Looking for a lower level mob that will put a debuff on me.

This is to determine if they're properly showing on my screen. Anything out there that I can let beat on my for a while without concern?

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

This is to determine if they're properly showing on my screen. Anything out there that I can let beat on my for a while without concern?

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The flying plants in the Dravianian Hinterlands near the Forelands entrance gives a vul up debuff might be a good one for what you are after

go find a morbol in mor dhona

i usually go with morbols i outlevel by at least 15 levels

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

i usually go with morbols i outlevel by at least 15 levels

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Thanks, I just found one in unrestricted mode Sastasha,1where I could pick up a 1 minute poison debuff.

(This was for Smileton, where I could never find where the red/blue debuff was supposed to appear for the head boss. Now I know where to look.)

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Thanks, I just found one in an early dungeon in unrestricted mode,with 1 minute poison debuff.

(This was for Smileton, where I could never find where the red/blue debuff was supposed to appear for the head boss. Now I know where to look.)

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I've noticed this being a problem in the new dungeons.
Normally, the cleansable debuffs are supposed to move to the front of the buff line and is indicated with a line over it to indicate it's a debuff. They are not doing that now in the new dungeons. I kept missing Necrosis in Dead Ends because of this gross or blatant oversight, or terrible design change. I had to end up showing up to 10 buffs on characters (5 is default). The lower-level things are appropriately showing the debuffs. The new places are not, even after resetting the UI.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

Normally, the cleansable debuffs are supposed to move to the front of the buff line and is indicated with a line over it to indicate it's a debuff.

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That's not what the line indicates. The line indicates that it may be cleansed via Esuna. Buff vs. Debuff is indicated by whether the point of the icon is pointed upward (buff) or downward (debuff)

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

That's not what the line indicates. The line indicates that it may be cleansed via Esuna. Buff vs. Debuff is indicated by whether the point of the icon is pointed upward (buff) or downward (debuff)

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I don't really understand what you missed, or I missed about what you quoted of mine. I said cleansable. Yet, Necrosis isn't appearing that way and is cleansable with Esuna, yet has no line to indicate that. That's the only way to get rid of it, or the player dies.

And, I am using 'debuff' as a general negative term related to what is on a character.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

Yet, Necrosis isn't appearing that way and is cleansable with Esuna, yet has no line to indicate that. That's the only way to get rid of it, or the player dies.

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https://imgur.com/guSCMu3.png

https://imgur.com/O6TMZWb.png

it does have a line to indicate it's cleansable with esuna. you're missing it bc its a 10 second debuff. it also does go in front of buffs on the party list.

morbol is your friend. just look for one.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

(This was for Smileton, where I could never find where the red/blue debuff was supposed to appear for the head boss. Now I know where to look.)

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You can separate the debuff bar from the rest of the status effects and put them right in the middle of your screen next to your character at 200% size. Makes it a lot harder to miss debuffs when they're right next to your character model.
https://i.imgur.com/npx3Or3.png

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Originally Posted by Zomkei

https://imgur.com/guSCMu3.png

https://imgur.com/O6TMZWb.png

it does have a line to indicate it's cleansable with esuna. you're missing it bc its a 10 second debuff. it also does go in front of buffs on the party list.

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Liked for the good demonstration. Also you took a vuln! Tank privilege lol.

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Originally Posted by Floortank

Liked for the good demonstration. Also you took a vuln! Tank privilege lol.

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lol, in order to get the debuff you need to stand in the bad, which also includes a vuln stack :(

For any future testing needs, the lowest level morbols you can find are probably in Central Shroud in the area leading to Haukke Manor and somewhere in the South Shroud.

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Originally Posted by gumas

morbol is your friend. just look for one.

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Went out and tried one.. So many debuffs.
Their breath is as nasty as their appearance :)

The hard part is aggroing them without killing them. I managed to get it done with Feint at max melee range, followed immediately with ESC to avoid autoattacking it.

