So what are now (Massive EW spoilers DO NOT ENTER)

So now that Hydalen/Venat are no longer and we seem to have kinda used up the magic of Azem's crystal what are we now

I mean we aren't really the warrior of light anymore, tho I think we still have the echo as that is unrelated

Any thoughts?

I think for all intents and purposes taking us back to our roots as being an obscenely powerful adventurer/hero is really nice, as opposed to this whole 'Warrior of Light' thing going on indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by Andy_T93

So now that Hydalen/Venat are no longer and we seem to have kinda used up the magic of Azem's crystal what are we now

I mean we aren't really the warrior of light anymore, tho I think we still have the echo as that is unrelated

Any thoughts?

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We still have the echo and all that yeah also the azem crystal is spent of the magic hydaelyn gave us before her death[which we used to reform the scions souls], but yeah we arent the warrior of light anymore or hydaelyns champion and all that, we are back to being just an adventurer[albeit still very popular and powerful]

I just want to be a normal adventurer again. Just going out there and discovering new stuff. I also don't want to have another big threat to arise that only I could stop. At least for a whole expansion.

If its true and our azem crystals magic is spent then this is probably going to cost us big time in pandemonium. Yeah we are strong we are powerful but so are our enemies, most likely.
But yeah adventurer life, sounds good to me too.

I want zenos to be our vegeta.

I honestly feel like the loss of our super special Hydaelyn powers isn't that big of a deal. We beat up Hydaelyn, then the very incarnation of despair, THEN Zenos in one big fight-hopping train. At this point... what is even left that can challenge us, seriously?

At this point of the story it would feel silly to just go back to being a simple adventurer. You don't go from slapping elder gods and oblivion made manifest to carrying crates and hunting rats.

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Originally Posted by Mortime

At this point of the story it would feel silly to just go back to being a simple adventurer. You don't go from slapping elder gods and oblivion made manifest to carrying crates and hunting rats.

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True story, but we are still the reincarnation of Azem, the traveler. Anywho and anywhere help is needed we'll be there to help right? Well aside from doing fetch quests... those took a toll on us and the WoL ^^"

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Originally Posted by Mortime

At this point of the story it would feel silly to just go back to being a simple adventurer. You don't go from slapping elder gods and oblivion made manifest to carrying crates and hunting rats.

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Well…that’s the definition of humble, though. Like Superman still does stuff like that even though he’s the most powerful thing on the planet.

And speaking of Superman, there’s always new threats for him to face. And the universe is a big place. We’ve just seen it. Who knows what might be lurking out there for our characters to face.

And we’re not as powerful as we once were without Venat backing us up. At least I don’t think.

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Originally Posted by Orieldis

IAt this point... what is even left that can challenge us, seriously?

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A queue. :O

I guess, SQEX will create new enemies. There are more shards out there. And Zodiark is still not completely dead. :)


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Emet-Selch mentioned corners of Eorzea we haven't yet explored, including the whole continent of Myracedia. That's a start.

WoL is Azem and that doesn't depend on the crystal's power or Hydaelyn herself. From a narration standpoint we're not the WoL anymore but to Eorzea and the world that's what we're known us so we're keeping the title. What comes next? Ishikawa knows only. We may visit another of the shard or move to a whole new continent out of Eorzea to which we're a nobody. There are endless possibilities pf where we go next.

If any writers can successfully pull of an arc where we are back to just being adventurers again, and actually make it work, its FFXIV's writers. They can and should do that.

We still have other shards we can visit, plus the entire southern continent which could have a lot of rich lore to be added to the game. The skies the limit with all the stuff they can do.

We used up Hydaelyn's magic that was stored in the Azem crystal. The regular magic inside the crystal should still be there I think. Regardless, as the traveler we're set to travel and Emet conveniently gave us a new sight seeing log so I think theres the safest bet lol

We don't really need Hydaelyn anymore. We're a 8th rejoined powered up entity capable of crossing dimensions and time travel. In terms of pure experience and ability, we tower above everyone else. That said, it looks like our next adventure would be going back to Elpis and trying to pull off a Crystal Exarch and change their history. There's also the whole mystery of dynamis to go into.

I like the idea of and am glad they sort of went with the notion that for the time being we are just a strong adventurer. Now that our big bad adventure is “done”, we can eventually start another without having the world rely on us to save them. At least not yet.

I am guessing we lost the Blessing of Light, so we will probably carry one of the scales just to make sure, we still got the Echo due to it being a heritage of our Amourantine soul(Azem) and I am guessing we are still the "Warrior of Light", as they said in the first, Warrior of Light became synonym with "Hero", but we are basically super-omega-hyper-powerful adventurers more than anything now.

We are just 7.1% denser than other members of the source.

It's just a move to self contained xpac narratives.

