Does the lottery system apply to Oceania servers when housing comes out?

Has there been any updates on housing changes?
I imagine that Ishgard will have lotto , but what about the other areas on OCE will the lotto system be in place when OCE housing opens?

It suppose to apply on all housing district once the 6.1 patch hit

Oh ok so no walking up to a fresh OCE plot and buying it, and thats for all districts not just Ishgard :(
So could take a long time to get a house on OCE even if its not very populated.

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Originally Posted by Markfresh

Oh ok so no walking up to a fresh OCE plot and buying it, and thats for all districts not just Ishgard :(
So could take a long time to get a house on OCE even if its not very populated.

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Unknown. Yoshi P did say they were thinking of allowing certain plots to be first to come/serve, but more info was needed before 6.1 arrives. Guess we have to wait for a live letter.

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Originally Posted by Markfresh

Has there been any updates on housing changes?
I imagine that Ishgard will have lotto , but what about the other areas on OCE will the lotto system be in place when OCE housing opens?

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This lottery will cause so much controversy.

More likely than not, housing on Materia will follow the same structure as on the other DCs. I'm guessing this based on mention of financial compensation given to players for their houses when they transfer.

Yeh its such as hard decision whether to move, a lot of people like myself are considering not moving as we already have a house, which will affect the population on OCE i think, as people dont want to be homeless,
and giving me some Gil back when moving it not much of a incentive to move as its a few month wait to even try to get a house and even then its not guaranteed.

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Originally Posted by NishaSetsuya

It suppose to apply on all housing district once the 6.1 patch hit

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False.

Yoshida explained that they'll implement First Come-First Served and Lottery on a district-by-district basis. Meaning they can go with either system anywhere depending on a case-by-case basis for a ward.

Please don't spread misinformation.

If the release is similar to the last added world/data center deal, more then likely housing there will straight up be locked out until an even later date. Devs tend to give new worlds a patch or so to fill in with players before opening up the lots, still have no idea about lotto system though even with current worlds, no official info on what is getting what yet.

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Originally Posted by Lunalepsy

This lottery will cause so much controversy.

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yep
1. not enough free wards for people to try their hand at the lottery every week
2. some plots only get 10-20 bidders, making them much easier to get, others, 200.
3. people signing for auction at the last 60 seconds of a lottery draw on a plot htat only had 7 people, bumping it to 100
4. some people will realistically play for 70 years entering lottery every week before they get a house

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

4. some people will realistically play for 70 years entering lottery every week before they get a house

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Materia is a touch different for a few months.

But Yes! some will, if they are only ever going to enter the draw for an LB11. Others, with OCE's newer servers, who choose to enter on Goblet52 might have a better chance. To start, there will be less people.

But in the end, maybe 6 or 12 months, absolutely correct. In every housing thread where people thought of lottery, there were so many good reasons against it. Odds could well be akin to winning the Jumbo Cactpot - one in ten thousand - (which I only ever won once in so many years of playing)

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

yep
1. not enough free wards for people to try their hand at the lottery every week
2. some plots only get 10-20 bidders, making them much easier to get, others, 200.
3. people signing for auction at the last 60 seconds of a lottery draw on a plot htat only had 7 people, bumping it to 100
4. some people will realistically play for 70 years entering lottery every week before they get a house

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points 1-3:

And before you had to hope you were able to load in and not disconnect on housing day AND get to the plot you wanted for even a chance or just happen to be around and clicking right when the timer expired. An equal chance to get a house now instead of insane requirements. I'd say that's an improvement.

4. Realistically nobody will be clicking anything in FFXIV 70 years from now. Video games in totality have been around for less time let alone one title. You don't want someone to interpret this literally? Don't use "realistically" to say it.

Thanks for all the replies and insight, alot of food for thought there :P

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

...4. Realistically nobody will be clicking anything in FFXIV 70 years from now....

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Ye of little faith! We could be up to patch 42.0 in 69 years or so!

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Ye of little faith! We could be up to patch 42.0 in 69 years or so!

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Look.. I would love to be fiddling around in Eorzea in the nursing home with y'all.. or in my robot body or whatever happens in 70 years (realistically I'll be dead, so save those "I told you so's" if it does happen) . I'm just realistically planning that in maybe 5-10 years this game is donezos simply because the tech is going to be so far past it.

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

yep
1. not enough free wards for people to try their hand at the lottery every week

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Not enough free plots in the present system for people to try their luck at either - and it is luck, I'll get to that.

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2. some plots only get 10-20 bidders, making them much easier to get, others, 200.

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More people are clicking banners at better plots in the present system, also reducing your luck.

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3. people signing for auction at the last 60 seconds of a lottery draw on a plot htat only had 7 people, bumping it to 100

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Purely psychological. It makes zero net difference if 7 people sign up early and 93 sign up in the last minute versus 100 signing up evenly distributed. The only difference is your perception. I stood at plots for hours clicking only to have some rando walk up and buy it out from me too, that objectively is far worse.

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4. some people will realistically play for 70 years entering lottery every week before they get a house

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The only solution to this is to keep housing the way it is and provide for instanced housing, which we may functionally get with the island. We don't know yet. The problem is people want to get houses, but they also want their house to matter and receive visitors/passerbys/etc. So it's a catch-22 there's no simple solution for.

But the main thing is... nothing you really listed is a detriment to the lottery system that does not already exist, principally in worse fashion, in the existing system. The only difference is people don't have to sit and spam click placards for hours. And then, it boils down to having the luck for the timer to come up when you're there, and for you to be the first person to buy it during the tick it becomes available. And for no one to swoop in and relocate while you are standing there, thus resetting the entire timer. Let's be crystal clear - the. existing. system. is. still. luck. driven. The notions that "if I click long enough, I'll get a house..." or "if I'm just dedicated enough..." are just really not, for the most part, true.

The lottery system is preferable to the current system. Is there a system preferable to lottery (besides instanced)? Could be, but no one's come up with one yet. Anything people throw out there is always designed to favor their chances. Crafters and Gatherers always point to things like "I placed in skybuilders, I should get priority in Ishgard." Savage content players say "things should drop in savage that give you a leg up."

I posit that no one is ever going to be happy with any system without that being at the expense of other people without the decision as to who gets it being left to dumb, random chance. The best we can hope for is everyone to begrudgingly say "meh, I guess at the end of the day.. it's at least fair and I had a shot."

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

False.

Yoshida explained that they'll implement First Come-First Served and Lottery on a district-by-district basis. Meaning they can go with either system anywhere depending on a case-by-case basis for a ward.

Please don't spread misinformation.

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He actually said in the last Live Letter before Endwalker release that they were considering using all lottery but they wanted player feedback on whether some wards should be first come, first serve.

Unless you have a direct quote regarding housing made since then, it's hard to say what they've decided.

There's also the possibility that new wards will be first come, first serve on release (so they fill quickly) with all resales via lottery after that.