Watching cutscenes causing my internet to break

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12-11-2021, 03:27 AM
Laziel

Watching cutscenes causing my internet to break

So I am watching a cutscene and my internet drops always on that cutscene "moonbyrda scene" it comes up up with a error I notice my BT Hub is flashing and my whole internet is down for 10 seconds then I back on having to qeueue again happen 6 times so far

ISP : BT

Tracing route to 195.82.50.9 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 172.16.10.110
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 7 ms 9 ms 7 ms 62.172.102.76
5 17 ms 8 ms 8 ms peer7-et0-0-7.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [62.172.102.1]
6 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 166-49-214-194.gia.bt.net [166.49.214.194]
7 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms ldn-b3-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.248.71.146]
8 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms ldn-bb4-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.122.180]
9 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms prs-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.133.239]
10 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms ffm-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.122.139]
11 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms ffm-b10-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.137.211]
12 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms kddi-ic301630-ffm-b10.ip.twelve99-cust.net [62.115.32.110]
13 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 195.82.61.18
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 195.82.50.9
12-11-2021, 03:33 AM
KnottySloth

out of couriosity this would be to crazy to be true. afaik arent there "connections" between your router and a cutszene nor you GPU.
12-11-2021, 04:50 AM
Banggugyangu

Purely coincidental. The client doesn't have the capabilities of causing this problem.
12-11-2021, 05:03 AM
ApeKing

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

The client doesn't have the capabilities of causing this problem.

I don't think any normal user here has the qualifications to make that claim.
12-11-2021, 05:40 AM
say0

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

Purely coincidental. The client doesn't have the capabilities of causing this problem.

ANY program that connects to the internet has the capability to flood packets. Lets not forget this game is complete japanese spaghetti code.
12-11-2021, 06:26 AM
Banggugyangu

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Originally Posted by say0

ANY program that connects to the internet has the capability to flood packets. Lets not forget this game is complete japanese spaghetti code.

If this were happening on this client, it would be very prevalent and very well known. The number of players going through these very same cutscenes and not seeing any issues suggests that it's not an issue with the client itself. Yes, it CAN flood packets, but that is very unlikely to force the modem into a reboot. Modem reboots are typically caused by faulty hardware, provisioning signals sent from the ISP, insufficient power draw, or a signal issue. This sounds like a SNR that is too high on coaxial connection. That is something that WOULD trigger this exact behavior frequently. It's purely coincidental that its happening when entering that cutscene.
12-11-2021, 06:33 AM
ApeKing

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

If this were happening on this client, it would be very prevalent and very well known. The number of players going through these very same cutscenes and not seeing any issues suggests that it's not an issue with the client itself. Yes, it CAN flood packets, but that is very unlikely to force the modem into a reboot. Modem reboots are typically caused by faulty hardware, provisioning signals sent from the ISP, insufficient power draw, or a signal issue. This sounds like a SNR that is too high on coaxial connection. That is something that WOULD trigger this exact behavior frequently. It's purely coincidental that its happening when entering that cutscene.

You neglect to mention it could very well be a problem with his specific setup. Just because its not a wide spread incident doesn't mean it's not happening on his end.
12-11-2021, 06:51 AM
Banggugyangu

Nothing about his setup would cause the game to affect his modem in a way that it wouldn't do the same for everyone else. The only possibility of that is if someone had put malicious code into the game client that would target specific network devices. I find that to be quite the far-fetched idea from a company like SE, honestly.
12-11-2021, 06:58 AM
ApeKing

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

Nothing about his setup would cause the game to affect his modem in a way that it wouldn't do the same for everyone else. The only possibility of that is if someone had put malicious code into the game client that would target specific network devices. I find that to be quite the far-fetched idea from a company like SE, honestly.

