The Armoire: an ongoing (and frustrating) mystery

TLDR: a new expansion just started with 2 new jobs, new limited gear, new glamour and new relics, my glamour dresser is full, my saddlebag is full, and my 3 retainers are already full of job-specific gear and relics. HELP


There’s been complaints about the Armoire for a while, but I’d like to make a thread as one big focus, hoping it will go a bit higher on the priority list of the dev team.

The Active Help window says this:

"Situated in your inn room, estate, and squadron barracks, the armoire can be used to store certain kinds of items with limited methods of obtainment. These include job-specific gear, seasonal event garb, and so forth."


Inconsistencies within the current system:

• As of today, the only job-specific gear that can be stored in the Armoire is the ARR one.
• Seasonal event garb is mostly storable, but there are exceptions like some exclusive items from the Moogle Treasure Trove events (e.g. the Great Serpent of Ringa is storable, but the Namazu Earring isn't).
• Premium items from the Online Store, which are "items with limited methods of obtainment" are not storable.
• Items from the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding are not storable, nor can they be re-acquired from a Calamity Salvager if lost.
• The crafting and gathering tools acquired through achievements are the only achievement-related items that cannot be stored, with the exception of the "...of the Luminary" ones.
• Maybe the least requested item ever, but for the sake of consistency: Manderville Earrings is a limited seasonal item, it's non-retrievable, not purchasable on the Online Store, and not storable.

This is already a pretty big chunk of items that, if you collect them, need to be stored somewhere and therefore taking precious inventory slots.

”Limited methods of obtainment”:

Maybe the criterias needed to meet this requirement should be expanded:

• Obsolete relics: custom stats become irrelevant with every new expansion, and even with the existence of Replicas it’s just nicer to be able to link the real weapon or tool in chat...
• DoH/DoL relics such as Lucis, Skybuilders' and Resplendent tools do not have custom stats, and take up 33 inventory slots already
• Deep Dungeon weapons take considerable effort to acquire, with little to no benefit apart from glamour.
• Gear specific to the Baldesion Arsenal and Delubrum Reginae (Savage) such as the Elemental +2, the Kirin/Vermilion and the Augmented Law’s Order sets. This content will eventually decline in popularity and its loot will become harder, if not impossible to acquire, thus making its methods of obtainment more and more limited.
• Lvl 1 unique and untradable gear, including all seasonal items, premium items, and items obtained through quests or other means (recently, the Sharlayan Diadema and Thavnairian Ribbon)
• Basically, any item that is unique, untradable, and can’t be acquired through Dungeons, Normal Raids, Savage Raids, Alliance Raids (all content that can be run as an undersized party), or the Market Board.

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Of course, one might say “just get more retainers” or “you don’t need to hold on to all this obsolete gear, just throw it away” or “you can organize a glamour farm with 23 other people if you really want it”, but there are a lot of different types of players.
Some are collectors, some are hoarders, some can’t afford extra retainers, some just don’t have the time and energy to go through the same effort more than once. What all players have is an Armoire, and too many items that can’t be stored in it.

I understand that the Armoire is an old system preceding the Glamour Dresser by several years, and it’s likely that attempting to improve it would result in a huge production cost, but if it’s not addressed soon the problem (and the inventory bloating, and the frustration of players) will grow bigger and bigger with every new expansion, if not every new patch.

Overall, expanding the possibilities of the Armoire system would result in less inventory bloating, less need to upgrade the Glamour Dresser regularly, and less frustration from all types of players.

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We need the wardrobe system that games like Wow and Gw2 have. And we needed it like two expansions ago. But we don't know what kind of code they are dealing with. It could be impossible for them to implement something like that. But I agree with you the current system is terrible.

For weapon relics: At certain steps in the quests you get the ability to buy replicas from NPCs. Integrate this into the Glamour Dresser so we can pull the glamour from Inn-rooms instead of having to go to each individual NPC. This would allow us to discard the main weapons when we're finished with them if we want and have a quick and easy way to get the glamours.

no.. you got it right. It'd be REALLY REALLY nice if we could have AF sets stored in it. I think the current reasoning is they all are re-acquirable reasonably easily, some free. It's weird though that we gotta go to the calamity salvager for one set, sharlyan for another.. etc.

would be very very nice if they'd expand it though. There's probably some sort of tech limitation making them hesitant to dump things in it.

