Auto-Kick after 3min AFK please

Please put timer down for auto-kick to about 3 min afk or so, at least during prime times. Maybe it can reduce queue problems a little bit.

3 min?? That's pretty unreasonable. What if I need to poop?

People who run scripts or have things set up to cheat the system won't be affected. A system like this would likely only hurt honest players who have to AFK more than 3 minutes to use the restroom, or deal with pets, kids, and other responsibilities they can't avoid and need to legitimately AFK a little while to deal with things in.

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Originally Posted by Cadmar

3 min?? That's pretty unreasonable. What if I need to poop?

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then you can requeue after poop and it won't take so long again.

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Originally Posted by Pokelong

Please put timer down for auto-kick to about 3 min afk or so, at least during prime times. Maybe it can reduce queue problems a little bit.

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Are you telling people they can't use the bathroom - grab a drink of water - eat a snack - stand up to stretch?

That's basically advocating for unhealthy habits and discourages briefly breaking up gameplay with healthy self-sustaining habits.

I think the issue is people can easily avoid the current afk measures through simple physical measures which are not software related. Apart from the game becoming extremely unpopular were probably going to be stuck with error 2002 for awhile.

What SE could do however is introduce CAPTCHA or variants of it in-game perhaps every hour or so (only while servers are having 2002 errors due to congestion) and not while in a duty/instance to filter out people who are actually afk but dodging.

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Originally Posted by Pokelong

Please put timer down for auto-kick to about 3 min afk or so, at least during prime times. Maybe it can reduce queue problems a little bit.

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That would be one hell of a way to get people to stop doing their basic necessities only so they can play more.

That or use and abuse anti-afk methods.

How would this help queues? The people kicked out would just immediately be queuing back in, and you'd be faced with all the same congestion errors.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

Are you telling people they can't use the bathroom - grab a drink of water - eat a snack - stand up to stretch?

That's basically advocating for unhealthy habits and discourages briefly breaking up gameplay with healthy self-sustaining habits.

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You're completely right, but you don't even have to go that far to find fault with this suggestion. There are roulette queues longer than 3 minutes, among other things.

I can't tell if this thread is supposed to be a joke but if it's not, the idea wasn't thought out very much.

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Originally Posted by Pokelong

then you can requeue after poop and it won't take so long again.

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Great idea. Log out to take a 5 mins bathroom break and wait 3 hours to get back in game. NO WAY. 30 mins is a good time. People need to take breaks here and there for restroom, get drink stretch, etc. SE determined 30 min was reasonable and it is.

Not to mention duty ques are more than 3 minutes.

This would only penalize legit players and further make people use anti afk methods to avoid being kicked.

I doubt this is a serious thread, but just in case, this would make the queue much worse rather than better. The queue is huge because everyone is trying to get on at once, not because the server is "full" and can't let any more people in. If people got kicked out more frequently, then there would be even more people trying to log in all at once.

30 minutes is a great medium amount of time that keeps the servers from actually filling up with people who are truly not playing while also keeping people who are just grabbing something to eat or going to the bathroom from clogging up the queue itself.

They should just add a report player function like they have for rtm sellers for those using mythods to bypass the auto afk logout. There accounts should be permanently banned.

They need a 3 minute kick from this forum that I would support.

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Originally Posted by Cadmar

3 min?? That's pretty unreasonable. What if I need to poop?

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This is the first thing I thought of when I read this garbage...

Don't forget about being in cutscenes. Endwalker has some that run from 5-15mins(on auto-convo). Imagine being in one and then you get booped cuz there was no input from you after 3mins.

Desperation really makes for crazy ideas.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

Are you telling people they can't use the bathroom - grab a drink of water - eat a snack - stand up to stretch?

That's basically advocating for unhealthy habits and discourages briefly breaking up gameplay with healthy self-sustaining habits.

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I think this is the best response. We all know the queues suck, but your solution won't help fix the issue. People will just requeue after their 'break'.

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Originally Posted by Cadmar

3 min?? That's pretty unreasonable. What if I need to poop?

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I've been chugging Pepto bismol to avoid that scenario.

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Originally Posted by Cadmar

3 min?? That's pretty unreasonable. What if I need to poop?

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better get that gaming bucket

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Originally Posted by Pokelong

Please put timer down for auto-kick to about 3 min afk or so, at least during prime times. Maybe it can reduce queue problems a little bit.

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That's way too quick. 15 maybe.

How about we don't lmao

SE needs to address the elephant in the room and implement a program that verifies files and executables that might be affecting the game. That way you tackle in one fell swoop: bots, mod users, assist tool users (like ACT).

Any other fix other than that is a band aid fix that will get infected and start bleeding again next expansion.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

SE needs to address the elephant in the room and implement a program that verifies files and executables that might be affecting the game. That way you tackle in one fell swoop: bots, mod users, assist tool users (like ACT).

Any other fix other than that is a band aid fix that will get infected and start bleeding again next expansion.

