Open letter, Dear Mr Naoki Yoshida

I'm sorry if this is wrong place to ask but I just want my voice and so many players be heard
every time this topic is brought , we get shutdown~
I'm still sad, in 2022 , it's really hard , after 10 years for we , Wol from SEA , legally cannot play this game? we still need to break tos, fake our address just to play and pay the game that we love?

are we not exist ?we are not asking for DC /servers , can we at least get to register and put our address , why is Singapore is officially listed , while Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines and more is not officially listed

Singapore is not NA , Brunei Darussalam is not EU , we are from SEA , and in 2022 all we wanted is to be able to play without worrying we break ToS , or cannot get official support if we submit a ticket~

if there is a contest , we can get disqualified even if we won~ we can't play from PS or Steam because legally not supported ~ ~ can we not get error when making payments because legally we are not in the list~without 3rd party stuff

we pay our sub, can we just get our country listed? can ask just to be acknowledged as players . are we not part of the Wol family ?

please MR Naoki Yoshida~ please SQEX !

please ~ JUST Acknowledged we exist ~please address this in live letter or something~ is there nothing that we can do?

some of us is WoL from 1.0 , his/her name in the credits ~ we all love this game, this game change our live, even safe some of us~

can we get our Answer , we are not demanding, we wanna ask is there no hope for us?

p.s sorry for my bad english ~

I think this is why they made that recent news about confirming our account informations. It's been you SEA players trying to play the whole time? o_O

I believe this has a lot to do with lack of a localization team.

Your English is not bad either.

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Originally Posted by TheLordDawnbringer

I'm sorry if this is wrong place to ask but I just want my voice and so many players be heard
every time this topic is brought , we get shutdown~
I'm still sad, in 2022 , it's really hard , after 10 years for we , Wol from SEA , legally cannot play this game? we still need to break tos, fake our address just to play and pay the game that we love?

are we not exist ?we are not asking for DC /servers , can we at least get to register and put our address , why is Singapore is officially listed , while Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines and more is not officially listed

Singapore is not NA , Brunei Darussalam is not EU , we are from SEA , and in 2022 all we wanted is to be able to play without worrying we break ToS , or cannot get official support if we submit a ticket~

if there is a contest , we can get disqualified even if we won~ we can't play from PS or Steam because legally not supported ~ ~ can we not get error when making payments because legally we are not in the list~without 3rd party stuff

we pay our sub, can we just get our country listed? can ask just to be acknowledged as players . are we not part of the Wol family ?

please MR Naoki Yoshida~ please SQEX !

Wan Hazmer is a Malaysian ex game designer from SQEX , even he cannot register his home address ~

please ~ JUST Acknowledged we exist ~please address this in live letter or something~ is there nothing that we can do?

some of us is WoL from 1.0 , his/her name in the credits ~ we all love this game, this game change our live, even safe some of us~

can we get our Answer , we are not demanding, we wanna ask is there no hope for us?

p.s sorry for my bad english ~

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OMG! I'm so sorry :(
Don't worry! Yoshi-P is gonna take care of you now!

This probably isn't SE's fault. You're not allowed to just sell anything you want anywhere you want. I'm sure SE wold love to have a worldwide store where anyone in the world could just buy the game and play, but it's not that simple. Many countries have specific rules or licensing issues that prevent, or at least make it cost prohibitive to run the game there. Places like China and Korea have enough players to make dedicated servers worth the investment, but that's probably not true for most other places that can't use the 'global' (JP/NA/EU) server sets.

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Originally Posted by Lunalepsy

OMG! I'm so sorry :(
Don't worry! Yoshi-P is gonna take care of you now!

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You mean by banning them, right? They've explicitly come out and stated that they're breaking ToS on an offical forum.

Joking aside, I doubt Yoshi-P can do anything about it. He's a game developer on a single game within the company. He's not the one at the top making those decisions. As Brightamethyst stated; there's probably a lot of legal issues that go into this.

Not to mention, I'm pretty sure they don't read these forums. This is primarily a place for the players to talk and have discussions with other players. This isn't a direct line to the developers, much less Yoshi-P himself.