But as someone else suggested, just having an NPC link in one place to purchase all of the ones we've unlocked would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

We need the wardrobe system that games like Wow and Gw2 have. And we needed it like two expansions ago. But we don't know what kind of code they are dealing with. It could be impossible for them to implement something like that. But I agree with you the current system is terrible.

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It's not impossible. The functionality is already in the game with the "try on" system and dye previews. Its just dev time to make a UI for it to save sets like glamour plates (which there's plug-ins that do that already)

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Originally Posted by Phaty

It's not impossible. The functionality is already in the game with the "try on" system and dye previews. Its just dev time to make a UI for it to save sets like glamour plates (which there's plug-ins that do that already)

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The "try on" and "dye preview" features are client-based (you are the only one seeing them on your screen).
The reason glamour plates can only be applied in city hubs, glamour dressers only exist in inns and GC barracks, and armoires and FC chests only exist in specific areas is because this is all information that has to be stored online and shared to all other players as well as the Lodestone, and it would cause way too much stress on servers if we could use these features everywhere all the time. That requires a lot more production resources than "just make the UI for it".
Additionally, a lot of requests have been made in the past to improve the UI or other systems that have existed since 2.0 or even 1.0, and the dev team has already explained that it was virtually impossible because the original structure they're working with can't support it, or they can't justify the enormous production costs required to basically rebuild that structure from scratch.

The "plug-ins" you mention are third party tools and against Terms of Service, so it's not a good idea to discuss them on an official forum.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

We need the wardrobe system that games like Wow and Gw2 have. And we needed it like two expansions ago. But we don't know what kind of code they are dealing with. It could be impossible for them to implement something like that. But I agree with you the current system is terrible.

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Yeah we do, the code is utter sh!t.

It's the reason for damn near every limitation in the game. Start with sh!t, End with sh!t.

IMHO they need to stop allowing Glamour everywhere because it's causing a strain on the system. Only allow it in Inn's where it can properly load an expanded Glamour Dresser. Even if it takes 10s or so to rebuild everything you have, or query it.

The devs have stated the reason they can't expand the Glamour Dresser is because our data has to go with us wherever we are. If they made it so that data is only accessed in very limited capacity it would lessen the strain.

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Originally Posted by Kisshu

For weapon relics: At certain steps in the quests you get the ability to buy replicas from NPCs. Integrate this into the Glamour Dresser so we can pull the glamour from Inn-rooms instead of having to go to each individual NPC. This would allow us to discard the main weapons when we're finished with them if we want and have a quick and easy way to get the glamours.

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Except the Skybuilders DoH/DoL relics. For some reason those can't be obtained via NPC so you have to keep 8 items if you want the glamours.

Yay, more item bloat!

^ All these pointless band aid fixes.

Get rid of it and just make a log. Once you obtain and item and equip/bind it to yourself mark the item entry as 'true' in the log.
You can still use the glamour commodore to create glamour plates and instead of putting items in it it's just the log and you can select whatever items you have as 'true'.


Would use far less data as well.


But hey, they need to make money on people who buy extra retainers and put their armors on them.

The glamor system has needed serious improvements for a long, long time. More than just a few extra plates and a little extra dresser space. Mods have stepped up for some of this (like additional glam plates and easier at-a-glance seeing if you have something with the same appearance), but there's only so much that can be done client side and, of course, we aren't supposed to use mods.

But, sadly, I don't think we're ever going to get more than maybe a token improvement every few years. It's just going to be one of FF's downsides I guess, "Does most things better than the other big MMOs but glam is worse." And, of course, SE makes more money when you buy additional inventory from them...

Spaghetti code, the armoire uses a database with limited capacity, when they realised they were going to end up breaching that capacity they stopped asigning job gear to it.
Instead, AF gear for the past 3 expansions can be infinitely regained from the vendor or calamity salvager.
So unless you're currently using it for glam, discard it.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

We need the wardrobe system that games like Wow and Gw2 have. And we needed it like two expansions ago. But we don't know what kind of code they are dealing with. It could be impossible for them to implement something like that. But I agree with you the current system is terrible.

