Can we get more Jumping Puzzles please ?

I first fell in love with Jumping Puzzles in GW2 where i spent countless hours on completing them.

That's why i was really excited when i first encountered the Jumping Puzzle in Kugane or the event jumping puzzles.
I just wish there would be much more of them in FF14.
The world itself has enough space for more such puzzles and the costs to implement them is are rather low compared to other content.

I'm sure many other players would also love to see more Jumping Puzzles !

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Originally Posted by Chronotrigger

I first fell in love with Jumping Puzzles in GW2 where i spent countless hours on completing them.

That's why i was really excited when i first encountered the Jumping Puzzle in Kugane or the event jumping puzzles.
I just wish there would be much more of them in FF14.
The world itself has enough space for more such puzzles and the costs to implement them is are rather low compared to other content.

I'm sure many other players would also love to see more Jumping Puzzles !

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Do the one in Ratz-at-Han if you haven't yet. It's a really fun one with multiple directions you can take. It leads to a beautiful roof garden. c:

Please no, I absolutely hate jumping puzzles.

A lot of aether currents in SB involved jumping puzzles and it was torture. After that they started making currents easier and easier to get, so they did move away from that.

there's a jumping tower in Shirogane too btw, the lighthouse or something.

Can we get some better physics for them first? Having to figure out which platforms let you stand two feet off the edge, which ones require pixel-perfect landings, which overhangs you can jump through vs which ones will push you away, and whatever other odd quirks are in the way, isn't much fun to me.

I can't do a jump puzzle to save my life, but they make a lot of people happy and I can tell it's very fun for them even if they fall a bunch of times since once they finally get to the top, they feel a bit proud and even take little victory screenshots. I think it's very cute. Cute, harmless, wholesome fun. So even more of them would be great. Bigger challenges too, for those who are quite skilled at it.

I know, I know.. 'waah but I cant do it noww mememe since i cant do it they need to stop it!!' Awful mindset to have. Let others enjoy things.
'well if they just fixed the game-!!' and if I could just be 1 foot taller everything would change for me too, I get it. Let others enjoy things anyway.

While I love jumping puzzles, especially from GW2, the jumping engine/bounding boxes in FFXIV are not built for them. They need to severely overhaul how jumping even works. You can see what I mean in Kugane, or especially after clearing the 2.0 sightseeing log.

So, while I agree, I also caution to keep in mind what this would mean and what would be needed to make actual enjoyable content. As is, the jumping engine (and to an extent their racing engine) are just not well designed.

It's like trying to host a Lan Party at your house using janky wi-fi. It's not that the game itself is bad, it's that the hardware to support play needs work to make it enjoyable/playable.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Can we get some better physics for them first? Having to figure out which platforms let you stand two feet off the edge, which ones require pixel-perfect landings, which overhangs you can jump through vs which ones will push you away, and whatever other odd quirks are in the way, isn't much fun to me.

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That's exactly why I hate jumping puzzles in XIV. GW2 was build for it, here it isn't. Kugane Tower was horrible and I hope it does in a fire.

Make next expac have jumping savage.

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Jumping puzzles are fun. I had a lot of fun doing all of SWTOR's many, Rift had a few that were fun, and the simple puzzle in XIV's Falcon's nest was also fun - the Aether up on the bridge less so. heh.

Youtube of 'Cat on a Cold Stone Roof'

I think I have a neko in my genes, in all MMOs I am the sort who wants to get to the high, impossible to reach places.

I hope we see many more, for people who like them!

The way jumps work in GW2 makes the jumping puzzles more fun. With how ffxiv works i haven't even bothered with kugane tower.

And I've done the diving challenge for hidden base in GW2 where you got to finish a jumping puzzle, then jump blindly through a fake wall into a tiny pond.

I preferred the 1.0 Z axis.

PLEASE only if they're optional
I hate them and they don't even work right in this game
Half the stops involve jumping on thin air and hoping for the best

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Please no, I absolutely hate jumping puzzles.

A lot of aether currents in SB involved jumping puzzles and it was torture. After that they started making currents easier and easier to get, so they did move away from that.

there's a jumping tower in Shirogane too btw, the lighthouse or something.

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If you hate them - then just don't do them.