Ps. I get that you're trying to be supportive, but you shouldn't give them false hope. It's cruel to make them think that their hopes will be fulfilled, when in reality they very likely won't. It's better to be honest with people than to try to save their feelings.

Companies don't turn away customers for trivial reasons.

As Brightamethyst said, likely the problem is your local government and not SE. Some countries have extremely restrictive laws regarding foreign business and/or game content.

It's up to the residents of your country to encourage your legislators to change the laws that obstruct foreign countries from doing business there.

Dude, don’t use wan hazmer as a tool for this changes, he didnt bother about register address.

*don’t put him in awkward position, he is busy enough with his own company.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Companies don't turn away customers for trivial reasons.

As Brightamethyst said, likely the problem is your local government and not SE. Some countries have extremely restrictive laws regarding foreign business and/or game content.

It's up to the residents of your country to encourage your legislators to change the laws that obstruct foreign countries from doing business there.

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nah, my country and SE has done business , no FF games got ban or censored, sqex has done a couple event here in malaysia , literally like 90% of games can be play and purchase here~ we even can register and get support from blizzard , cause our country is listed.

WoW, SWTOR, New World & even BDO wont allow you to register your acct as SEA country.. But guess what? all those MMO and more allow you to register and play as SEA player is listed ~

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Dude, don’t use wan hazmer as a tool for this changes, he didnt bother about register address.

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sorry, deleted , cause I miss translate, I try to give example , like if someone like him from malaysia try to register, he can put his address cause malaysia is not supported~
even if he is ex sqex staff~

Because of language, localisation, weird copyright laws, and weird ratings laws, and commercial reasons, media of all types is normally regionally split.

When I worked for Disney we divided the world up into regional distributors. Each distributor was given a group of countries that they took complete responsibility for. They set the release dates locally, they even decided if they wanted to take up the show.

I'd say - as long as the game isn't "Tidak Diluluskan Untuk Tayangan" - that this might be a similar situation. If this is the case, then Malaysia has been given to another country, and that country is not interested in allowing/supporting/localising the game. There are two closed regions I know of, Korea which is distributed by the company Actoz Soft CO., LTD. and 盛大 (SDO) in China.

Further backing up this being a distribution contract is the recent clearup of addresses. To me that smells like a distributor is tugging on their contract - maybe in reainess for FFXVI or some other property from SE.

As much as free trade world wide would be good for consumers, commerical contracts like this, especially when they might be very old and have catch-alls on future property in them are incredibly difficult to change. Changes to remove a country from one distributor and give to to another can cost many, many millions of USD.

Australia, for example, is assigned to SE's European operations, however we do have our own online store with nothing at all on it. We will get our own DC, but we will be part of Europe forever, which is maybe why we are in Eurovision too.

I doubt Yoshi-P has much sway in this, this is likely far bigger than him and going to fall into the CEO of SE.

Hopefully they will consider to add the SEA country into legal list.

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

I think this is why they made that recent news about confirming our account informations. It's been you SEA players trying to play the whole time? o_O

I believe this has a lot to do with lack of a localization team.

Your English is not bad either.

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No, it is because many players from China was buying the personal information from Japan illegally.
And they are even trading with real money too.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Because of language, localisation, weird copyright laws, and weird ratings laws, and commercial reasons, media of all types is normally regionally split.

When I worked for Disney we divided the world up into regional distributors. Each distributor was given a group of countries that they took complete responsibility for. They set the release dates locally, they even decided if they wanted to take up the show.

I'd say - as long as the game isn't "Tidak Diluluskan Untuk Tayangan" - that this might be a similar situation. If this is the case, then Malaysia has been given to another country, and that country is not interested in allowing/supporting/localising the game. There are two closed regions I know of, Korea which is distributed by the company Actoz Soft CO., LTD. and 盛大 (SDO) in China.

Further backing up this being a distribution contract is the recent clearup of addresses. To me that smells like a distributor is tugging on their contract - maybe in reainess for FFXVI or some other property from SE.