You have absolutely no idea what the client is capable of doing on HIS specific setup. Saying it's impossible without knowing everything else is nonsense. You are not qualified in any way to confirm otherwise. And no one has mentioned maliciousness from square or any other company so that is irrelevant to even bring up.
12-11-2021, 07:08 AM
Banggugyangu

-_- I'm not going to debate my qualifications with you, and at this point I think you're being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. The OP posted with an assumption. That assumption was fundamentally incorrect. The whole purpose of my reply was to state that and direct the OP in a different direction in hopes that person could actually find a proper solution. The fact of the matter is this: The player base is vast enough that nearly every potential combination of hardware can be accounted for multiple times over. If there was code within the client that was flooding packets, it wouldn't be hardware dependent. Outside of packet flooding, the only other thing that could be happening would come from malicious code. I'm not saying that SE has done anything malicious. I'm not saying that anyone else suggested it. I'm saying it's HIGHLY unlikely. I only mention that because outside of packet flooding, the client does not have access to the hardware at a low enough level to do anything else that could possibly cause this behavior without exploiting a vulnerability in a connected network device. Exploitation of vulnerabilities would be malicious. Again... I'm not saying they're doing this, and I personally believe that they're not.
12-11-2021, 07:25 AM
ApeKing

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

-_- I'm not going to debate my qualifications with you, and at this point I think you're being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. The OP posted with an assumption. That assumption was fundamentally incorrect. The whole purpose of my reply was to state that and direct the OP in a different direction in hopes that person could actually find a proper solution. The fact of the matter is this: The player base is vast enough that nearly every potential combination of hardware can be accounted for multiple times over. If there was code within the client that was flooding packets, it wouldn't be hardware dependent. Outside of packet flooding, the only other thing that could be happening would come from malicious code. I'm not saying that SE has done anything malicious. I'm not saying that anyone else suggested it. I'm saying it's HIGHLY unlikely. I only mention that because outside of packet flooding, the client does not have access to the hardware at a low enough level to do anything else that could possibly cause this behavior without exploiting a vulnerability in a connected network device. Exploitation of vulnerabilities would be malicious. Again... I'm not saying they're doing this, and I personally believe that they're not.

No you did not say it was unlikely, you said it was impossible. It may not be what you meant but it's what you said and what it came off 100% as. Words need to be chosen more carefully during the current environment. And bringing up malicious code and immediately bringing up Square's defense as if someone will automatically think it's them...why? The OP never even mentioned any malicious intent nor did I. Why even bring this up? And no offense meant here but, your armchair-technician posts are not a qualification.
12-11-2021, 07:41 AM
Banggugyangu

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Originally Posted by ApeKing

No you did not say it was unlikely, you said it was impossible. It may not be what you meant but it's what you said and what it came off 100% as. Words need to be chosen more carefully during the current environment. And bringing up malicious code and immediately bringing up Square's defense as if someone will automatically think it's them...why? The OP never even mentioned any malicious intent nor did I. Why even bring this up? And no offense meant here but, your armchair-technician posts are not a qualification.

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

Nothing about his setup would cause the game to affect his modem in a way that it wouldn't do the same for everyone else. The only possibility of that is if someone had put malicious code into the game client that would target specific network devices. I find that to be quite the far-fetched idea from a company like SE, honestly.

Sure, I didn't use the WORD "unlikely", I said "far-fetched idea", which means ... unlikely... I would post my actual credentials if the industry that I work in weren't the financial industry. I don't care if you believe me or not, and I understand that without actually presenting my credentials, you likely won't, but I'm CIO/CSO for a chain of credit unions. I'm QUITE qualified to comment on the matter. I'm also a far cry from an "armchair-technician". Your comments have not been helpful in this thread whatsoever. You have done nothing but argue with me and feed the OP in his assumption.
12-11-2021, 08:00 AM
ApeKing

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

Sure, I didn't use the WORD "unlikely", I said "far-fetched idea", which means ... unlikely...

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

The client doesn't have the capabilities of causing this problem.

Your very first post was confirmational.

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

I would post my actual credentials if the industry that I work in weren't the financial industry. I don't care if you believe me or not, and I understand that without actually presenting my credentials, you likely won't, but I'm CIO/CSO for a chain of credit unions.

Would/could/if/maybe

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Originally Posted by Banggugyangu

Your comments have not been helpful in this thread whatsoever. You have done nothing but argue with me and feed the OP in his assumption.

And your comments have been nothing more than making a claim, having it contradicted, getting upset about it, and then huffing about your qualifications without backing ANYTHING up.You have come off as nothing but snide and arrogant. All I did was make sure the OP doesn't completely disregard the possibly his install is messing with something on his end. Which you immediately said was impossible and you now this because of your "qualifications". Then you backstepped your statement in your next post saying o know I meant it was "unlikely".

Are you seeing the issue here?