Overall looks like a fun job. I can see myself having a lot of fun with all the enhanced actions with the gameplay loop it's going for. Very nice single target damage and some very simple AoE options alongside party utility. Very glad I farmed out gear for full leveling process for Endwalker.
Tooltips and traits
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...R_xmas2092.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...loween1986.png
Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYTK_1Sq8ZQ - Larryzaur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsQQ4xtQ1PM - MTQcapture
Media Tour Reaper Impressions
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10-14-2021, 05:55 AMMagiusNecrosMedia Tour Reaper Impressions
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10-14-2021, 06:27 AMArkdra
All the analysis we did after the liveletter appears to be correct and as such I think it's kinda meh. A really busy opener followed by long stretch of nothing interesting to do. Also not a fan of the level ranges that it gets skills at. Especially not a fan of it's 2 biggest hits being 88 and 90 respectively. Kinda seems like a job that will feel bad whenever you sync it down.
Doesn't seem like a bad job, just not what I am after. Unlocking it and spending some time on a dummy is still the first thing I plan to do on Endwalker release, just reasonably certain that will be disappointing and I will be taking Sam up through Endwalker (or maybe rdm or gnb, kinda meh on the sam stuff too). -
10-14-2021, 06:38 AMJirahThis is exactly why I can’t stand the practice of having jobs unlocked so late! If they started at 30 or at least 50 they’d be mindful of the skills at hand and the kit, starting at 70 their focus is 90 and 70 while disregarding how it plays in 50s or 60sQuote:
Originally Posted by Arkdra
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10-14-2021, 06:48 AMMagiusNecros
Yeah gonna practice at a dummy myself and then put myself through the torture of going through every dungeon from lowest lvl to highest level like I do with every new job class. Any issues I have with any new class is that they very quickly lose their novelty once you fall into the rotation gameplay loop.
I hope it's not terribly gimped like Black Mage is at low levels. -
10-14-2021, 06:51 AMJirahOr barren and uneventful like DNC before flourishQuote:
Originally Posted by MagiusNecros
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10-14-2021, 09:16 AMMagiusNecrosLooking at the skills that seems to be the case. No gauge interaction until 50, no positionals until 70 and no SPOOKY MODE until 80. Communio isn't until lvl 90.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jirah
Level synced content especially level 50 is gonna be very sad for Reapers. Anything below 35 is going to require us to tag every mob with Shadow of Death.
Will it be too bad? Probably not but when it does happen it'll suck big time. Blue Mage has spoiled me when it comes to level sync. -
10-17-2021, 12:05 PMKahnom
From quick glance, Its like DRG + SAM in one job.
Build-up Kenki gauge to enter Life of the dragon phase.
I'm more interested in support skills TBH.
The sooner I get used to the front & back elusive jump, the better. -
10-18-2021, 12:33 AMDyvid
I think the scythe slice graphics are going to be nerfed .....
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10-18-2021, 01:40 AMArkdraI think you're right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyvid
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10-18-2021, 04:55 AMUltanikuThis was my thought, I was like even for the basic combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyvid
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10-19-2021, 03:06 AMbaklava151
Looks pretty cool, I hope bouncing between your normal combo, your soul gauge and shroud gauge attacks will do a good job of keeping the rotation busy.
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10-25-2021, 06:41 AMbaklava151
Man I'm surprised at how little discussion I'm seeing about Reaper here, what are people thinking of it?
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10-25-2021, 06:56 AMNizziHonestly, I'm pretty excited for it. It looks like it will be really fun! I haven't actually looked into what people are thinking the opener/rotation will look like, and I think it's going to look pretty comical as a job on lalafells, but it seems like it's going to be fun. I really enjoy high APM jobs like NIN, so I'm hoping that I'll enjoy Reaper too.Quote:
Originally Posted by baklava151
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10-25-2021, 08:40 AMMagiusNecros
Not much to say until November 19th. The job looks and feels good. And it's very inspired from FFXI Dark Knights. Lots of love and care is being put into this job.
If there are any initial complaints it will be lvl49 and below will suck in level synced content, Death's Design is just DRG Heavy Thrust and will be annoying, Hellgate might require target Macros or mouseovers as I'm not a fan of flat distance warps to warp to players or a mob/boss. Also two different buttons for the warps is eh. Egress/Ingress should become Regress. Like Soulsow becomes Harvest Moon. Controller player problems.
Other then that job looks hype and I'm making it my main going forward. -
10-25-2021, 10:42 AMKahnomAfter media tour video, I'm less hyped to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by baklava151
From the looks of it, the gameplays are very close to DRG and SAM more than I thought but of course, I might be wrong.
So for the time being, I should stay put and not get ahead of myself. -
10-25-2021, 10:48 AMVentVanitas
So long as Death's Design doesn't break combos like Heavy Thrust did, then I won't mind its inclusion.