There were no aether currents in SB which required jumping puzzles, this is simply untrue - for one because these puzzles are always in zones which don't allow flight to begin with, as it would defeat the entire point of the puzzle.
You are mistaking aether currents with vistas, which are 100% optional. They don't even lock you out of the painting rewards, as those are tradeable on MB.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

Half the stops involve jumping on thin air and hoping for the best

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The worst part of the jump puzzles is having to abuse the invisible platforms to position for the start of your jump while simultaneously having to avoid hitting your head or shoulder on an invisible box in the middle of your jump. Our jump puzzles are not designed well.

If you enjoy jumping puzzles, go do them in GW2. They are a ton of fun and I love them as well.

But I love them in GW2 because the game was designed for them. Controlling your character while jumping is designed like a platformer. In FFXIV, you have no control over your character once they are airborne and the jumps are up in the air as to whether they will work the way you want them to or not. Can you land on that thing over there? Who knows! Is that awning going to get in my way like the last one did? Nope, not this one for no explainable reason!

I'd much rather the developers work on fixing things like jumping physics, terrain, invisible walls, etc first before they start wasting more time on jumping puzzles. Just like I'd have an issue if FFXIV suddenly had a FPS shooter section. It would play terribly due to the engine and the way this game works. But I still love FPS shooters.

As long as it's optional. I've had enough gw2 manditory jumping puzzles for six life times.

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Originally Posted by Satarn

If you hate them - then just don't do them.

There were no aether currents in SB which required jumping puzzles, this is simply untrue - for one because these puzzles are always in zones which don't allow flight to begin with, as it would defeat the entire point of the puzzle.
You are mistaking aether currents with vistas, which are 100% optional. They don't even lock you out of the painting rewards, as those are tradeable on MB.

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" for one because these puzzles are always in zones which don't allow flight to begin with, as it would defeat the entire point of the puzzle."
uh, hard to fly when you don't have the currents, don't you think? Also if you're telling me all the jumps required to get to some, like the infamous one in The Lochs, weren't jumping puzzles, idk what you're on. Not all jumping puzzles are of the magniture of Kugane Tower one, you know? Something that needs a series of calculated and precise jumps to reach IS a jumping puzzles.

And sure, if you hate them don't do them, easy to say. In that case, they would have to make them not tied to absolutely any current or vista. And then people would complain they went crazy to do some awful jump puzzle and got nothing out of it (except for those very few who actually enjoy them).

Do you get an achievement for jumping puzzles? I hope you do. I can't stand them, but for those of you who like them- I hope they give you that. Seems like there could be some entertaining titles related to those.

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

Do you get an achievement for jumping puzzles? I hope you do. I can't stand them, but for those of you who like them- I hope they give you that. Seems like there could be some entertaining titles related to those.

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No achievements outside of Leap of Faith, but that's ok. They're fun on their own.

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Originally Posted by Floortank

No achievements outside of Leap of Faith, but that's ok. They're fun on their own.

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Not entirely true. There are sightseeing log achievements, and you need to do some jumping puzzles to get some of the points.

Didn't there used to be one in costa del sol for the event? Last year it wasn't there, so never got to do that one.

Anyway ya can't please everyone obviously, but I'm not sure why anyone would be against adding more puzzles. If you don't like them, don't do them? When I first started doing kugane it took me like 2 hours to get to the top, and after practicing here and there, now I can do it in 1 minute from the bridge w/just pelo.

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Originally Posted by ehbiwtf

Didn't there used to be one in costa del sol for the event? Last year it wasn't there, so never got to do that one.

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I wish they'd add an instanced version of that to the Gold Saucer.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

The worst part of the jump puzzles is having to abuse the invisible platforms to position for the start of your jump while simultaneously having to avoid hitting your head or shoulder on an invisible box in the middle of your jump. Our jump puzzles are not designed well.

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I actually have a solution for this! For some reason, I'm never where I seem to be on screen! So I can never do these right, but I DID still need the sightseeing logs, so what I did was!! Marry someone who's great at them, and then when they get to the top, I used the Eternity Ring to teleport right there too and get the log. Remember everyone, marry wisely. Both in real life and in game!

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Originally Posted by Batbrat

I actually have a solution for this! For some reason, I'm never where I seem to be on screen! So I can never do these right, but I DID still need the sightseeing logs, so what I did was!! Marry someone who's great at them, and then when they get to the top, I used the Eternity Ring to teleport right there too and get the log. Remember everyone, marry wisely. Both in real life and in game!

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That's what i did, actually xD But not before getting very frustrated trying to do it for hours and never being able to get past the first two jumps and giving up for several months after.
And for the ones not as far up, you can self-destruct with BLU and the ressed up there. Like, to get on the balcony of the blacksmith house.

