = dark purple, mid purple, pale blue, dark blue, dark green

* might have used desaturated green if it existed but that's the last row which doesn't have one.

Anyway, the fact that they've just done a systematic "desaturated version of every row" means that there are a lot of variations of grey from those first few yellow rows, and looking at it properly now I see we really don't have brown at all – just an almost coincidental few at the dark end of orange.

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Yeah. However seeing that they can add more colors makes me hopeful at least. The character creation options seem to be held back by technical limitations (hence why they had to copy paste 1 hyur face just for a perma stubble) - I wonder how much they can improve before having to rebuild the whole structure, if that is even feasible to do without messing with bigger things.

Another thing I'm defnitely not satisfied with is the face paint options. The colors there are either too dark or too muted - a bright red lip color only shows in certain lightning. Would be great if they added a third checkbok "Vivid" to the Light and Dark ones, but then... it might be not just something related to the color itself but rather how the lip color/face paint overlays on top of the skin - it would explain why we never get an accurate result with the palette choice.