As much as free trade world wide would be good for consumers, commerical contracts like this, especially when they might be very old and have catch-alls on future property in them are incredibly difficult to change. Changes to remove a country from one distributor and give to to another can cost many, many millions of USD.

Australia, for example, is assigned to SE's European operations, however we do have our own online store with nothing at all on it. We will get our own DC, but we will be part of Europe forever, which is maybe why we are in Eurovision too.

I doubt Yoshi-P has much sway in this, this is likely far bigger than him and going to fall into the CEO of SE.

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No, your argument are invalid... Malaysia has many legally authorised online games digital distributer like Steam, Origins, Battle.net (World of Warcraft), AppStore and PSStore(other ff games), even mobile games like MobileLegends set up their server here.. i dont think they will have any issue on selling MMO games for licensing or such things.. Korean developer like MMO Terra Rising easily available on Malaysia Steam for download, World of Warcraft & ragnarok online are available in Malaysia since 20 years ago (thats time i was in high school, our internet still in dial up).. FF14 are available on Steam they just decided to region lock it.. it is not Malaysia Issue its SE issue... currently I can buy almost any games big AAA or independent developer on steam, or any games from the rest of the distributers, i dont think Malaysia has strict rating law on Video Games, if thats the case (strict laws on Video Games) i dont think i can even play Dota2, or WoW or Ragnarok Online many years ago.. your comment are just BS.. for a company aas big as blizzard and EA, its not a reason & not fair to region lock Malaysia and punish Malaysian trying play their game..

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

This probably isn't SE's fault. You're not allowed to just sell anything you want anywhere you want. I'm sure SE wold love to have a worldwide store where anyone in the world could just buy the game and play, but it's not that simple. Many countries have specific rules or licensing issues that prevent, or at least make it cost prohibitive to run the game there. Places like China and Korea have enough players to make dedicated servers worth the investment, but that's probably not true for most other places that can't use the 'global' (JP/NA/EU) server sets.

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No, your argument are invalid... Malaysia has many legally authorised online games digital distributer like Steam, Origins, Battle.net (World of Warcraft), AppStore and PSStore(other ff games), even mobile games like MobileLegends set up their server here.. i dont think they will have any issue on selling MMO games for licensing or such things.. Korean developer like MMO Terra Rising easily available on Malaysia Steam for download, World of Warcraft & ragnarok online are available in Malaysia since 20 years ago (thats time i was in high school, our internet still in dial up).. FF14 are available on Steam they just decided to region lock it.. it is not Malaysia Issue its SE issue... currently I can buy almost any games big AAA or independent developer on steam, or any games from the rest of the distributers, i dont think Malaysia has strict rating law on Video Games, if thats the case (strict laws on Video Games) i dont think i can even play Dota2, or WoW or Ragnarok Online many years ago.. your comment are just BS.. for a company aas big as blizzard and EA, its not a reason & not fair to region lock Malaysia and punish Malaysian trying play their game..

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Companies don't turn away customers for trivial reasons.

As Brightamethyst said, likely the problem is your local government and not SE. Some countries have extremely restrictive laws regarding foreign business and/or game content.

It's up to the residents of your country to encourage your legislators to change the laws that obstruct foreign countries from doing business there.

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No, your argument are invalid... Malaysia has many legally authorised online games digital distributer like Steam, Origins, Battle.net (World of Warcraft), AppStore and PSStore(other ff games), even mobile games like MobileLegends set up their server here.. i dont think they will have any issue on selling MMO games for licensing or such things.. Korean developer like MMO Terra Rising easily available on Malaysia Steam for download, World of Warcraft & ragnarok online are available in Malaysia since 20 years ago (thats time i was in high school, our internet still in dial up).. FF14 are available on Steam they just decided to region lock it.. it is not Malaysia Issue its SE issue... currently I can buy almost any games big AAA or independent developer on steam, or any games from the rest of the distributers, i dont think Malaysia has strict rating law on Video Games, if thats the case (strict laws on Video Games) i dont think i can even play Dota2, or WoW or Ragnarok Online many years ago.. your comment are just BS.. for a company aas big as blizzard and EA, its not a reason & not fair to region lock Malaysia and punish Malaysian trying play their game..

