Level 1 - Logic - unaspected damage with a potency of 160. 30y 1.5 castime with 2.50 cooldown
Level 2 - Bio - Deals unaspected damage over time.
Potency: 25. Duration: 60.
Level 3 - Maisma - potency 30- cooldown 90 seconds- target monster deals 10% less damage duration of the dot: 60 duration of the debuff - 8-12 seconds
level 4 - Natures Guirdians - summons both eos. and selene at ones one fairy for on left and right shoulder. eos takes care of embracing where selenes takes care of abilities like
Eos - Abiltiies
Embrace
Whispering Dawn
Fey Blessing
Selenes Abilties -
Indignation - Increases healing crit rate on the target by 5% by adding 200+ potency sheild on the target - every 30-60 seconds
Fey Illumation
New Trait - Honor Student - changes towards. Lvl6
Logic -> Logic II - with additional effect restores 100-150 mp per cast as well deal more damage
Bio -> Bio II - heals you for 1% damage dealt every tick. deals more damage
level10 Resurrection - simple
Level 12 - Fey Illumanation
level 15 - Succor - Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 220
Additional Effect: Erects a magicked barrier which nullifies damage equaling 150% of the amount of HP restored
Duration: 60s
Level 20 - Whispering Dawn
Level 26 Ruin - Deals 200 Potency damage to the target. If the target has both Bio and miasma. it will spread there effects up to 3-4 additional targets.
Level 30 Adloquium - Restores target's HP.
castime 1.50
GCD 2.50
800 MP
Cure Potency: 400
Additional Effect: Grants Galvanize to target, nullifying damage equaling 125% of the amount of HP restored. When critical HP is restored, also grants Catalyze, nullifying damage equaling 125% the amount of HP restored.
Duration: 30s
Aetherflow Level 35
Bliss - Level 35
Off-Global Cooldown- Weaving Heal
Heals the target for 550 Potency
Restores 10% of maximum MP.
Additional Effect: Aetherflow III
Level45
Energy Drain - Off-Global Cooldown
Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 200.
Additional Effect: Restores 10% of maximum MP.
Additional Effect: Logic and Art of war abilities grant 5+ fairy gauge for 8 seconds
Addition Effect: Aetherflow III
Level 45 Lustrate -
Restores target's HP.
Cure Potency: 700
Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 20
Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1
Level 46
2 Charges
Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 500
Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 20
Level 47 - Art of War -
Instant cast
2.5s
500 MP
8y
Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 160 to all nearby enemies.
Level 50 Sacred Soil
2 Charges
Reduces damage taken all inside by 10-15
Additional Effect: Regen - 100-150 cure potency
Additional Effect: Heals made while under the sheild gives you 2-3 fairy gauge
1-50
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10-18-2021, 11:54 PMVictoriaLuvMy Complete Scholar Rework -> Suggestions -> Please read
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10-19-2021, 12:03 AMVidera
Victoria. Just stop.
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10-19-2021, 12:04 AMVictoriaLuv
this continuations 50-60
54 Logic -> Broil - Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 240.
56 Deployment Tactics- the same
58 Emergency Tactics- the same
60 Dissipation - the same
60 Excogitation - Grants self or target party member the effect of Excogitation, restoring HP when member's HP falls below 50% or upon effect duration expiration.
Cure Potency: 800
Duration: 2mins
Cost 25+ Fairy Gauge instead of aetherflow
60 Unlock Fairy Gauge
Level62 Disspation - Places a Sheild on the target equal 100% of there max HP while increasing the healing done and recieved by 20% giving full aetherc urrent stacks. you this removes fairy from battle feild to equilvant to 60 second cooldown. really debating if this ability should have benediction cooldown sense it does what benedition does just gives a sheild instead of a heal. this make scholar amazing by giving them amazing oh-crap button.
level 64 Broil II (no change)
Chain Stratagem - Increases Rate at watch the target takes critical heals or critical damage this can be placed on the target or boss. by 10-15% Durations is 18 seconds. meaning you can put this on a player even thou dont know why either way. allow you crit more
Aetherpacts -cost per second is reduced from 10 to 5
Everything else pretty much same but seraph has new animation both fairies become one.
