So Ive been a sub since Heavensward. Never dropped a sub, always supported. If you anyone wants Im happy to share pic.
Im a worker a father with limited time. Yes Yes you have read this many times before by now. I dont care. Its just another voice. I feel I have to express it.
Ive always bought the pre expansions things, some bumps on the road, who here remembers Raubahn Ex or Pipin EX? xD
Im a supporter of FFXIV, great great MMORPG, but my problem is very simple.
I cant play it. I cant play it... My life doesnt allow me to be in queue for 4 hours so then I can go in. Plus when it happens, it gets me in a bad mood.. waiting 4 hours to get inside? by the time im inside im super frustrated and not in the right spirited to follow a heavy narrative mmorpg that I would LOVE to experience, read every dialogue, fully immerse myself.. if I could just play it.
So SE just a simple costumer saying that most probably since I started my continued nonestop sub since Heavenward I prob will stop it. Until I can log in with a normal less than 500 ppl queue.
I dont want to, but the truth is I simple cant play your game. I cant log in on my allocated gametime.
Your sincerely,
Just another costumer and fan of FFXIV
Another one.. haters hate it is what it is
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12-13-2021, 07:53 AMJibAnother one.. haters hate it is what it is
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12-13-2021, 07:58 AMTriggers
No one should hate on you posting this. It's you exercising your voice as a customer that's been sold an unsatisfactory product/experience. I'm personally tired of people on this forum crying about people like yourself being unhappy. The community needs to be heard and the volume of their dissatisfaction needs to be noted. That's the only way the requisite motivation for a fix gets implemented.
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12-13-2021, 08:01 AMShibi
Unsubbing for a month or so is likely a good move for many people.
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12-13-2021, 08:02 AMSionDurantI've been getting 20002 for the past 2 hours straight, I can't get anywhere near through the queue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jib
Don't tell me it's my network either - I have 350 MBPs or higher consistently and suffer no latency issues. -
12-13-2021, 08:02 AMArazehl
I agree, this the truth and the thoughts of many who's been with the game over the years.
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12-13-2021, 08:44 AMCatwhoAgreed. If there was a way to pause subscriptions for people who can only play in prime time, until either the population stabilizes or they can get the OCE data center online, that would be ideal as well. But a lot of folks are locked into six months subscriptions, and there is no way to put it on hold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shibi
For those who do pay monthly, though, unsubbing is not a bad idea. SE announced that they suspended housing demolition in lieu of the login issues, so that's one less thing to worry about. -
12-13-2021, 08:46 AMshiroxkatsuya
No one should hate you for this. You obviously have alot of love and passion for the game, the log in servers are just total butt right now. It’s totally understandable to take a step back until things improve.
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12-13-2021, 09:04 AMryouma17thats my lineQuote:
Originally Posted by Jib
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12-13-2021, 09:11 AMKandraxx
As of now you can’t play this game with a 9 to 5 job, unless you have someone at home to log you in (and keep you logged in) before late afternoon. My friend has that problem as well, comes home at about 5.30pm every day, 4 hours queue, he would be able to look at his character and log out again because bedtime.
It’s a combination of factors, first that C word we all love by now, the death of WoW and the unavailability of hardware. -
12-13-2021, 10:41 AMNishaSetsuya
I have been saying that to a lot of other people and i'll say it again, you don't need to keep being subbed to FFXIV since there is no FOMO. Everyone know the server is a mess so you don't need to justify yourself and tbf what are you going to lose right now ? The MSQ will still be there when you return, the extreme and savage content will still be relevent even after month, quitting the game for a few month will not hurt you in anyways
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12-13-2021, 10:47 AMArazehl
I get that the 2002 errors are horrible and something needs to be done. What I don't get is those claiming it to be an unplayable game, while posting while their character is well above level 80. Is that being a bit hypocritical?
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12-13-2021, 10:51 AMRinaB
I was in between jobs during the shb early access and I swear my queue was never higher then 500. I got on life was good. Finished msq, started a new job and life was better. Ew is like physical torture and the queue makes me feel like a child with a parent only allowing me to play 2 hours a day before work. I hate this. I dont care about the white knights for square or any big corporation. A shit product is shit. "Its not shit its just the queues breh" yeah? That's a huge problem considering it's the gate keeper to said product.
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12-13-2021, 10:57 AMnighttimebunny
this is sad. :( I wish they would actually do something about this issue
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12-13-2021, 11:13 AMJin-Speed doesn't mean anything for online gaming. It's the packet loss and jitter which defines the quality. You can have very quick but with a lot of packet loss making it bad. Just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by SionDurant
The mailman is not good if he drops some letters on the way and those letters might contain critical information. -
12-13-2021, 01:34 PMQT_MelonWhen they say it's not them, and its your end...they don't mean your internet speed specifically but how the provider is routed to reach their servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by SionDurant
Okay...like what are they not doing? What specifically in your expertise in IT is it that they aren't doing that is definitely within their grasp?Quote:
Originally Posted by nighttimebunny
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12-13-2021, 01:41 PMRinaBI dont think you white knights are capable of understanding the simple fact that this all could have been diverted and eased long before ew. People have paid for a service they are not getting and shouldn't have to charge their entire lives based on the mistakes of a company who promised and didn't deliver. The only people who look ridiculous in these threads are the ones yelling at people for not accepting completely unacceptable standards and aren't praying to the yoshi shrine they built in their bedroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by QT_Melon
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12-13-2021, 01:48 PMRyuDragnierSo the ones wanting people to review bomb the game, comparing IT to pharmaceutical, and wanting to report bomb somebody who disagrees with them are NOT looking ridiculous?Quote:
Originally Posted by RinaB
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12-13-2021, 01:54 PMHyoMinParkThey did? I don’t think I saw a Lodestone post about this—do you have a link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwho
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12-13-2021, 01:56 PMBlud3y3z
You are 100% right in feeling this way. I myself an waiting for my sub to run out. This is a story based game and to play in such a sporadic manner is ruining it for me. Not to mention there is NO fix to this beyond more/better servers which is absolutely no where in sight. People quitting isn't going to have an effect unless it happens in the tens of thousands (at least on my DC), so stepping away is the only option. Especially since this could go on well into next spring or summer with the supply chain being what it is.