While the crystal's powers may be spent, I believe we still benefit from her blessing. She may not be able to directly intervene on our behalf anymore, like she did several times before (like in Praetorium during ARR where she shields us from Ultima), but we're still immune to Primal influence and whatever else her blessing entails. We know Ancient's magic can persist after death (see 'Amaurot'), so I see no reason for Her blessing to suddenly go POOF!

We're the only half-ascian left in the universe!

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Originally Posted by LystAP

That said, it looks like our next adventure would be going back to Elpis and trying to pull off a Crystal Exarch and change their history.

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This seems to be the prevailing theory on the Pandæmonium teaser, but I choose to believe that the different sky means it actually takes place in the Aetherial Sea, with Elidibus there now because he used the last of his power.

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Originally Posted by Lexis

While the crystal's powers may be spent, I believe we still benefit from her blessing. She may not be able to directly intervene on our behalf anymore, like she did several times before (like in Praetorium during ARR where she shields us from Ultima), but we're still immune to Primal influence and whatever else her blessing entails. We know Ancient's magic can persist after death (see 'Amaurot'), so I see no reason for Her blessing to suddenly go POOF!

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It was never a blessing, Venet used a powerful spell to make our aether incorruptible

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

It's just a move to self contained xpac narratives.

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Which if I'm not mistaken is a Final Fantasy norm, right? I've never played any of the other games in the series, but have been told each is its own thing and not connected to any of the other games.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

It was never a blessing, Venet used a powerful spell to make our aether incorruptible

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Which we've come to know as 'Hydaelyn's Blessing', aka a powerful spell placed upon us by Her. We're talking about the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Lium

Which if I'm not mistaken is a Final Fantasy norm, right? I've never played any of the other games in the series, but have been told each is its own thing and not connected to any of the other games.

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There's only one other MMO with which to compare, but XI did have a structure kind of like this. The first two expansions were planned out from the start and their stories are heavily tied up together, and at the end you understand most of how the world was created and why the things are the way they are now (which is indeed a series staple). Then from the third expansion onward, there are still references to other things you've done and other people you've met, but the stories are mostly self-contained.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino

We're the only half-ascian left in the universe!

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There's still Gaia over on the First.

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Originally Posted by Andy_T93

So now that Hydalen/Venat are no longer and we seem to have kinda used up the magic of Azem's crystal what are we now

I mean we aren't really the warrior of light anymore, tho I think we still have the echo as that is unrelated

Any thoughts?

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They clearly say yo you at several occasions during EW that we don't really know what happened with the 12 when Bahamut wrecked havoc between the 1.X and ARR. So it may be possible some of our strength wasn't simply Hydaelyn's boon.

Elidibus said what we are, in our Fight on the first.

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Originally Posted by Sorimachi87

If its true and our azem crystals magic is spent then this is probably going to cost us big time in pandemonium. Yeah we are strong we are powerful but so are our enemies, most likely.
But yeah adventurer life, sounds good to me too.

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the only magic that was spent was the one Hydaelyn gave us in the end, which she said wouldnt last long and we used said magic to restore our friends, Azems crystal overall still does what it normally does, Hades's words just before his final departure seem to indicate as such, as the holder of the azem crystal yada yada travel the world its your thing n such.

We still have Azem's crystal, the only thing that was spent was the limited amounts of Creation Magick that Hydaelyn/Venat put into it when we recreated the Scions bodies. (Also, on the note on of that, can we agree that the WoL is an asshole for not giving Y'Shtola working eyes or Thancred the ability to use Aether when remaking their bodies)

We can still use our own spell to use the crystal to summon up to 7 other people when needed.


The main thing that might really change is Hydaelyn's protections over the WoL not being there any more. I don't think we had any special power ups from her as the WoL's insane levels of power are probably more realistically explained that the fact that we've basically been an Ascian all along without anyone, even the other Ascians ,realizing it.

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Originally Posted by Sathona

the only magic that was spent was the one Hydaelyn gave us in the end, which she said wouldnt last long and we used said magic to restore our friends, Azems crystal overall still does what it normally does, Hades's words just before his final departure seem to indicate as such, as the holder of the azem crystal yada yada travel the world its your thing n such.

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I see. Thanks for the clarification :)

I hope we just become an adventurer again. I'm doing some older content (armorer class quest from heavenward) which focuses on the interpersonal drama on a small adventuring party. I'd like to see more stories like that. Where we adventure around Eorzea and help those in need. There's still a lot of wrong to right.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

It's just a move to self contained xpac narratives.

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Nope they have a whole NEW chain narrative in the works. We managed to defeat the source of the Final days but there's still the consequences of it left all over the place to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Andy_T93

So now that Hydalen/Venat are no longer and we seem to have kinda used up the magic of Azem's crystal what are we now

I mean we aren't really the warrior of light anymore, tho I think we still have the echo as that is unrelated

Any thoughts?

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We are still Azem the Sundered, warrior of light, warrior of darkness. Small chance we might collect the rest of azem and become Azem and be able to wear the mask. I THOUGHT Diablos was our otherself from 13 but....