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We know that they can add new things to the game such as Mahjong and Vermilion. We also know that achievements can be used to generate items as well as coffers that can generate multiple. And with the makai and some earlier achievement they have shown that we can get achievements from acquired equipment. And if data is so bad then they can tie a total of 5(armor)*7(roles)+4(accessories)+20(weapons/shield)=59 unique pieces of equipment aka an entire tier to one "unlock"...

It really does feel like the lack of a glamour log is just excuses.

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Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte

The "try on" and "dye preview" features are client-based (you are the only one seeing them on your screen).
The reason glamour plates can only be applied in city hubs, glamour dressers only exist in inns and GC barracks, and armoires and FC chests only exist in specific areas is because this is all information that has to be stored online and shared to all other players as well as the Lodestone, and it would cause way too much stress on servers if we could use these features everywhere all the time. That requires a lot more production resources than "just make the UI for it".
Additionally, a lot of requests have been made in the past to improve the UI or other systems that have existed since 2.0 or even 1.0, and the dev team has already explained that it was virtually impossible because the original structure they're working with can't support it, or they can't justify the enormous production costs required to basically rebuild that structure from scratch.

The "plug-ins" you mention are third party tools and against Terms of Service, so it's not a good idea to discuss them on an official forum.

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So Tandy computer limitations.

PS4 Limitation and indie company, please look forward to it and please understand.

Personally.. i don't see they don't just further flesh out a system they have in the game and scrap the existing system.
Hear me out.. when you unlock job gear, it puts a tick on your character's data and you are able to you are able to repurchase it from a calamity salvager. To the best of my knowledge, having access to the item in this manner doesn't tax their systems as much as the glamour dresser system does; so what they should do is have that for every acquired visual equipment piece, and when you pull it out of the new system it is a level 1 version with zero stats (And of course make the weapons and job gear keep their job requirements).

Will this require them to create two of every items? Yes.. but i'm pretty sure storing data of the base items this way is easier than what the glamour dresser does; as it has to store the items you put into it, remember any changes you made to it before tossing it in and then be able to spit it back out into your inventory should you choose to retrieve it.

Now who knows.. i could be wrong on this.. but the current system we have will eventually become untenable and the only solution is to introduce a new way to glamour rather than band-aid fix the current system every few years. And yes, we have to worry about the dreaded spaghetti code, but that IS fixable. Companies do this kind of thing to existing products when they need to... One big example is that Blizzard was able to do this between Pandaria and WoD, there was large scale overhaul that impacted many of the older systems that held the game back. Yoshida and his team(s) can do this too, the company just needs to allow them to do it (since i'm fully convinced that Yoshida and his teams succeed in spite of Square Enix, never because of them).

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Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte

Additionally, a lot of requests have been made in the past to improve the UI or other systems that have existed since 2.0 or even 1.0, and the dev team has already explained that it was virtually impossible because the original structure they're working with can't support it, or they can't justify the enormous production costs required to basically rebuild that structure from scratch.

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Honestly, if (at this point) they can't justify the overhauls necessary to fix a lot of these things in their most profitable property, then this game will only ever decline. I really wish that wasn't the case.. but if they can't find a reason to fix the systems here, they'll only keep having make more belt-slot sacrifices as things continue.

Yeah whatever they did to code the storage system has gotta be some eldritch horror nightmare or something, because ALL of the storage in this game is a clunky non-user-friendly mess.

Letting more stuff get shoved in the armoire would be good, but also really just yet another bandaid on a bleeding disaster of a system.

I'll never get a retainer for glamour storage for 2 reasons 1) I refuse to encourage that type of monetization and 2) Having to get the glamour out then put it in the chest just so I can make a new plate from it is asinine.

I triage my glamour dresser about once a month now. After my most recent pass this past week I'm sitting at about 350/400, and this is on a Viera which effectively gets extra space due to not being able to use most of the game's headwear.

Don't even get me started on the paltry number of glamour plates.

You can get the Stormblood AF from the Calamity Salvager, so throw all of it away.

