Do "relic" weapon requirements get eased in new expansions?

Hey all

Just returned after finishing shadowbringers base story upon release and am trying to catch up. Currently working with one of the Resistance weapons and have been struggling to upgrade it. (farming memories solo is pretty dang boring since I got no FC)

But was just wondering, do the requirements for these types of weapons ever get shaved down? Since they become outmoded with new expansions but obviously still cool to look at/collect I was curious.

Also was doing sand apparently for the HW era weapon before I stopped that. (Finished a full bar of sand then it asked me to do it again and I just bailed at that point lol)

They tend to nerf them a couple times during the expansion they belong to and that's usually the end of it. What you see now are their eased requirements.

The requirements for old relic weapons get reduced over time. To provide some examples, you used to have to get lots of crystals from each zone's fates in Heavensward, but now you only need 1 from each. You used to need to do DR 15 times for the current relic, but now you only have to do it 5 times.

Yeah, given that they've already nerfed the ShB relic process quite a bit I don't imagine we'll see much of a change going forward. Don't get me wrong, there are a couple of steps that could use an edit (particularly the one time steps you need to do for your first weapon) but I doubt it will happen now.

The most they might do is have some items available on vendors after the expansion that were previously obtained other ways.

ARR Relics were only nerfed twice. Heavensward, then Stormblood. Waaaaay easier than they originally were. Still annoying lol!

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Originally Posted by InfinityLibrarian

ARR Relics were only nerfed twice. Heavensward, then Stormblood. Waaaaay easier than they originally were. Still annoying lol!

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If I could edit one of those wiki who provided the guides for ARR relics grind, I'd be more than glad to put a large, red disclaimer: "Do this only if you hate yourself."

IIRC the heavensward ones were only nerfed as hard as they were because they kind of nuked diadum as much as they did. The stormblood ones, I think, are easier than they were originally but you still have to do the whole eureka grind for them so it's very unlikely we'll see the shadowbringers ones change too much outside of maybe increasing drop rates and drop amounts if I had to guess.

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Originally Posted by InfinityLibrarian

ARR Relics were only nerfed twice. Heavensward, then Stormblood. Waaaaay easier than they originally were. Still annoying lol!

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Eliminating the RNG is how the ARR relic quests were nerfed the most. But something else to consider is imagine doing them when lv50 was the cap, ALONG with the stab-me-in-face-instead RNG factor. I think it was one of those concepts that carried over from FFXI, where they did not intend for everyone to have a relic; only those without lives and truly committed to just one job. An ARR relic quest will still set you back timewise quite a bit despite the nerfs, but I think a player could get every single relic in ShB done in the time it would take you to finish one ARR relic unnerfed.

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ARR Relics were only nerfed twice. Heavensward, then Stormblood. Waaaaay easier than they originally were. Still annoying lol!

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It's really only the books that are a big annoyance now.

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Originally Posted by Dreamsoap

Anima can also be pre-farmed with poetics. 1st time around is a long slog all the same. Second time you've unlocked all the quests from various steps so you can pick up the singing clusters weekly and dump poetics/ GC seals into bones, shells, ore, moonstone, 4x seal items etc. I have all that ready by the time I feel like doing another one.

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The 4-seal items are also trade-able, so if you have gil, you can just buy them from the Marketboard.


If you're a hunt train follower, you tend to swim in currencies that can be used for anima weapon. For allegory and nuts, they can be turned into gear for GC seals.

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ARR Relics were only nerfed twice. Heavensward, then Stormblood. Waaaaay easier than they originally were. Still annoying lol!

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Really wish they nerf Eureka weapon to not be NM train dependent, similar to how the first area of Eureka works with two currencies.

There's no telling.
About the only consistent pattern is that, if they do, it'll most likely be in 6.1 several months after Endwalker's Release, not in 6.0.
They don't want people focusing on old content with a new xpac out, after all.

They're going to have to figure out something because eventually CLL, and the Dalriada are going to be dead content despite them being effectively mandatory for the Relics.

POTD isn't near reliable enough.

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They're going to have to figure out something because eventually CLL, and the Dalriada are going to be dead content despite them being effectively mandatory for the Relics.

POTD isn't near reliable enough.

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Even today, there are still people running BA in Eureka despite how annoying the entry requirement is, so getting people for CLL/Dalriada should not be hard. You can even run the things with only 2-3 people thanks to super echo buff.


And if you grind multi-relic, DR is a much better alternative for Dalradia cuz it drops two types of materials and can be speed run (find Discords for this). You can fill the rest with lv70 dungeon spam or camp Dalariada.


I like how SE approaches the Resistance relic grind. They give you a lot of alternatives to tackle the grind, instead of Eureka-or-forget-about-it in Eureka weapon grind.

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They're going to have to figure out something because eventually CLL, and the Dalriada are going to be dead content despite them being effectively mandatory for the Relics.

POTD isn't near reliable enough.

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yeah maybe SE put it on poetics or Bozja fates who knows....

Following the Eureka pattern, likely the relic requirements themselves won't be changed much, but Gangos may yet be nerfed again.