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12-13-2021, 01:58 PMKnot_Dhttps://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...b5258c95eda939Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
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12-13-2021, 02:05 PMRinaBDon't put words in my mouth. I'm saying don't defend mediocrity. Theres enough of that going on in the real world and it never does anyone any favors.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
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12-13-2021, 02:10 PMBrennus
OP, you're right, and many share your frustrations. I too am trying to figure out what to do with the game at this point. I've only been able to play because my work does not require a 9-5 schedule, but the long queues, the repeated 2002 errors, being kicked back to the end of the line, all of that has taken its toll. It's 9 PM my time now, on a Sunday evening, so far I've been able to stay logged in only for 40 minutes or so, again after a long, long wait starting from early afternoon today.
I might do what others have recommended here: unsub for a month or so, until the queues have subsided, the drop-off errors fixed. It's a shame. I might resub to WoW during that time, and I cringe at the thought. But I'll have to do something, it's just too frustrating to continue hoping day after day that FF14 will get better, and that I can access the content I've paid for fair and square. -
12-13-2021, 02:12 PMLittleImpBased on what we've learned about the queue system, its design needed to be fundamentally revisited in anticipation of being bombarded with completely unprecedented numbers of users.Quote:
Originally Posted by QT_Melon
A large portion of what is frustrating people is a software problem which is actually strictly within SE's domain to fix. The problem is that it is something that may need time to address, and should have been fixed well ahead of time, rather than SE taking a gamble. -
12-13-2021, 02:20 PMSamsaraTrickstarTo miss the end game for 6.0 and 6.1? OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Shibi
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12-13-2021, 02:28 PMHyoMinParkUnsubbing for a month wouldn’t cause you to miss 6.1. That won’t come out until late March/early April at the earliest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar
That said, it’s sad that this is a ponderable solution. I’m curious how long these queues are going to last. I wonder how they’ll be when Pandaemonium normal mode drops… -
12-13-2021, 02:35 PMRyuDragnierWasn't putting words in your mouth, just pointing out that the people being ridiculous the most seem to be the ones most outraged...assuming they're not trolling (it can hard to be tell right now).Quote:
Originally Posted by RinaB
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12-13-2021, 02:43 PMDionysius
JP servers are free from congestion even during peak hour maybe 15m waiting. Not saying this is the best solution right now but maybe worth giving it a thought?
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12-13-2021, 02:46 PMFyrebrand
As a so-called "white knight" who has chided other complaints that were basically just cringey whining, I have to say I completely support this post. It is clear, honest, based, mature, and understandable. This has been a bad situation for us all, and I don't blame you for wanting to unsub. Peak hours are peak hours for a reason, and most of us don't have a choice but to try and play during that time. The current login queue is unreasonable, and I am with you that even if I still had time after all that wait I just emotionally might be so soured on the game that I wouldn't want to anymore.
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12-13-2021, 02:54 PMQT_MelonI keep hearing the same talking points, but not actually pinpointing the actual issue. Just a bunch of assumptions. I don't think that's White Knighting. I ASKED with their experience since the assumption was "they did nothing" what is it exactly they should have done since now everyone's some kind of expert as to what's going on. I mean the US government can't even figure out how to fix the supply lines for the logistics industry at the moment and neither can the companies knee deep in the mess of distributing the cargo.Quote:
Originally Posted by RinaB
So you will have to excuse me while I'm a bit irritated over the same arguments and not a lot of well researched solutions to the matter. I mean right now another post is about ONE guy's google docs with admitted "amateur" investigation. Not a team of people looking into the matter nor did he exactly have backup parties researching it and we take him for his word.
I know the client launcher is a bit outdated - it's using Internet Explorer still for PC. However, that's not for me to make the logical leap as to why it's quitting. Since PS4/PS5 is obviously NOT using Windows and IE. So it's not the same software on different platforms. For example the person who made the reddit post - was this tested on PC AND PS4 (and haha Mac?).Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleImp
I do think a change in how it authenticates so that you don't have to restart the client is something to definitely be investigated, but probably didn't have the foresight or the data to work with until now. That still is some time to fix. They already had to delay it for two weeks as is. I am just not assuming it's not being looked into or that they're doing "nothing" -
12-13-2021, 03:40 PMMyranyThis is the only way I have been able to play much at all. Fortunately I already had a character on a JP server that is only a little lower lvl than the one I am posting on. It is still annoying though as I want to be playing on my main.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dionysius
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12-13-2021, 03:45 PMShironeko_NarunyanAnd thus, another brand-new thread was born.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jib
That's what happens after 20 years. Be glad she does let you in still.Quote:
Plus when it happens, it gets me in a bad mood.. waiting 4 hours to get inside?
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It's not like I have no empathy for your situation, but there are already so many threads, you could have replied there to add your voice, yet you chose to open yet another one. -
12-13-2021, 04:32 PMSamsaraTrickstarYou miss the 4nd game as you won't be geared up. That if you got the gold for a brand new set of crafted for like 50m.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
As for how long,at last kin to mid of 6.1 to a year. As it start to be not as long by time.