You can get the Shadowbringers AF from spoiler NPC at the bottom of spoiler zone in Shadowbringers. So throw all of that away.

Keep your idealized AF, your augmented/dyable AF.

If gear can't go in the armoire and the gear tooltip says "Shop Selling Price: (number here) Restricted"

it means you can buy it back from the Calamity Salvager. Throw every piece like this that can't go in the armoire on the ground.

Beyond that, you have to assess for yourself whether a piece is worth keeping.

If it's a leveling dungeon drop, throw it out; you can force the game to give it back to you in less than 9 runs, since leveling dungeons forcibly give you a drop for your Job at the end of each run.

If it's a 60, 70, 80, 90 dungeon drop and you are partial to it or use it in a glamour, save it.

If you haven't worn it in ages, toss it.

If your space is valuable, start assigning actual value to the things you will use, and chuck anything that you won't.

The armoire should only be used for gear with special stats. Xp earrings, set bonuses and so on. The rest are for glamour and should be a yes/no tick in your character's data just like your crafting/fishing/gathering log which record the first time you gather or craft an item. Every time we go to a marker board we access thousands of items and their tool tips, but apparently we are unable to get a "glamour board" because it's too much data? Even if they group it based on sets like someone suggested?

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Originally Posted by Floortank

You can get the Stormblood AF from the Calamity Salvager, so throw all of it away.

You can get the Shadowbringers AF from spoiler NPC at the bottom of spoiler zone in Shadowbringers. So throw all of that away.

Keep your idealized AF, your augmented/dyable AF.

If gear can't go in the armoire and the gear tooltip says "Shop Selling Price: (number here) Restricted"

it means you can buy it back from the Calamity Salvager. Throw every piece like this that can't go in the armoire on the ground.

Beyond that, you have to assess for yourself whether a piece is worth keeping.

If it's a leveling dungeon drop, throw it out; you can force the game to give it back to you in less than 9 runs, since leveling dungeons forcibly give you a drop for your Job at the end of each run.

If it's a 60, 70, 80, 90 dungeon drop and you are partial to it or use it in a glamour, save it.

If you haven't worn it in ages, toss it.

If your space is valuable, start assigning actual value to the things you will use, and chuck anything that you won't.

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No thats not how its working. IF They dont bother to make one NPC for all of that, idc. And no i dont even have AF gear, or at least not more then like 2-3 pieces.

Its an annoying, overcomplicated system and they could easily bind the gear to our job leveling archivments, giving us all in one place. And no im not gonna run a dungeon 9 times bc im wanting that one piece lol
-for example I just realized that even after playing it since its release ive never gotten the caster head piece from the swallows compass - i realized as i finally got the reskin when leveling my last caster.

Im not gonna waste time just cause they cant fix their storage. Also i can use 8 chars per server with 10 retainers each... theres enough space even if it needs some stupid workaround...

Just look how we got flooded with tokken at bozja... look how many unneeded new items we got to craft... like do we need 4-6 wood types for almost pointless leveling gear?

And dont get me started on how we need an external premium app for shifting stuff between retainer...

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

It really does feel like the lack of a glamour log is just excuses.

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Yes, on some things for sure.... especially if they dont just unlock some older gear for all jobs after a while, the HW accessory, at least shire n stuff were unlocked, just as proto ultima...

Let this thread be successful and catch the attention of the devs.

We, as a community, can disagree on so many things like lore, combat system, and classes, but let this be the thing we can come together on.

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Originally Posted by EmpyreanHelios

Let this thread be successful and catch the attention of the devs.

We, as a community, can disagree on so many things like lore, combat system, and classes, but let this be the thing we can come together on.

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This thread pops up once a week/month.

And last Q&A the only answer they gave was that it needed too much data, which is... questionable. Especially when they have expanded our inventory which need's a significantly more data than a compressed log.

Really wish one of the streamer Q&A's had managed to push out a more thorough answer, but no.

I don't know why I'm surprised, but the number of people who wrongly assume they know how the game works on a technical and production level and how easy this should be to rebuild or fix is truly astonishing.

