What do you guys think Y'shtola's next job class evolution will be?

She was a conjurer throughout 1.0 to Stormblood and then learned thramaturge and became a Sorceress in Shadowbringers.

I suspect that she'll remain in her current unique job class for at least the next 2-3 expansions, if she's still alive that is. But I'm genuinely curious what she'll become next.

She's already sort of in a way a traditional FF Sage, but just focuses on offensive magic, save for the occasional shield magic she uses still in MSQ cutscene. So maybe she'll end up become a full blown traditional FF Sage in later expansions.

But what is everyone else's thoughts? do you guys think Y'shtola will have further job class evolutions in the future or do you think she'll stay as she is until her role as a Scion ends, either abruptly due to severe injury, finding another calling in life as Lyse did or dying?

I doubt they will change her job again because I just can't see her job evolution going any further. I'd probably say the same about the other Scions. We got to watch them develop over the years and I'd be willing to bet that what they are now is their final form. And we are already getting a Sage, so...

Thancred changed to GNB when it was new.
Alphinaud changed to SGE when it was new.
IF Y'shtola ever changes to a new job it will probably be to a job as it's being added to the game.

Sure, sometimes characters swap to existing jobs, like Urianger becoming an AST, but no existing one feels appropriate for her so my money is on something new.

Necromancer. She's certainly had enough near-death experiences to get acquainted with it.....

I preferred WHM Y'shtola personally. But if she wants to switch things up, she needs a bit more melee in her life - reaper maybe? She's going darker after all.

next expansion's new jobs will probably be a ranged and a caster. I can't see Y'shtola being a ranged dps so it will be the new caster. Although they could give it to Alisaie because she's been itching for a new job. And her last job change was 3.4 so Alisaie will probably get a new job before Y'shtola

Goddess.

I guess just replying with Goddess was to short of a message so here is this too.

A bullet to the head . . . Put a guuuurl down already.

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Originally Posted by Awha

A bullet to the head . . . Put a guuuurl down already.

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She'd probably survive that too because she's Y'shtola. That cat most likely has the lifestream on speed dial or something at this point.

I don't think she will change again. She changed because they needed to balance out the roles in the trust system (moving her from Heals to Dps.). Though they could change her job in the future, I guess if they would do it again I would guess a future job that isn't in the game just yet.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

She'd probably survive that too because she's Y'shtola. That cat most likely has the lifestream on speed dial or something at this point.

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Bad Party, Encounter with a blonde, and a bit of a drop... Assuming I haven't forgotten anything/my not being caught up doesn't hurt, I figure she has four more lives left.

She's a sorceress I think since ShB had a lot of FFVIII influence (but no Rinoa or Quistis outfits :C bc enix doesn't care about their supportingcharacters) even though she wasn't bending time and space as they were doing in FFVIII: she still did some neat stuff.

maybe she will go reaper

I'd rather see Y'shtola removed from the main cast and be retired rather than have her go through another job evolution. The whole cats have 9 lives gimmick has gotten pretty stale by this point.

If we need a new poster girl, bring Yugiri back in or design a new character already.

Time Mage without SE actually adding it as a Job players can select cause doing that would make a lot of ppl cry on these forums increasing forum activity... >.>

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Sure, sometimes characters swap to existing jobs, like Urianger becoming an AST.

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Let's be fair, though: Urianger probably went AST because significant sections of his fanbase wanted to see his clavicles.

*I have complete confidence in this assertion.*

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Necromancer. She's certainly had enough near-death experiences to get acquainted with it.....

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Sure, but all of those near-death experiences have an obvious connecting thread: The lady got stuck in a bad teleport and then got teleported out of a very long fall. That's... it. It gives as much reason for a Planar Mage as any Necromancer.