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So you're fine letting a game see what other programs you're running? Because I'm sure as hell not.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

SE needs to address the elephant in the room and implement a program that verifies files and executables that might be affecting the game. That way you tackle in one fell swoop: bots, mod users, assist tool users (like ACT).

Any other fix other than that is a band aid fix that will get infected and start bleeding again next expansion.

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Unless they find a way to make it so XIV itself can detect when unverified programs are attempting to interface with it without needing to utilize intrusive external software, that's sadly not going to happen.

They've already taken a hard stance on not using any kind of programs that scan the client's PC for unauthorized apps.

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Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl

So you're fine letting a game see what other programs you're running? Because I'm sure as hell not.

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Do you use Google, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Youtube, Snapchat, Tiktok, etc. etc. etc.? If you do, you are already being monitored. Just don't do illegal stuff and you don't have to worry. It's easy.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Do you use Google, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Youtube, Snapchat, Tiktok, etc. etc. etc.? If you do, you are already being monitored. Just don't do illegal stuff and you don't have to worry. It's easy.

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And people with half functioning brains take measures to mitigate how much that garbage can track you. Intentionally letting more in is asinine.

They can borrow servers from Dying MMO's xD.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

And people with half functioning brains take measures to mitigate how much that garbage can track you. Intentionally letting more in is asinine.

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The only measure you can take is to unplug your ethernet cable, sell all your possesions, cash only no credit card transactions, and buy a private island in the middle of the Pacific. And even then it would probably be too late.

Are you nuts? LMAO No way, sure maybe 30 mins is too long but 3 minutes is EXTREMELY unrealistic. We all hate the long queues, but yikes.

15-19min sounds reasonable. but 3 min is too short

200% sure this is a bait post. No one could possibly be that oblivious as to why three minutes would be absurd.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

SE needs to address the elephant in the room and implement a program that verifies files and executables that might be affecting the game. That way you tackle in one fell swoop: bots, mod users, assist tool users (like ACT).

Any other fix other than that is a band aid fix that will get infected and start bleeding again next expansion.

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File verification yes, snooping around the files on someone's computer absolutely not. We don't need any more mustache twirling, wannabe technocrats in the world.

Wonder how long until they just start automatically kicking everyone from the server at certain times of day again. Seems to be the only way to stop the AFK-evaders for a couple of minutes.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

The only measure you can take is to unplug your ethernet cable, sell all your possesions, cash only no credit card transactions, and buy a private island in the middle of the Pacific. And even then it would probably be too late.

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Ah yes, the only way to minimize how much a couple companies can track you is to completely sever all connection to the modern world. Thanks for making me feel better at least, sure I might be schizophrenic but I'm not that detached from reality.

Definitely no. 3 mins is too short. Around 15-30 mins is more reasonable.

Imagine if I'm playing on NA. I would try playing alt in Japan Elemental DC on peak hours. Just like what i did on WoW days. Toons on Oceanic and NA servers. Expecting bad connection on Frostmourne? Play on Stormrage.

AFK players are seriously not this MMO's problem and has not been for almost a year. We are seriously lacking a sufficient amount of servers to cover an almost doubling of this MMO's population. It is going to get SIGNIFICANTLY worse in 6.1 with the release of on the box features that are pretty damn major for Endwalker.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Do you use Google, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Youtube, Snapchat, Tiktok, etc. etc. etc.? If you do, you are already being monitored

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Google and YouTube, and I give them all fake information. All they know about me is what I do on their sites.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Just don't do illegal stuff and you don't have to worry. It's easy.

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Its getting cold. Can I sheer some of your wool to make a sweater?

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Originally Posted by lezard21

SE needs to address the elephant in the room and implement a program that verifies files and executables that might be affecting the game. That way you tackle in one fell swoop: bots, mod users, assist tool users (like ACT).

Any other fix other than that is a band aid fix that will get infected and start bleeding again next expansion.

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Also what's wrong with ACT? The raiding scene wouldn't enjoy not having access to that.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

SE needs to address the elephant in the room and implement a program that verifies files and executables that might be affecting the game. That way you tackle in one fell swoop: bots, mod users, assist tool users (like ACT).

Any other fix other than that is a band aid fix that will get infected and start bleeding again next expansion.

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That's apparently illegal in Japan.. thaaat's why they're not doing it.

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Originally Posted by Yahallo

Also what's wrong with ACT? The raiding scene wouldn't enjoy not having access to that.

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Among other problematic things, ACT has sound notifications for when skills come off cooldown which completely babyfies the complexity of rotations and it's something console players don't have access to, thus being an unfair advantage.

And of course people performing illegal activities wouldn't enjoy being busted and having their illegal stuff taken away/punished.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

And of course people performing illegal activities wouldn't enjoy being busted and having their illegal stuff taken away/punished.

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I seriously have to ask: can you honestly think of no reason other than illegal activities why someone doesn't want to be monitored? I want to know if this is actually your perspective or if you're just making bad faith arguments on purpose.

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Originally Posted by Pokelong

then you can requeue after poop and it won't take so long again.

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It must be lovely to have no idea what it is like to have to tend to normal bodily functions. Are you a robot?