Ive been 80 on scholar for a bit now. so only pointing out what they should what i like see them do. -
10-19-2021, 05:38 AMMellowMink
I still genuinely want to know what specific resources you based your last set of mentioned healer changes off of since they were presented as "100% true" rather than just speculation; that was shown like it was a leak, including with follow-up replies made toward some skeptic responders, and yet that ended up not being the case.
Either way, from the newer list here, I particularly doubt that "Natures Guirdians [sic]" will become a thing, and I would rather that fairies with unique abilities or stat boosts be selected between rather than both used at the same time; that would add more flexibility to potential player strategies. I also subjectively disagree with "Ruin" being moved to a much higher level than it's already at now; it should remain the initial attack spell, especially if Scholar is still going to ultimately continue from Arcanist.
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10-19-2021, 08:13 AMVictoriaLuvallowing to summon both at same time would fix probably fix pet issue. one does one other does different abilities without pet jank. also make it unique. please note these aren't real these are just suggestions. I merged ruin with bane. watch is actually ruin 2 made logic due to what the class is a scholar, watch can be look at as professional student aims to be master of an artQuote:
Originally Posted by MellowMink
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10-20-2021, 04:05 AMMellowMink"due to what the class is a scholar, watch can be look at as professional student"Quote:
Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv
...Can you rephrase your post please?
Also, regarding my comment about facts versus preferences, I was talking about your earlier thread that you presented as "100% true" in your words, and you were also repeatedly rude toward multiple people in replies who expressed some skepticism while politely asking for credible sources. I'm aware that this particular thread is being presented as "suggestions" instead, but my reply didn't refute that. -
10-20-2021, 02:02 PMVictoriaLuvwhat is defintion of a scholar ->Quote:
Originally Posted by MellowMink
scholar
/ˈskɒlə/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a specialist in a particular branch of study, especially the humanities. <-
a person who is highly educated or has an aptitude for study. <-
a university student holding a scholarship. <-
scholar - this means specialist in what they study - a student
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10-20-2021, 02:46 PMDoru_Nintendan
I know not everyone is happy with how Endwalker will change SCHs to some degree, but these sort of changes you want are far worse. You want to change Ruin's name because "Ruin doesn't sound like a Scholar ability at all," yet it's because SCH is obtained from ACN, who has Ruin as their main spell. You want your main spell to constantly supply MP, which only solidifies the simple DPS mentality that people hate on Healers in general. You want BOTH pets out at once, where the pet AI can't really handle a single one at times. And that's just the first couple of spells and abilities.
You still are only focused on "flashy and engaging" over anything else at all. At this point, I think you're just a Balmung Bunny ERPing as a "top-tier game designer" or something. -
10-20-2021, 06:56 PMSaefinn
What I am seeing is mostly healing changes. I think looking at EW's SCH kit the only healing change I'd probably make is to Dissipation, I don't think Dissipation complements SCH's tool kit well and I don't think it has even done so. It looks like shields might be beefier, though I have thought nerfing some of their pure heals would be necessary but given some of YoshiP's comments and the stat squish, I'm going to see what the incoming damage is like because I make a judgment call on that.
As for Ruin? It's a non-elemental magic spell inherited from FFXII. Scholars are mages, so it's fine for Scholars to use a magic spell from the FF universe because many skills and spells take their names from existing FF titles. And it inherits it from ACN, and ACN is thematically closer to SCH than SMN (especially as both are strategists). SCH has plenty of skill names that suit its theme and identity, but the bit that I feel betrays its identity is its identity as a military tactician (which is why it's AF1 has military medals on it), the job doesn't feel that tactical anymore to play, which is mostly down to a healing uptime/downtime balance issue and some of the skills it has been stripped of. -
10-21-2021, 06:31 AMMellowMink
I'm thankful to any moderators who end up looking through these many threads; this forum needs them.
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10-21-2021, 07:51 AMCrimsonGunner
coming up with reworks idea might inspire some good changes to the healers ,i am doubtful they will read this cause of the media tour and interviews but i still have some hope, although try not to confuse dreams and imaginitive/theory reworks with actual gameplay build so your post wont have any negetive effects ^^.