Coincidentally, from the latest livestream (translation by the r/ffxiv Discord server):

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Of course I'm thankful and grateful for players to tell us that "we should do this, or this should be that" and whatnot, but verbal abuses are...(something we wish could stop).
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There are new players who join this game and there are many players who come from other games and of course, this also means they are players who experience Endwalker as their first expansion, so it's a given that there will be mistakes and errors here and there, but after 11 years of journey with players up to this point it does make me feel that the language used ended up a little overboard there.
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So I have only one request to every player out there - please imagine that you're speaking face to face with a developer whom you don't know the name or face and imagine how they'd feel before sending your feedback over, and I'll be happy if people can do so politely.
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Considering things have been getting really extreme lately, and with staff members putting their all to make it work...Of course I don't mean everything should be given praise. Mistakes are mistakes and they should be notified, but I’ll appreciate it if everyone can give careful thought in their thoughts and feedback before sending them over.

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Please remember that we have no idea what the developers have to work with, and that due to the nature of the game they are constantly busy working on future content, and can only provide quality-of-life changes sparingly.

If you want to use WoW as a reference, please look at the patch changes for Transmogrification and how much time passed between the initial release of the game, the first implementation, and each subsequent update.

If you started playing after Stormblood, consider how glamour worked before the glamour dresser was implemented. Or how there used to be different types of glamour prisms. Things used to be way worse.

In the 65th Live Letter Yoshida said they had already looked into implementing a "glamour catalogue", they had the text ready for it and all, but the sheer amount of data made it not possible to concretize for now.

So we know they ARE looking into improving the glamour system. But technical limitations and higher priorities (like, I don't know, improving the server overload and maybe resuming sales?) mean this still has to wait a while.

Expanding the possibilities of the Armoire is not the perfect solution to this problem, but it's something that would already help a lot and, hopefully, should be easier to implement than a complete overhaul of the glamour system.

Just going to remind everyone of what was said before launch.

Source Interview

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The glamour dresser has become a vital asset to a lot of players, but there are limitations. These have been alleviated every expansion with additional storage, but even then it’s not hard to max it out, and with the ever growing number of outfits and gear from dungeons, raids and the Final Fantasy XIV store, from the outset we’re worried about storage. Can we expect any changes or adjustments made to the glamour chest or glamour system in Endwalker?

I’m afraid there won’t be any sort of updates as of the launch of Endwalker because we do need to concentrate on releasing the expansion itself, so I’m afraid there won’t be any updates as of 6.0. But, we have started planning and work on… hopefully this will alleviate some of the concerns the players have, but we’re targeting somewhere around 6.1 or 6.2 timing. And plans are being made, so once development has progressed some more and we’re able to reveal more information, we will take the time to discuss what is planned for patches moving forward.

And I think one of the quicker updates, or the update that might come sooner, is the number of items that can be stored in the box, although you will have to wait until the patch series. I think we should be able to meet the expectations or respond to the feedback we have been receiving.

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I can't wait to see the threads popping up in 6.1 saying that the changes are not sufficient, even though he clearly said the bigger change will come later. :)

Agreed.
At this point, the armoire really is a relic.... that doesn't even accept all relics...

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Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte

I don't know why I'm surprised, but the number of people who wrongly assume they know how the game works on a technical and production level and how easy this should be to rebuild or fix is truly astonishing.

Coincidentally, from the latest livestream (translation by the r/ffxiv Discord server):


Please remember that we have no idea what the developers have to work with, and that due to the nature of the game they are constantly busy working on future content, and can only provide quality-of-life changes sparingly.

If you want to use WoW as a reference, please look at the patch changes for Transmogrification and how much time passed between the initial release of the game, the first implementation, and each subsequent update.

If you started playing after Stormblood, consider how glamour worked before the glamour dresser was implemented. Or how there used to be different types of glamour prisms. Things used to be way worse.

In the 65th Live Letter Yoshida said they had already looked into implementing a "glamour catalogue", they had the text ready for it and all, but the sheer amount of data made it not possible to concretize for now.

So we know they ARE looking into improving the glamour system. But technical limitations and higher priorities (like, I don't know, improving the server overload and maybe resuming sales?) mean this still has to wait a while.

