is SE duping Crystals?

I spend considerable amount of time farming Gil so I can buy bigger plot in 6.1 And I find that Wind Crystals sell like hot cakes. I use my gatherer retainers to farm them and every 40 minutes, they bring a nice chunks of it. Until recently all was fine, but lately I notice that a retainer named Roktaini is flooding an entire Chaos datacentre with tens of thousands of the said item on a daily basis,. And I wonder, is this SE duping? or some gilseller/bot with characters on all Chaos worlds? I find it most intriguing.

A botter noticed that they were selling and decided to flood the market. It happens.

Gatherer bots, nothing new, been in the game since 2.0

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Originally Posted by Escalon

Gatherer bots, nothing new, been in the game since 2.0

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well for what it's worth (probably not much), I made a report to investigate the owner of the said retainer. Not holding my breath at all though, but you never know..

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Originally Posted by HuaTuo

well for what it's worth (probably not much), I made a report to investigate the owner of the said retainer. Not holding my breath at all though, but you never know..

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Yeah, there is literally no point in even reporting them anymore.

You will get a warning/banned in the span of hours if you insult someone, for that the GMs are responsive and good. Anything else, is just a joke, hackers, stalkers, bots you name it.

IMO this is why it's best to have a variety of items you gather and sell. I've been focusing on endwalker items and this happens regularly - possible-botter floods the market till it goes down to 300 gil per (or less) for a while. I have a "cut off" price where I stop selling the items for a while, until it goes so low they lose interest. But I keep my stock ready so that when it goes back up (sometimes to over 1k per!) I'm there and ready to take advantage of it.

Also works out because, lacking a bot army, it means I can focus on the stuff that's actually selling and, without said army, which takes up all my time to gather anyways.

Yeah, tho what really baffles me, is that it's ENTIRE Chaos datacentre. Same item, same retainer name. Completely broken this is..

I noticed a while ago that there's a bot on each server of Aether that does nothing but rotate between the Stormblood ephemeral nodes 24/7, using aetherial reduction to farm crystals/clusters.

Their FCs use a similar naming scheme so it's painfully obvious they're connected, but as mentioned, reporting them didn't do squat.

I dont see how this has to be botting, i have 9999 on me, my 4 retainers have 9999, my fc chest has 9999. I used to sell them just off of the aether reduction i used to do to get aethersands. Its really easy to have a massive amount of them.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

I dont see how this has to be botting, i have 9999 on me, my 4 retainers have 9999, my fc chest has 9999. I used to sell them just off of the aether reduction i used to do to get aethersands. Its really easy to have a massive amount of them.

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It's mostly the "on every single Chaos server" part that makes it rather suspicious.

if you reported it to a GM, they have zero power to do anything.

if you reported it to the STF (4 person team in Japan) they will file it in a special folder.

documented bot crafter/retainer combos selling across data centers have been reported ad nauseum and yet, they are still around happily collecting gil to sell

is it cheating? yes
is it against the ToS? yes
is it generating gil for RMT? yes

is SE doing much about it? no.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

It's mostly the "on every single Chaos server" part that makes it rather suspicious.

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Indeed, on every world on an entire Chaos datacentre, retainer named Roktaini is dumping tens of thousands Wind crystals. I have made further discoveries. Not long ago, this botter tried to sell his motherlode all at once, so I kept undercutting him, until he would just buy my stacks. I'm 100% sure it's him since my stacks were bought out the instant I put them in 1gil cheaper after about an hour of baiting him to lower the price while I watched the item using the "compare price" on my other retainers (I got 10, all farming crystals as long as I'm online), and whacked a stack one after another 1 gil under his as he was trying to get under my other retainers. In the end, he thought he MUST sell his stuff NOW, so he put them ridiculously cheap, but I still undercut him xD At which point he bought my stuff the moment I put them on. Turns out, it's a level 16 sprout character. Not sure how's the naming and shaming on these forums, so lets just keep it at that. Surprise surprise! It's probably just a relay, collecting on behalf of an entire botter army. How does SE lets this stand is beyond me...