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Originally Posted by SilvannaLesly

No, your argument are invalid... Malaysia has many legally authorised online games digital distributer like Steam, Origins, Battle.net (World of Warcraft), AppStore and PSStore(other ff games), even mobile games like MobileLegends set up their server here.

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It's not invalid at all.

If SE sold the rights to the franchise for Malaysia to a company who doesn't want to release it to the market for whatever reason... that's it. No FF franchise in Malaysia. This is contractual stuff between SE and whoever owns the distribution rights for the country. The very fact it's region locked on Steam when you can buy other games *strongly* suggests this is the case. Some company somewhere bought the distribution rights for Malaysia (and other SEA companies) and has decided to skip Malaysia, for whatever reason.

You saying it's invalid doesn't change international contract law - if this is the reason for the no-sale rules.

Doesn't matter a flying toss who else is in this market selling games. Also doesn't matter if other - say Korean, USA, or Uzbekistan game companies - are able to contractually sell their games into Malaysia, if SE sold the distribution rights to WHOMEVER CO LTD then they hold the country distribution rights and can decide to skip Malaysia for any reason they like, if the contract allows.

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Originally Posted by Lunalepsy

OMG! I'm so sorry :(
Don't worry! Yoshi-P is gonna take care of you now!

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They are not japanese. Yoshi P don't care.

Honestly.. they SE can make billions more by just removing the region lock... Malaysia’s 20.1 million gamers spent an impressive $673 million on games on 2020.. let alone the whole SEA region...
Opening up a new DC on SEA make sense..

Refer statistics and survey here :

https://newzoo.com/insights/articles...kKYHsBmu45ESF4

https://allcorrectgames.com/insights...CE9mjOS3T95Pbo

https://mdec.my/wp-content/uploads/M...4oBzYRB6NnPlcE

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Originally Posted by Shibi

It's not invalid at all.

If SE sold the rights to the franchise for Malaysia to a company who doesn't want to release it to the market for whatever reason... that's it. No FF franchise in Malaysia. This is contractual stuff between SE and whoever owns the distribution rights for the country. The very fact it's region locked on Steam when you can buy other games *strongly* suggests this is the case. Some company somewhere bought the distribution rights for Malaysia (and other SEA companies) and has decided to skip Malaysia, for whatever reason.

You saying it's invalid doesn't change international contract law - if this is the reason for the no-sale rules.

Doesn't matter a flying toss who else is in this market selling games. Also doesn't matter if other - say Korean, USA, or Uzbekistan game companies - are able to contractually sell their games into Malaysia, if SE sold the distribution rights to WHOMEVER CO LTD then they hold the country distribution rights and can decide to skip Malaysia for any reason they like, if the contract allows.

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So tell me why i can buy other SE franchise on steam, google play and PS Store.. like FF15, FF7 Remake (PSStore), FF10 on steam, classic FF7 and ff9 on PlayStore/AppleStore.. or even raise of tomb raider.. or even Neir.. why only ff14 that they lock...

Malaysia’s 20.1 million gamers spent an impressive $673 million on games on 2020.. let alone the whole SEA region...
Opening up a new DC on SEA make sense..

Refer statistics and survey here :

https://newzoo.com/insights/articles...kKYHsBmu45ESF4

https://allcorrectgames.com/insights...CE9mjOS3T95Pbo

https://mdec.my/wp-content/uploads/M...4oBzYRB6NnPlcE

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Originally Posted by SilvannaLesly

So tell me why i can buy other SE franchise on steam, google play and PS Store.. like FF15, FF7 Remake (PSStore), FF10 on steam, classic FF7 and ff9 on PlayStore/AppleStore.. or even raise of tomb raider.. or even Neir.. why only ff14 that they lock...

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Because this is either:-
* a property under distribution contract.
* or, one that is just too difficult for SE Legal to get past Malaysia's laws
* or, they have other future plans
* or, they just don't like Malaysia
* or, it's not worth the money to localise
* or, as FFXIV is an MMO and none of the others are
* or, something else
* or, none of these and it's something I haven't thought of

I believe it's contractual. This doesn't make the premise invalid no matter how much you dislike my reasoning.