Expanding the possibilities of the Armoire is not the perfect solution to this problem, but it's something that would already help a lot and, hopefully, should be easier to implement than a complete overhaul of the glamour system.

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I would absolutely love to know the concrete reason to why they have a problem implementing a glamour catalogue. But if that reason really is that it costs "too much data" then it sounds like they are trying to make a table containing the unique id of every single piece of equipment which would be a complete waste of storage.

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Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte

I don't know why I'm surprised, but the number of people who wrongly assume they know how the game works on a technical and production level and how easy this should be to rebuild or fix is truly astonishing.

Coincidentally, from the latest livestream (translation by the r/ffxiv Discord server):


Please remember that we have no idea what the developers have to work with, and that due to the nature of the game they are constantly busy working on future content, and can only provide quality-of-life changes sparingly.

If you want to use WoW as a reference, please look at the patch changes for Transmogrification and how much time passed between the initial release of the game, the first implementation, and each subsequent update.

If you started playing after Stormblood, consider how glamour worked before the glamour dresser was implemented. Or how there used to be different types of glamour prisms. Things used to be way worse.

In the 65th Live Letter Yoshida said they had already looked into implementing a "glamour catalogue", they had the text ready for it and all, but the sheer amount of data made it not possible to concretize for now.

So we know they ARE looking into improving the glamour system. But technical limitations and higher priorities (like, I don't know, improving the server overload and maybe resuming sales?) mean this still has to wait a while.

Expanding the possibilities of the Armoire is not the perfect solution to this problem, but it's something that would already help a lot and, hopefully, should be easier to implement than a complete overhaul of the glamour system.

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I don't know if you were trying to shutdown opposing opinions/feedback by trying the emotional manipulation tactic people like to use against music feedback here, but that doesn't really add anything to the topic. No one is throwing insults at the devs, and even if they were they don't really pay attention to the English forum.
And besides Yoshida's comment was based specifically on the JP community... which is, despite what some users in this forum fantasize, extremely toxic in places like Twitter and other message boards. Japanese culture may seem more "polite" in the surface, but when it comes to the internet, their "geeks" are extremely hostile and toxic. Have been since the early 2000s.

Please don't tear into me for the question I am about to ask as I know very little about the coding of this game. Is it not possible for SE to adopt a GW2 style of glamour storage? In GW2 if your character has ever obtained an item, even just once, that image template is stored as a code in your template database and you can recall it at any time as a glamour provided you have a token to activate the glamour. This goes for every single piece of gear in that game. GW2 appears not to have any great difficulty in setting up a database of this type for each character. They do this as well with dyes of which there are literally hundreds if not a thousand or more. On top of all that, each piece of gear will have anywhere from 2 to 4 different dye channels to it. There is no need for storage of either the original items or of any dyes. This frees up an enormous amount of storage space and does not seem to cause any difficulties for GW2. I ask again, is there a specific reason why SE couldn't adopt some of these practices into FFXIV?

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Please don't tear into me for the question I am about to ask as I know very little about the coding of this game. Is it not possible for SE to adopt a GW2 style of glamour storage? In GW2 if your character has ever obtained an item, even just once, that image template is stored as a code in your template database and you can recall it at any time as a glamour provided you have a token to activate the glamour. This goes for every single piece of gear in that game. GW2 appears not to have any great difficulty in setting up a database of this type for each character. They do this as well with dyes of which there are literally hundreds if not a thousand or more. On top of all that, each piece of gear will have anywhere from 2 to 4 different dye channels to it. There is no need for storage of either the original items or of any dyes. This frees up an enormous amount of storage space and does not seem to cause any difficulties for GW2. I ask again, is there a specific reason why SE couldn't adopt some of these practices into FFXIV?

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I recall seeing someone show that equipment in this game does actually have multiple dye channels, but for some reason we are restricted to only one.

Thanks for sharing that interview Garnix, I hadn't read that one.
I remember that in the last Live Letter they did hint that the glamour dresser would be upgraded, so I was expecting more slots and maybe glamour plates, but now I'm looking forward to hear more about those changes in the future Live Letters.
Hopefully the Armoire is part of those plans...?

