Well me and a lot of the OCE community are looking forward to Materia launching tonight, I do have one major concern the devs seem to be avoiding, and that's regarding FCs.
I'm a long time player on Tonberry and a leader of a FC that has been around for years, have a M house paid for by myself, and airships and submarines levelled up high, however, If I am to transfer my main character over all that is lost, with no reimbursement and no guarantee of getting a house to even have a workshop.
Getting submarines up to get exclusive mats took me literal years with the amount of RNG involved. I don't want to have to repeat that.
At this point it's exchanging years of work for better ping.
It really needs to be addressed.
Materia DC - Regarding Free Companies.
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01-25-2022, 11:30 AMDetrimontMateria DC - Regarding Free Companies.
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01-25-2022, 11:45 AMTigerlilley
We've been talking about this as well. Not being able to transfer your free company is a huge pain :( We have almost 200m in credits plus a fully decked out workshop that everyone has worked on.
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01-25-2022, 11:45 AMRobynDaBank
How would it be addressed, though? Would you want your FC home shifted to a ward and location the same as before? What about others who have rooms in the house? Would all materials, progress and structures copy over?
I'm not asking you to solve the problem, but it's up to you to decide if work you put into your FC is not as important as less ping. It's after all, starting over. That's how home world transfers work right? Can't take everything along.
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01-25-2022, 11:49 AMDetrimont
There have been talks about FC transferring as far back as HW.
As far as just transferring FCs, I know it's not that simple, but there needs to be some sort of way to at least keep workshop progression, it's a huge time and gil sink that just nulled. -
01-25-2022, 12:49 PMWolwosh
When I switched to Light I actually really enjoyed starting over, and we had everything unlocked and the best subs.
It was a lot of work that we had to re-do, but it was fun just chilling on voice and make some progress every few days.
I think if I had the option to keep everything(which I think should be there, because not everyone likes to start over and will never do all of that again) I would still start over.
Not a 3rd time though xD -
01-25-2022, 12:54 PMShibi
Yes, it's a problem. I will leave my main's FC there empty.
I would rather have a way to transfer it over. Inter-DC transfer if you will... when I buy a FC house on Materia it allows me to shift it from the old NA server into Materia and frees up the old spot then.
It's more like 6 months with good luck and 8 months with bad luck. It taking literal years means something went wrong for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detrimont
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01-25-2022, 12:57 PMConundrum
My friend wants me to move to his server, if I do can I has a free medium house for my personal FC like I have now?
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01-25-2022, 01:01 PMTigerlilleyOP is not asking for a free house. OP is asking to be able to transfer his FC and workshop progression. Please do try reading before making snarky comments. It actually isn't an unreasonable request.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
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01-25-2022, 01:22 PMironbutterfly
This is something we have struggled with too as an FC. Our entire FC is moving as we are all Aus based. We made the choice to move but it hasn't been made easy packing up just a small FC. We stock piled as much stuff we could and I have 2 retainers full of exclusive mats, ship parts and a tonne of fuel.
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01-25-2022, 02:43 PMShibiWith free transfers you might also consider to make a bunch of alts and level them just enough to get retainers. Invite them to your FC, stack them full of stuff you want, including all those ceruleum tanks and stuff off the marketboard, and free transfer them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironbutterfly
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01-25-2022, 03:01 PMDetrimont6-8 months WHEN you get subs at the right rank and exploration node unlocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shibi
I only have a smallish FC. i'm doing 95% of the crafts for this -
01-25-2022, 03:06 PMDetrimontIt's not even a personal FC, we have 40+ members, half of which are permanently active.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
A lot of us aren't transferring because we'll be losing a lot of progress. And gil from the house. which at the time WAS expensive.
I don't want a free house, I want some form of compensation for what we're losing and some form of way to retain the progression. -
01-25-2022, 03:29 PMJojoya
Considering the way workshops are tied to a house and houses are in the ward system, I don't think there's much they could do to address that drawback of transfers between worlds. SE would need to detach workshops from housing and give them a different access point like the affiliated GC headquarters (similar to squadron barracks).
Leveling your FC and gaining credits is not a problem. Getting a house is the more difficult part.
As others have pointed out, you can do some prep to help take some of your acquired assets with you and help get your new FC established faster. Decommission airships/subs and place the parts in inventory along with any workshop schematic materials you have so you will be able to start unlocking schematics as soon as you have your new FC house and workshop. Spend the company credits on ceruleum tanks, dive credits, flight credits, Voidrake and Althyk Lavender seeds, etc. Fill any leftover inventory space (don't forget your retainers and chocobo saddlebag) with useful items not easily farmed (your new MBs are going to be very empty for a while). Don't forget to include stacks of cheap ShB end game crafting materials to make gear to turn in for Expert Deliveries to help get your initial FC ranks very quick.
Think newly created characters are not eligible for world transfer so that may not work. Can't seem to pull up the support article on Lodestone to confirm due to maintenance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shibi
This honestly doesn't make sense. FC progress means so little when it's so easily regained outside of the workshop fleet. That is such a tiny portion of overall game play it shouldn't be a deterrent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detrimont
I can understand the concern over not getting compensated for the FC house purchase price but it shouldn't be difficult for a FC with a small but active membership to accumulate enough in the couple of months before housing opens if transferring members don't already have the needed gil. -
01-25-2022, 03:37 PMHasrat
Kinda highly doubt getting a new house is going to be an issue. You're starting on an entirely fresh data center for a region that has, to this point, sufficed being scattered across multiple already-populated servers, with an entire new housing district coming as well.
You're more likely going to be seeing entire empty wards for a long while, rather than worrying about there not being an available plot when you go for one. -
01-25-2022, 06:27 PMShibiI did it solo with 100% of the gathering and crafts. It's not literal years as you claim. It's around 8 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detrimont
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01-25-2022, 09:32 PMDetrimontThen you had insanely good rng, if took me 4 months to even get a single piece of cocobolo lumber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shibi
Also im not talking just talking about the crafts. It's unlocking nodes too