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Malaysia’s 20.1 million gamers spent an impressive $673 million on games on 2020.. let alone the whole SEA region...

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Australia's gamers spent $3.4 billion in 2020 (total population 25 million),
New Zealand's Gamers spent $324 million in 2020 (total population 4.8 million),
USA's gamers spent $60.4 billion (total population 334 million),
Japan's gamers spent $20.7 billion (total population 126 million).

It's meaningless and a red herring to the why of it.

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Opening up a new DC on SEA make sense..

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There is one opening in 10 days for the Oceanic region, of which large chunks of South East Asia are part of. There are also plans for needed server enhancements for NA, EU and JA, that's taking it through to 2023 I'd say. Opening another one in SEA, say in Singapore - or in LATAM, say in Brazil - comes down to specific property earnings, number of players and contracts with existing distributors.

Honestly, I hope that you can buy the game legally soon, but for now, you likely need to direct your questions to the SE CEO, not Yoshi-P. As I really do think it's going to be contractual or something else way outside development.

If you don't like what I think, sorry.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Because this is either:-
* a property under distribution contract.
* or, one that is just too difficult for SE Legal to get past Malaysia's laws
* or, they have other future plans
* or, they just don't like Malaysia
* or, it's not worth the money to localise
* or, as FFXIV is an MMO and none of the others are
* or, something else
* or, none of these and it's something I haven't thought of

I believe it's contractual. This doesn't make the premise invalid no matter how much you dislike my reasoning.



Australia's gamers spent $3.4 billion in 2020 (total population 25 million),
New Zealand's Gamers spent $324 million in 2020 (total population 4.8 million),
USA's gamers spent $60.4 billion (total population 334 million),
Japan's gamers spent $20.7 billion (total population 126 million).

It's meaningless and a red herring to the why of it.



There is one opening in 10 days for the Oceanic region, of which large chunks of South East Asia are part of. There are also plans for needed server enhancements for NA, EU and JA, that's taking it through to 2023 I'd say. Opening another one in SEA, say in Singapore - or in LATAM, say in Brazil - comes down to specific property earnings, number of players and contracts with existing distributors.

Honestly, I hope that you can buy the game legally soon, but for now, you likely need to direct your questions to the SE CEO, not Yoshi-P. As I really do think it's going to be contractual or something else way outside development.

If you don't like what I think, sorry.

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Ic ic..
It just sad man.. my parents bought me ps1 just for me to play the original FF7 when i was a kid, then FF8, FF9, subsequently ff10... I'm in love with the series ever since i play FF7 in my cousins house when i was a kid, now that I'm an adult.. i bought my self PS3 and PS4 and a PC just to play this FF series FF12, FF13, FF14 and FF15.. even replay the old ff9 classic (my favourite) on my android device.. love this game man.. I hope that I'm not banned from breaching TOC just because Malaysia address are not recognised (the drop down country list does not even listed Malaysia upon registration).. been playing this ff14 game for years without an issue only now its an issue...

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Because this is either:-
* a property under distribution contract.
* or, one that is just too difficult for SE Legal to get past Malaysia's laws
* or, they have other future plans
* or, they just don't like Malaysia
* or, it's not worth the money to localise
* or, as FFXIV is an MMO and none of the others are
* or, something else
* or, none of these and it's something I haven't thought of

I believe it's contractual. This doesn't make the premise invalid no matter how much you dislike my reasoning.



Australia's gamers spent $3.4 billion in 2020 (total population 25 million),
New Zealand's Gamers spent $324 million in 2020 (total population 4.8 million),
USA's gamers spent $60.4 billion (total population 334 million),
Japan's gamers spent $20.7 billion (total population 126 million).

It's meaningless and a red herring to the why of it.



There is one opening in 10 days for the Oceanic region, of which large chunks of South East Asia are part of. There are also plans for needed server enhancements for NA, EU and JA, that's taking it through to 2023 I'd say. Opening another one in SEA, say in Singapore - or in LATAM, say in Brazil - comes down to specific property earnings, number of players and contracts with existing distributors.