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I don't know if you were trying to shutdown opposing opinions/feedback by trying the emotional manipulation tactic people like to use against music feedback here, but that doesn't really add anything to the topic. No one is throwing insults at the devs

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I just see a lot of sarcasm and cynicism and people suggesting "simple fixes" without trying to understand the situation.
There is no opposition here, I want the same thing everyone else wants, and I share the same frustration as everyone else. There are just nicer ways to say it.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

and even if they were they don't really pay attention to the English forum.
And besides Yoshida's comment was based specifically on the JP community... which is, despite what some users in this forum fantasize, extremely toxic in places like Twitter and other message boards. Japanese culture may seem more "polite" in the surface, but when it comes to the internet, their "geeks" are extremely hostile and toxic. Have been since the early 2000s.

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From the same translation I posted earlier:
https://i.imgur.com/kxytuFl.png

I do also feel that the EN forums are not getting a lot of attention, but again consider it from the staff's perspective and try to filter out the useful comments from the complaints, the memes, and the unimportant stuff that gets posted here on a daily basis from literally every player in the world who doesn't use the Japanese, French or German forums.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

I ask again, is there a specific reason why SE couldn't adopt some of these practices into FFXIV?

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There is no real (official, cough) way to know, but if I had to guess it's probably once again due to the code structure that was built in 1.0 and 2.0, and them not foreseeing how huge of a deal glamour would become over time (else the glamour dresser would have been there much earlier).
Probably the same reason why housing is the way it is (both buying the plot and decorating), and why it's also a big source of frustration at the moment, and why (some) changes are coming.

But yeah hopefully when they share more news about the glamour system changes, as was mentioned in the interview, they'll also share more about what was possible and not possible to do.
Or maybe we'll get a Q&A with someone from the dev team like when they invited the Lead UI Designer, that stream shed a lot of light on the technical limitations of the HUD system.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

We need the wardrobe system that games like Wow and Gw2 have. And we needed it like two expansions ago. But we don't know what kind of code they are dealing with. It could be impossible for them to implement something like that. But I agree with you the current system is terrible.

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Definitely need the xmog system from WoW in some form here if they can make a version of it for ffxiv.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

No thats not how its working. IF They dont bother to make one NPC for all of that, idc. And no i dont even have AF gear, or at least not more then like 2-3 pieces.

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It was not intended as an argument, simply some steps to keep your inventory from ruining the game for you. Peace.

Bumping this thread since there have been some news since then:

With 6.2 the dev team announced 200 more slots in the glamour dresser, which I'm sure everyone is thrilled about (I have one inventory tab full of gear just waiting the big day...). But given the amount of glamour we're already getting this expansion (treasure maps, MSQ, bicolor gemstones, custom delivery rewards, and the weapon design contest winners will have to be implemented at some point) I fear those slots will be filled very fast... and there have been no news regarding the main topic of this thread: the Armoire.

I've also just noticed yet another inconsistency within the Armoire system: while the "... of the Luminary" tools you get from completing crafting and gathering achievements below lvl 50 are storable in the Armoire, the tools you get from the achievements above lvl 50 ("Blessed ...keep's", "Blessed ...king's" and "Resplendent") are not. As far as I'm aware this makes them the only equipable items you can only get through achievements that cannot be stored in the Armoire...

I edited the original post to add that extra bit.

Throwing my two cents in here. I think the mogstation items should be capable of being placed in the armoire. That would save a lot of room in the glamour dresser for items acquired in game.

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Originally Posted by xAFROx

Throwing my two cents in here. I think the mogstation items should be capable of being placed in the armoire. That would save a lot of room in the glamour dresser for items acquired in game.

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The cynical side of me say they are not going to do that so that the player will be interested in buying more retainers. I mean, the person already spent some money on the mogshop, what's one more dollar a month? :^)

I always felt as if the existence of the armoire was convoluted and unnecessary. Not only are the armoire limits needlessly confusing, but you have to go through an extra step to add armoire items to glamour plates.

They should just remove the armoire completely and add its storage space to the regular dresser. With the upcoming storage increase this would give people 1200 spots in their dresser which I'm sure most people would be more than happy with.