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10-25-2021, 05:11 PMSkyCakeI keep forgetting it's even coming in Endwalker.Quote:
Originally Posted by baklava151
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10-25-2021, 05:27 PMTaranokFor me, it looks like a class with significant button bloat straight out of the gate (32 buttons. 24 class skills, 6 role skills, sprint, LB), has at least one dead skill (Soul Sow/Harvest Moon. It was barely 2 years ago when the devs LITERALLY made the same mistake with Shoha for Samurai) and, well...it looks really cool? I've been wanting a proper battlemage after the disappointments that RDM and DRK were to me. However, I just can't get past the concerns of button bloat and creating another Chakra/Shoha mechanic that doesn't generate during standard content. Beyond that, I actually have to play it, otherwise I'm grasping at straws for how it will feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by baklava151
Also the pseudo-dot just feels weird. I get what it's trying to do, but I don't think the class benefits from having that mechanic. It already looks to be a moderately busy rotation. I'd have preferred they gave this mechanic to a class like DRK that is desperate for something to differentiate it from WAR at this point (instead of like, oblation) than throw it on RPR. It's also 2 buttons because the devs want a single target and aoe version, which I have long since stopped enjoying as it's a major source of button bloat to take low-use skills have a single target and AoE version. And I don't know why the devs keep doing this. SB was so good in this regard because you used abilities like Foul both for single target and AoE, keeping bars nice and compact almost across the board. -
10-26-2021, 02:49 AMMagiusNecros
What I am wondering right now is what stats should Reapers shoot for regarding gear and what materia melds should be prioritized?
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10-26-2021, 03:17 AMNothv13My weak guess is either Skill speed>Crit>Direct Hit or Crit>Direct Hit>Skill SpeedQuote:
Originally Posted by MagiusNecros
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10-26-2021, 03:19 AMEndarielwell granted half of his kit are upgrades and button replacement. But we'll seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Taranok
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10-26-2021, 09:56 AMTaranokIt made it very hard to count exactly how many buttons they actually had, I'll admit. But they have 2 buttons just for moving, 2 buttons for applying the psuedo-DoT, 1 button that will be used once or twice every boss with few exceptions and then immediately ignored, and, well, that's about it. It's hard to tell exactly how bad it is, but when looking at the bars of people testing the job, it had a lot more bloat than, say, Summoner that was rivaling Machinist for fewest skills, and has my attention because of that and its constantly changing, if simple in-the-moment, rotation. A similar reason to why I like BLM's rotation, but with more variety and fewer timers threatening to destroy everything you've worked for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Endariel
This really depends. The class has no DoTs, and looks to have a significant amount of DPS directly tied into oGCDs. This is a recipe for skill speed being low priority. It also appears to not have any critical anxiety bar speed break points (E.G. an easy way to get a 6th hit in during a 10s window, which iirc no class has, or a 9th hit during a 20s No Mercy).Quote:
Originally Posted by MagiusNecros
However, a lot of its oGCDs are also directly tied into just running your GCD rotation, not on waiting for a cooldown, so who actually knows? It depends on how much double weaving it needs to do at that point. I noticed the same thing when looking into Summoner, but Summoner has the advantage of having exactly 0 GCDs per minute at a 2.5s GCD for ruin 3 spam, and could gain an entire GCD if it moves its spell speed down to about 2.375 (realistically, 2.37) second GCD but would have somewhere around 10 or so skills every minute that wouldn't benefit from it (4 oGCDs from titan, 2? oGCDs during any demi, 3 from aetherflow, 1 for aetherpact, + an unknown amount of damage the demi itself will directly do). Is it worth those skills not benefiting to fit in a single ruin 3 every minute and give you enough wiggle room to cast a single raise without clipping something else? I don't know.
With how tight SMN's rotation is in theory, it might legitimately need it. RPR could have an identical situation. But I would love for more classes to be ambiguous with skill/spell speed, because it's very tiring how the majority of classes want to either dump it, or build to very specific break points and then not care. -
10-26-2021, 10:01 AMItMe
Reaper is looking very neat.
I wasn't expecting it to tickle me, but it's now looking like one of the top 4 classes I am looking forward to.
Basically everyone from the media tour I tuned into described its playstyle as "intuitive," and that's something I really value in a class. -
10-27-2021, 01:26 PMCherie_Lavigne
When doing casual content, I play the job that looks the coolest to me. Reaper feels super edgy, looks cool, and isn't a tank. I will be playing through EW with it and leveling SMN beside it as well.
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10-28-2021, 03:01 PMJirah
Progression kit might be a whore, but that’s what you get for starting so late.
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10-29-2021, 02:34 AMMagiusNecrosI'll probably bite the bullet and see what can come out of Spell Speed and Determination with some hipster build that maximizes Arcane Crest dot ticks. The 2.47 WS recast and SpS 2.50 recast is just going to bother me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nothv13
Probably looking at 2 builds. The hipster build above and the typical build for CRIT and DH build.
I dunno why Harpe, Soulsow, Harvest Moon, Communio have to be spells with a different GCD recast. Samurai has WS with cast times and is all on the same recast.
An experiment to try at my own expense is full Spell Speed melds to see how much it can reduce in-combat Soulsow time for more harvest moons.
They really just need to combine Skillspeed and Spellspeed into the same thing and just call it Haste or Agility or some crap. -
10-30-2021, 01:26 PMLyth
I think that Skill Speed will be a really bad choice for Reaper due to your Shroud window, outside of just doing it for a laugh. Your base GCD while it's active is 1.5s, and your oGCDs have a 1s recast, which will cause all kinds of clipping problems. We're probably going to be actively avoiding it.
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10-30-2021, 04:52 PMAceceI think the gcd can't go lower then a 1.5 sec gcd, so sks won't do anything for shroud phase. could be wrong, never seen anything under a 1.5 gcd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyth
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10-31-2021, 12:34 AMMagiusNecros
Probably will run DET/DH for Reaper. The +10% damage is achievable and maybe gear/melds at 90 can push to 50% DH rate.
CRIT/DET is probably the go to for big crits.
The dream of course would be +10% Det damage stacked with Death's Design, 50% DH Rate and 20% Crit rate.
But eh we will see.