Honestly, I hope that you can buy the game legally soon, but for now, you likely need to direct your questions to the SE CEO, not Yoshi-P. As I really do think it's going to be contractual or something else way outside development.

If you don't like what I think, sorry.

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I think they still don’t get your point, lol.

There is a lot of logistics including local laws in some SEA territories that it's likely not worth SE's time and money to handle publishing rights on their own, and their best bet might be to get another partner. Like the game in China and Korea is not published by Square-Enix, they are handled by 3rd party publishers.

I'm reminded that I used to have a lot of indonesian friends and for a lot of things they have to shoot through questionable hoops to obtain things that most other first world countries can get rather easily. It's somewhat like that gaming situation in South America.

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You mean by banning them, right? They've explicitly come out and stated that they're breaking ToS on an offical forum.

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Of course you're joking but that is likely what happened to the OP and why we haven't heard back from him and I'm sure he knew the risk by posting that. They needed a voice and he decided to be one.

Also the big man is on the board so he could always pass this along but that's all he can do.

is not about that , a lot of misconception here~ is not about localization or give the game to 3rd party , is not about adding a server for us

I think a lot of SEA players will be happy and most of them are with the game right now, we just wanted to be able to identify as SEA players and being able to register our account with our country listed ,

whether we are part of NA/EU OR OC regions is literally does not matter~
that is it~
don't makes this complicated, like 99% online games in 2022 does not have that type of restrictions , kuala lumpur held 2 distant worlds concert already ,

this is just an online game, and in 2022 we are not able to register because our country
is not listed , but country like malawi and madagascar is ~

lets not forget that SEA for singapore and brunei is listed , in 2014 , If I'm not mistaken , then SQEX and FFXIV never add more~ if the problems is with country like Malaysia , why not add Indonesia , Philippines or Thailand ?
you know that Singapore and Brunei , is beside malaysia and surrounded with Indonesia and Philippines

you know that everything that is you talk about is unrelated, where others company like Blizzard, Amazon and others has settle this issue right, there is not problems with any individual gov to play all these other games and mmo right?

if there is , why only singpore and brunei is added~ both are from SEA
There is a total of 11 Brunei and Singapore got added ,how about Burma (Myanmar), Cambodia, Timor-Leste, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, the Philippines, , Thailand and Vietnam.

are these countries does not exist? are we not human enough to ask for our concern, as human being can we communicate and try to works this thing together~

I think it is extremely beneficial to SQEX , CBU3 , FFXIV can have enough and real data, to know how many players are from SEA , so as a company they can do a lot of things for the better future

but the first step that we want , after almost 10 years , is to give us the ability able to register , officially supported and our country is added and listed so old and new player alike can enjoy playing this game, with ease of mind that , we SEA players exist , and we are part of FFXIV community, we are all WoL , we play and we pay our sub~ and we are being acknowledge by our lovely producer , our savior , mr yoshi P~

and we are indeed , the best community, like we won an award for that right? this is the best mmorpg right now, the developer always listen to the community ~
we just want to this issue to be address by our producer in 2022,

please ~

OP please stop dismissing people explanations as unrelated.

Countries have distribution laws and it has been said in this thread time and time again SE have probably contracted those in the countries you mention are not available to a third party and they (not SE) are the ones who have decided not to support the game in those countries. Either that or the countries themselves through some legislation mean it is not possible for the game to be accessed.

SE would not give up any income if it were legally allowed to get that income - that is a simple fact that you cannot dismiss.

Maybe try asking your countries leaders why FFXIV is not available? There are a whole heap of legal, taxation and other things to consider.

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Originally Posted by TheLordDawnbringer

can we get our Answer , we are not demanding, we wanna ask is there no hope for us?

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Well I wish you luck on this crusade. However, in a few of those nations that you listed, they may actually have laws banning the game, or preventing them from selling the game. Taxes and costs have to be considered when bringing a game to a marketplace, also local laws have to be respected. Which is why Chinese Players are forced to play on Chinese Specific Servers which makes the games content different than the rest of the world.