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10-21-2021, 12:30 PMVictoriaLuvGame Theory/Suggestion Scholar Rework 2nd
as a shield healer I feel they should have more offensive opinions. summoner lost alot of abilities. its only fair I strongly believe that
scholar should get bane/miasma. is this bad thing no. shield healers are different then pure healers. so these dps opinions. just they should have more dps opinions added to them.
only differences i would make is make miasma a ogcd with cooldown. and bane as well so can be used over and over. that is art of war is for. and honestly dont want feel like these spells replace
Lack of ogcds on scholar is not really fair healing on them isn't hard. but requires twice as many button presses to get someone 1-100. is it impossible no. isn't it stressful yes.
good example is when dark/gun breaker or in 8 man content a boss decides drop everyone 1 if dont heal them to 100% they die. as a scholar this is very hard to pull off on your own. ive pulled it off few times. and healed all tanks then again its stressful. its actual 7-8 healing button combo. watch have pull off 12-15 watch can be pain thanks ogcd
scholar needs a big ogcd. something they can use heal other people while gaining aetherflow. aetherflow at moment only gives MP. it could be used give healing/sheilding to the tank someone who needs it. being solid ogcd.
Dissipation - this ability needs some adjustiments. however i find it very strong when comes to scholar healing. 20% healing increases is very important i use it very often. however i feel them method removing fairy on battle feild is a bit much. just for that. this ability needs have some type of benediction like ogdc. or add more effects too it
Finally - Selene/Eos must be different then each other. your simply just keeping Eos/Selene as cosmetic abilities watch there is no difference between the two. that is the case just add fairy glamor and be done. but you see no scholar wants that. we want both faires to have a place. so my suggestion is rework both selene/eos have two difference functions.
Lastly scholars dependiant on crits for big shields. thats completely rng. cant say how many melds. that dont have any crit. this is problem specially after stat squish. are shields should me meatier. yes critting still be a thing but completely depending on rng for class to function. is bit much. -
10-21-2021, 01:24 PMNizziI'll just go point by point:Quote:
Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv
I agree Scholar should have Miasma, it feels weird to me that Scholar forgets how to use that when coming from Arcanist. I know that ACN/SMN are about to lose their DoTs, but at least having two DoTs, maybe at different timers too, would give a bit more to juggle in downtime. Bane is fun too, but I would rather have the DoT than it; Bane could be brought back as an effect of Art of War I suppose, but in the sake of preventing button bloat I don't think it should be it's own dedicated button on Scholar.
It seems like people have asked for Miasma back all expansion though, and SE hasn't acquiesced, so what I'd like and what will happen are two different things unfortunately.
Scholar is getting Protraction in EW which is going to help with it's ability to heal, but DRK is the only tank you need to worry about. Just because you see a GNB drop to 1 doesn't mean you need to immediately heal them to 100%, they've got invuln on them and regen ticks/other healing can easily put them in good standing before the next raidwide/tankbuster. Obviously it's case by case, but Superbolide is great, nowhere near on the level of unfun that Living Dead can be.
I don't agree, Scholar's healing kit is very powerful and it doesn't need more added to it.
Dissipation is fine IMO, I suppose the GCD healing buff could be changed to apply to Aetherflow heals, but I feel like 20% healing increase + Protraction's 10% + Recitation guaranteed crit would be incredibly busted. I know people don't like the idea that your faerie goes away for 30 seconds, but it's part of the trade off that the aetherflow stacks will be more useful to you than your fairy however you spend them. (heals or DPS)
I did not play before ShB so I don't know of a time where Eos and Selene are different, but I think it would be neat. I've thought that instead of Selene doing Embrace, she could do small attacks on an enemy, so it's just the trade of the Embrace heals and not changing of skills. Eos as a prog fairy, Selene as a farm fairy, etc. The problem being that the more you differentiate between the two, the more you make one the "better option", which obviously you wouldn't want to happen or they'd end up just combining them again.
Crits aren't completely RNG, Recitation guarantees you a Critlo every 90 seconds, and conveniently in Endwalker, Deployment Tactics is getting changed to a 90 second cooldown! This means you'll have a guaranteed party wide Critlo every 90 seconds, neat!