Oh, OP, apart from the mentioned Leap of Faith at the Golden Saucer, another jumping puzzle you can always do if you have an house with garden is the mini-Heaven on High. Or in general with a garden you can set up items in a way to build jumping puzzles. They always did it at my old fc.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

That's exactly why I hate jumping puzzles in XIV. GW2 was build for it, here it isn't. Kugane Tower was horrible and I hope it does in a fire.

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Either way jumping is more realistic here. We cannot move in the air while in GW2 you can.
I do agree it's more fun in GW2. Breaking boundaries?

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

uh, hard to fly when you don't have the currents, don't you think? Also if you're telling me all the jumps required to get to some, like the infamous one in The Lochs, weren't jumping puzzles, idk what you're on.

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Uh, what? The lochs one? Where, which one? Even back then there was 2 seater mounts so you get it without jumping. Are you sure your not talking about a vista?

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Originally Posted by kaynide

While I love jumping puzzles, especially from GW2, the jumping engine/bounding boxes in FFXIV are not built for them. They need to severely overhaul how jumping even works. You can see what I mean in Kugane, or especially after clearing the 2.0 sightseeing log.

So, while I agree, I also caution to keep in mind what this would mean and what would be needed to make actual enjoyable content. As is, the jumping engine (and to an extent their racing engine) are just not well designed.

It's like trying to host a Lan Party at your house using janky wi-fi. It's not that the game itself is bad, it's that the hardware to support play needs work to make it enjoyable/playable.

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In my opinion part of the fun is to figure out how to do the jumping puzzle with the possibilties that are available to you.
The Engine is part of this and while you can complain that there are other games with more suitable Engines, it will not change the fact that more jumping puzzles in FF14 would provide a lot of fun.

I also agree that jumping puzzles should be purely optional.

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hat's exactly why I hate jumping puzzles in XIV. GW2 was build for it, here it isn't. Kugane Tower was horrible and I hope it does in a fire.

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OT: If you find KT horrible than you have probably never tried some of the more challenging GW2 jumping puzzles XD

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Can we get some better physics for them first? Having to figure out which platforms let you stand two feet off the edge, which ones require pixel-perfect landings, which overhangs you can jump through vs which ones will push you away, and whatever other odd quirks are in the way, isn't much fun to me.

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All of this. It's not much of a puzzle if you never know when the engine is going to function correctly and when it arbitrarily won't.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

uh, hard to fly when you don't have the currents, don't you think? Also if you're telling me all the jumps required to get to some, like the infamous one in The Lochs, weren't jumping puzzles, idk what you're on. Not all jumping puzzles are of the magniture of Kugane Tower one, you know? Something that needs a series of calculated and precise jumps to reach IS a jumping puzzles.

And sure, if you hate them don't do them, easy to say. In that case, they would have to make them not tied to absolutely any current or vista. And then people would complain they went crazy to do some awful jump puzzle and got nothing out of it (except for those very few who actually enjoy them).

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1) Two-sitter mounts exist, people use them to speed-up unlocking aether currents all the time.

2) Can't be all that "infamous" because I have literally no clue what you are talking about. Sounds like you've just got some personal hangup about it and just assumed everyone else must've felt the same. Even if there was something that required a couple jumps, that's hardly some big deal. There's always bound to be a couple quests or whatever in the MSQ you dislike and you have to do them all the same. As long as it's not actually taking a lot of your time you're just being dramatic.

3) Why can't vistas be tied to them? The entire point of vistas is that they're in some odd spots, often somewhat difficult to reach. You don't need vistas for anything other than getting the vistas, even the paintings which they unlock you can just buy from somebody else. It's like saying you don't like that you need to clear savage to get the savage clearing achievement. It's just hella entitled.
And why would people complain about them if they truly didn't even give anything at all, not even vistas? Is it you? Are you just projecting because you would be somehow bothered by it?

Jumping in GW2 felt a lot more fluid and physical, in FFXIV if you jump you can't adjust your trajectory making jumping puzzles not feel as good.

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Originally Posted by ehbiwtf

Didn't there used to be one in costa del sol for the event? Last year it wasn't there, so never got to do that one.

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It went away after they added flying to the ARR zones; with flight, the Costa Del Sol puzzle -- which was normally just out there, in the open world -- wouldn't have worked, since people could've just flown to the top.

Made me a little sad, because I liked that one. But then, I'm one of those crazy people who climbs Kugane Tower repeatedly for fun, so... maybe take my opinion there with a large grain of salt.