I'm not sure which of these issues have prevented the localization of the game to your nation, but I could hazard a guess for a few of them.

Singapore is included because it has open trade agreements with Japan, and has fairly easy laws for international business.

Conversely:
Brunei - is an Islamic Monarchy, and has strict laws in regards to international business.
Malaysia - Federal Republic with a state religion, and has several strict laws based on it's state religion. Which causes a headache for international business, as they have to insure they don't break Islamic law while having a western style approach to business.
Indonesia - Once again Islamic Majority state, many laws enforce Islam, making international business to jump through extra hoops.
Philippines - Government chaos at it's finest. Unlike the others, the Philippines has one of the least reliable governments in the world, it's become really difficult to do business in the Philippines due to the issues with it's government.

Note: the main issue in Islamic Countries is the depiction of Alcohol use, and the eating of Unclean foods. I'm sure many other conservative Islamic countries are not included, due to how hard it would be to change the game to be legal in such nations. (And lets not get into clothing options for females, as some countries like Saudi Arabia have very strict laws that prevent video games which show any skin on female characters.

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Originally Posted by TheLordDawnbringer

nah, my country and SE has done business , no FF games got ban or censored, sqex has done a couple event here in malaysia , literally like 90% of games can be play and purchase here~ we even can register and get support from blizzard , cause our country is listed.

WoW, SWTOR, New World & even BDO wont allow you to register your acct as SEA country.. But guess what? all those MMO and more allow you to register and play as SEA player is listed ~

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WoW, SWTOR I know for a fact both have Islamic Localization, which means that they changed the game to be legal in Saudi Arabia, so if your country is Islamic, which I suspect, a big issue for 14 is the depiction of Women being able to wear bikinis, and the use of alcohol, most Final Fantasy Games have male Protagonists, and the female characters are dressed in a way that does not cause an issue with Islamic Law. 14 However does have such issues. BTW, one of the reasons why Sort Skirts are not allowed in WOW, and why almost all Skirt options have pants in SWTOR has to do with Islamic localization.

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Well I wish you luck on this crusade. However, in a few of those nations that you listed, they may actually have laws banning the game, or preventing them from selling the game. Taxes and costs have to be considered when bringing a game to a marketplace, also local laws have to be respected. Which is why Chinese Players are forced to play on Chinese Specific Servers which makes the games content different than the rest of the world.

I'm not sure which of these issues have prevented the localization of the game to your nation, but I could hazard a guess for a few of them.

Singapore is included because it has open trade agreements with Japan, and has fairly easy laws for international business.

Conversely:
Brunei - is an Islamic Monarchy, and has strict laws in regards to international business.
Malaysia - Federal Republic with a state religion, and has several strict laws based on it's state religion. Which causes a headache for international business, as they have to insure they don't break Islamic law while having a western style approach to business.
Indonesia - Once again Islamic Majority state, many laws enforce Islam, making international business to jump through extra hoops.
Philippines - Government chaos at it's finest. Unlike the others, the Philippines has one of the least reliable governments in the world, it's become really difficult to do business in the Philippines due to the issues with it's government.

Note: the main issue in Islamic Countries is the depiction of Alcohol use, and the eating of Unclean foods. I'm sure many other conservative Islamic countries are not included, due to how hard it would be to change the game to be legal in such nations. (And lets not get into clothing options for females, as some countries like Saudi Arabia have very strict laws that prevent video games which show any skin on female characters.

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it literally has no issue with that, others game has done worst , and yet still be able to sell and brought in game, most sony game is can be literally sold at retail , game that break the islamic code, and yet the government still does not censored the game
don't assume just because of islamic this and islamic that, Malaysia is literally one the most diverse country in the world,

is has nothing to do with that ~ if you think about that , then how come other games can ?
it issue is just we are not be able to register an account cause most of sea country is not listed~ brunei has the most strict in islamic law, but still listed

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Originally Posted by TheLordDawnbringer

is has nothing to do with that ~ if you think about that , then how come other games can ?

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What other games do or don't do is irrelevant. Clearly there is something preventing THIS game from being sold in certain countries.