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Originally Posted by juicybug

She's a sorceress I think since ShB had a lot of FFVIII influence (but no Rinoa or Quistis outfits :C bc enix doesn't care about their supportingcharacters) even though she wasn't bending time and space as they were doing in FFVIII: she still did some neat stuff.

maybe she will go reaper

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I can see Y'shtola getting stuck in a other timeline, like the one where the Crystal Sage came from and only the WoL and G'raha can travel freely back and forth to that timeline because G'raha has a connection to it and WoL has plot (lol). And if we ever get Y'shtola back, she'd probablymcome back as a time Mage, after having spent, countless years in that timeline learning how to effectively use time and space magic and tech. And so she'd be like a techno time and space mage of sorts that sits on the sidelines and only helps when we need to cross to other worlds.

You know, I could sort of see her becoming a Reaper, as many people pointed here how she brushes with death so much, lol. It'd be a pretty cool transition from Sorceress. Hey, maybe if that happens she'll end up becoming a sort of ambassador for the 13th once its saved and retire from the Scions like that! She already has a pretty cool relationship with the Night's Blessed in the First, so that could be a cool transition. :D

Necromancer who control the dead corpses of Scion members to fight for her.

If you think about it, it was never job changes but first jobs.

Y'shtola was a conjurer, Thancred a rogue, Urianger arcanist.
Now Alphinaud finally gets one as well, going from a fake Scholar job.
You could debate that Sorceress is something else than WHM and BLM slapped together and therefore not a job.

But I don't think they will change soon, except if a new caster job that completely fits Y'shtola happens to be introduced.

If I remember well, Yoshida mentioned that the character going to the next arc will depend on their popularity. If Y'shtola is tiring the community, she might just not (or rarely) appear in the next arcs.

I was pretty sure they said somewhere that the main cast’s story is done in this expansion and we’re saying goodbye to all the characters, even if they survive the events of the MSQ.

I’m sure we’ll see them in cameos, but 7.0+ will be “and now for something completely different”.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

If I remember well, Yoshida mentioned that the character going to the next arc will depend on their popularity. If Y'shtola is tiring the community, she might just not (or rarely) appear in the next arcs.

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If this is the case we'll never see the end of her as she's *insanely* popular in Japan.



To be honest, I'd very much like to see the current cast of Scions wrap up their stories and shift to background NPCs with very little, if any, significance to future content. With the end of the Zodiark/Hydaelyn/Ascian/Scions story arc, they've all served their purpose and it's time to move on.

It would be really cool to see the Adventurer's Guild (ala Mor Dhona) take a leading role in our activities going forward. Just open up branches in the various hub cities in the new zones and have them be the story-givers. "Garlemald needs to be rebuilt after the Final Days? Here you go adventurers, lots of quests for you to do to aid in that. Oh look, we discovered a new [raid], have fun exploring it." "Now that Eorzea's safe from the Primal threat and the nations have pretty much settled down, we're gathering an expedition to Merycidia and would love to have you along." etc, etc, etc

We'll also have the perfect opportunity to tie our GC Squadron into Trusts. Hell, why not do the same for Retainers too?


Summary: I'm personally done with the Scions and would be very happy for them to finish their story arcs and go back to Sharlyan where they belong.

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

If this is the case we'll never see the end of her as she's *insanely* popular in Japan.

Summary: I'm personally done with the Scions and would be very happy for them to finish their story arcs and go back to Sharlyan where they belong.

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Good. I'm all for more Y'shtola.
While many think of her as a walking plot armor with cat ears, she's often there when there is interessing lore moment.
She often look into past events and I'm into this History nerd things.

As for the Scions, I have a big connection with Thancred and his arc in ShB, loved the Father/Daughter relationship he had with Ryne. Now I don't think he's popular enough.
Never liked Urianger until ShB where he finally plays a part that isn't "in the shadows".

As for the twins, I love the little siblings vibes. Even if Alisaie is a bit too fixated on the WoL.

I'd love to see those playing a part in the next arc but I guess space is needed for new characters.

Blue Mage who exclusively uses Self Destruct.