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Originally Posted by gumas

morbol is your friend. just look for one.

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https://media1.giphy.com/media/Yavo0SXhZYhSo/200.gif

Lag can cause icons to delay in appearing.

Side note: Esuna will remove the most recently applied debuff. In other words, from the last to earliest.

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Originally Posted by Zomkei

https://imgur.com/guSCMu3.png

https://imgur.com/O6TMZWb.png

it does have a line to indicate it's cleansable with esuna. you're missing it bc its a 10 second debuff. it also does go in front of buffs on the party list.

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And, this is the very thing I am not experiencing since the expansion for me. The icon is showing in the middle or near the end of the buff line next to someone. I'm glad that it works for most people, but what I am saying, is it's not doing this for me, even after resetting the UI.

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

Lag can cause icons to delay in appearing.

Side note: Esuna will remove the most recently applied debuff. In other words, from the last to earliest.

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This may be the issue for me, but I don't notice if this is the situation as I am not noticing any lag at the time. I'm usually too busy looking for someone with Necrosis, because there's always one...

This sounds like a weird request.

Go to where Haukke Manor is, there's a bunch of Morbols that can bad-breath you and you can see how a big bar of debuffs look.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

I don't really understand what you missed, or I missed about what you quoted of mine. I said cleansable. Yet, Necrosis isn't appearing that way and is cleansable with Esuna, yet has no line to indicate that. That's the only way to get rid of it, or the player dies.

And, I am using 'debuff' as a general negative term related to what is on a character.

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It’s a semantics misunderstanding.
You said:

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

I've noticed this being a problem in the new dungeons.
Normally, the cleansable debuffs are supposed to move to the front of the buff line and is indicated with a line over it to indicate it's a debuff.

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The end of your sentence is easy to misunderstand despite what you wrote earlier. Basically it reads as the line itself denotes a debuff (“all debuffs have lines”) when it is actually indicating it can be esuna’d. Especially when there are debuffs with no line at all.

I think you both know what’s up, just your sentence there wasn’t clear. All good!

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Thanks, I just found one in unrestricted mode Sastasha,1where I could pick up a 1 minute poison debuff.

(This was for Smileton, where I could never find where the red/blue debuff was supposed to appear for the head boss. Now I know where to look.)

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First icon in your buff/debuff bar next to your name in the party window will show it too, as well as how many stacks of it you've got.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

I don't really understand what you missed, or I missed about what you quoted of mine. I said cleansable. Yet, Necrosis isn't appearing that way and is cleansable with Esuna, yet has no line to indicate that. That's the only way to get rid of it, or the player dies.

And, I am using 'debuff' as a general negative term related to what is on a character.

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I missed nothing, this is what you wrote:

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and is indicated with a line over it to indicate it's a debuff.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

And, this is the very thing I am not experiencing since the expansion for me.

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I'll back you up cause it's also not showing up at the front for me either. Or at least it wasn't the last time I got that dungeon which has been at least a couple of weeks so maybe they fixed it with the last patch.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by hobostew

I'll back you up cause it's also not showing up at the front for me either. Or at least it wasn't the last time I got that dungeon which has been at least a couple of weeks so maybe they fixed it with the last patch.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Well at least someone can confirm I'm not losing my mind. ;) I think the lag issue is the culprit with this. I didn't think about lag affecting the icons on a player, but it does make total sense.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

It’s a semantics misunderstanding.
You said:



The end of your sentence is easy to misunderstand despite what you wrote earlier. Basically it reads as the line itself denotes a debuff (“all debuffs have lines”) when it is actually indicating it can be esuna’d. Especially when there are debuffs with no line at all.

I think you both know what’s up, just your sentence there wasn’t clear. All good!

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Ah ha, I see now.

*Party member gets hit by 'Bad Breath'*
*Esuna once, pray it gets rid of the slow*
*Regen, look away*