None of us know exactly what the issue is, we're all just guessing here, but it's almost certain that the issue is with the local regulations/licenses/copyrights/whatevers rather than SE arbitrarily saying "eh, screw those guys."

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Originally Posted by TheLordDawnbringer

I'm sorry if this is wrong place to ask but I just want my voice and so many players be heard
every time this topic is brought , we get shutdown~
I'm still sad, in 2022 , it's really hard , after 10 years for we , Wol from SEA , legally cannot play this game? we still need to break tos, fake our address just to play and pay the game that we love?

are we not exist ?we are not asking for DC /servers , can we at least get to register and put our address , why is Singapore is officially listed , while Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines and more is not officially listed

Singapore is not NA , Brunei Darussalam is not EU , we are from SEA , and in 2022 all we wanted is to be able to play without worrying we break ToS , or cannot get official support if we submit a ticket~

if there is a contest , we can get disqualified even if we won~ we can't play from PS or Steam because legally not supported ~ ~ can we not get error when making payments because legally we are not in the list~without 3rd party stuff

we pay our sub, can we just get our country listed? can ask just to be acknowledged as players . are we not part of the Wol family ?

please MR Naoki Yoshida~ please SQEX !

please ~ JUST Acknowledged we exist ~please address this in live letter or something~ is there nothing that we can do?

some of us is WoL from 1.0 , his/her name in the credits ~ we all love this game, this game change our live, even safe some of us~

can we get our Answer , we are not demanding, we wanna ask is there no hope for us?

p.s sorry for my bad english ~

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Get this WoL a server or at the least, let them play!

You probably have to address your letter to your local government or the localization team at SE.

FFXIV is an mmo. That requires a lot more legal hoops to jump through. Things like subscriptions, cash shop, gamecontent and game rating can all prevent legalization in your country.

Heck the fact anything dead related has China get a completely different client in WoW where anything death related is replaced by loafs of bread. I dont know how the Chinese client in FFXIV is different but Id assume it has similar changes removing skeleton enemies due to laws.

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Originally Posted by TheLordDawnbringer

I'm sorry if this is wrong place to ask but I just want my voice and so many players be heard
every time this topic is brought , we get shutdown~
I'm still sad, in 2022 , it's really hard , after 10 years for we , Wol from SEA , legally cannot play this game? we still need to break tos, fake our address just to play and pay the game that we love?

are we not exist ?we are not asking for DC /servers , can we at least get to register and put our address , why is Singapore is officially listed , while Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines and more is not officially listed

Singapore is not NA , Brunei Darussalam is not EU , we are from SEA , and in 2022 all we wanted is to be able to play without worrying we break ToS , or cannot get official support if we submit a ticket~

if there is a contest , we can get disqualified even if we won~ we can't play from PS or Steam because legally not supported ~ ~ can we not get error when making payments because legally we are not in the list~without 3rd party stuff

we pay our sub, can we just get our country listed? can ask just to be acknowledged as players . are we not part of the Wol family ?

please MR Naoki Yoshida~ please SQEX !

please ~ JUST Acknowledged we exist ~please address this in live letter or something~ is there nothing that we can do?

some of us is WoL from 1.0 , his/her name in the credits ~ we all love this game, this game change our live, even safe some of us~

can we get our Answer , we are not demanding, we wanna ask is there no hope for us?

p.s sorry for my bad english ~

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Holy shit yes this. SINCE FF11. Singapore is not officially listed in NA account. We get to choose city as option. However they dont accept our postal code. We have to select a NA state with a fake postal code.

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

What other games do or don't do is irrelevant. Clearly there is something preventing THIS game from being sold in certain countries.

None of us know exactly what the issue is, we're all just guessing here, but it's almost certain that the issue is with the local regulations/licenses/copyrights/whatevers rather than SE arbitrarily saying "eh, screw those guys."

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yeap , that is why we wanted our beloved producer to address this topic , 2022, can you help us, explain to the community , we just want to communicate,

Please let malaysia to be inside ff14 ,waited so long time
from a bunch player from malaysia