They have the main cast change when a new job comes out except HW. SB had RDM, SHB had GNB, EW has SAG/SGE

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

She'd probably survive that too because she's Y'shtola. That cat most likely has the lifestream on speed dial or something at this point.

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Not wrong, this cat lady plot armor makes some anime protagonists red with envy.

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Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd

Blue Mage who exclusively uses Self Destruct.

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She would just pull a Vegeta from DragonBall Super during the tournament of power. Is my "progression" a joke to you.

If she stays with us I think she wont get another job change until 7.0

Retiring the Sylvanas Windrunner of the FF14 universe? Is such a thing even possible?!?

Won't the universe implode or something like that if such a thing happened?

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Retiring the Sylvanas Windrunner of the FF14 universe? Is such a thing even possible?!?

Won't the universe implode or something like that if such a thing happened?

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Sounds like the start of another Calamity to me. Let's do it. For the greater good or...something. We always need more bad guys to fight.

I wouldn't mind seeing Y'shtola suffer a very tragic and painful death, maybe drawn out to make it impactful leaving no room for doubt that it's final with no hope of recovery.

It should elicit a lot of feelings from the player like regret, anger, Y'shtola should have plenty of unfinished business and promises that couldn't be kept and the narrative should bring that up and it should show that she's pretty sad about it all too before dying.

For any of the current scions to not really be prominent in story content after Endwalker IMO they'd either need to suffer death or a serious injury that they cannot fully recover from, or the next story arc involves another departure from the source that didn't involve chasing after them. Given all the crafting and business skills Tataru has acquired over the course of the game along with all the connections she's made I don't think it's possible to for the Scions to disappear from Eorzea.

It'd be nice if they switched to a whole new cast of characters for the next big storyline but I somehow doubt that will happen.

I doubt the Scions are due for any major casualties, but I'm hoping they'll stay behind while we move on to new regions in 7.0. Let them hang around and put Eorzea back together while we go off to Meracydia or the New World or another Shard or something. We can pop in to the Rising Stones for exposition on whatever magical mystery comes up, just enough to keep them around, and then go back to our new adventures.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

If you think about it, it was never job changes but first jobs.

Y'shtola was a conjurer, Thancred a rogue, Urianger arcanist.
Now Alphinaud finally gets one as well, going from a fake Scholar job.
You could debate that Sorceress is something else than WHM and BLM slapped together and therefore not a job.

But I don't think they will change soon, except if a new caster job that completely fits Y'shtola happens to be introduced.

If I remember well, Yoshida mentioned that the character going to the next arc will depend on their popularity. If Y'shtola is tiring the community, she might just not (or rarely) appear in the next arcs.

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Good point.
Though, if there are another 10 years of support in the works, I'd be surprised if any Scions sticking with us don't change their job again during that stretch.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I doubt they will change her job again because I just can't see her job evolution going any further. I'd probably say the same about the other Scions. We got to watch them develop over the years and I'd be willing to bet that what they are now is their final form. And we are already getting a Sage, so...

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Yeah this has to be final form for her, her outfit is pretty nice, but if it ever does happen, it wont be anytime soon.

Knife mage.

She turns her staff into a knife and throws it at people.

I don't see her changing jobs again. However, I can see her returning to the First.

I think at most Tataru will sew her a new dress. So thinking nothing new.

Retirement is the job she should change into.
There's nothing worse than holding on to characters that had their run, it's too bad she only truly "shined" in shb for me but I'm honestly sick of most of the 2.0+ cast. The only character from the scions I actually feel something for is Alphinaud since he has been with us for the majority of the time but Yshtola really doesn't serve anything more than being a convenient lore dump.

So no don't give her or anyone else another job change, if the devs truly can't part from this character than ig staying the way she is should be fine but I'd be kinda pissed if she gets another upgrade to her wardrobe, that comes with yet another minion, while other characters are being left in the dust.

I heard Matoya is an OP class to play. Maybe she'll pick that next.