House sharing

I've made a similar suggestion earlier but decided to simplify it to persuade people to share their house.
That way more housing should become available since a shared effort, is an effortless one.

Private housing:
Right now you can share your house with 3 other people. Enhance this to 9 people.
(Make it so that your house is also automatically shared with all your alt characters)

Free company housing:
Allow Free companies to share their houses with up to 2 other Fc's (so 3 in total).

Add Loft apartments (and possibly 2 & 3 story apartments):
Add apartments that have a main and first floor that are bigger then a small house.

Add an alternative access point for the workshop (grand company?): That way players can use the workshop without the need of an FC house.
That way the benefit of abusing a house for personal gain would dissapear and people would stop making fake FC's to get access to a workshop.

I believe these changes will lessen demand on housing by up to 10-30% in the next few months which would make a huge difference with minimal effort.

Need to add the ability to share a house with alts too.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I've made a similar suggestion earlier but decided to simplify it to persuade people to share their house.
That way more housing should become available since a shared effort, is an effortless one.

Private housing:
Right now you can share your house with 3 other people. Enhance this to 9 people.

Free company housing:
Allow Free companies to share their houses with up to 2 other Fc's (so 3 in total).

Add Loft apartments:
Add apartments that have a main and first floor that are bigger then a small house.

I believe these changes will lessen demand on housing by up to 10-25% in the next few months which would make a huge difference with minimal effort.

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I'm not sure if they can do the FC house sharing. Interesting concept though. But 100% let players purchase larger apartment spaces. People want something bigger than a box to decorate. Increasing apartment sizes will go a long way in alleviating the housing demand.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Need to add the ability to share a house with alts too.

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This would solve so much. I'm not sure why they don't allow players to do this.

At this point I'd pay full house price for a "condo/townhome", aka apartment, with the size and floorplan of a small or medium house even though the main draw of housing for me is landscaping a yard. While I fully understand that one-floor family-size apartments/condos are the standard in many parts of Japan and the dev team may be thinking in that context, I don't get why there aren't multi-level options available. Seriously, how much Gil would they be able to take out of circulation if they added these in sufficient quantity to provide one per account on all servers?

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

At this point I'd pay full house price for a "condo/townhome", aka apartment, with the size and floorplan of a small or medium house even though the main draw of housing for me is landscaping a yard. While I fully understand that one-floor family-size apartments/condos are the standard in many parts of Japan and the dev team may be thinking in that context, I don't get why there aren't multi-level options available. Seriously, how much Gil would they be able to take out of circulation if they added these in sufficient quantity to provide one per account on all servers?

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The sad part about it is that Yoshi-P mentioned they were looking at different size apartments and the ability to upgrade current ones with gil (supposedly) back in 4.2 but we haven't heard anything new since.

I made a suggestion earlier about adding 3 types of apartments... basically the loft..
Then a 2 story apartment (slightly bigger then a small house) and a 3 story apartment (slightly bigger then a medium house)
But if I find the "upgrading with gil" part interesting... hopefully they'll finally allow us to use that damn balcony door to go in & out of the house! xD

As for allowing your own alts in the house... I believe the system should auto detect your account and make it autoshared with all your alts without having to change settings or invite your own alt.

Also while you guys and girls were replying I added another suggestion about adding workshops to apartments which is one of the main reasons why there are so many one man FC's out there.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I made a suggestion earlier about adding 3 types of apartments... basically the loft..
Then a 2 story apartment (slightly bigger then a small house) and a 3 story apartment (slightly bigger then a medium house)
But if I find the "upgrading with gil" part interesting... hopefully they'll finally allow us to use that damn balcony door to go in & out of the house! xD

As for allowing your own alts in the house... I believe the system should auto detect your account and make it autoshared with all your alts without having to change settings or invite your own alt.

Also while you guys and girls were replying I added another suggestion about adding workshops to apartments which is one of the main reasons why there are so many one man FC's out there.

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If they give up on the neighborhood design, then yeah, subs/airships would need to be added at least for the FC style housing.

Don't we all have something better to do then pay for a FFXIV sub? Most likely yes.
So its up to SE to figure out ways to persuade us why we should be subbing in the first place XD

FC house sharing would never work. There would be arguments over how it was decorated, which FC got to run the fleet in the workshop, etc. If the players in all the FCs got along so well such arguments didn't happen, they'd be better off merging their FCs into a single one.

I still think workshops should be detached from housing and made accessible through the affiliated GC similar to our squadron barracks. That would free up houses being used by those shell FCs solely for workshop access. Ideally workshop progress would be saved and transferred though it would only be a temporary inconvenience if impossible. SE would just need to give FCs some advance notice so they could farm the workshop materials for schematics and store expensive airship/sub parts before the change is made. Leveling would go fast enough to get fleets back to where they had been.

Right now I want the private house shared with our alts...

Why do you even listen to snowflakes who pretend the house is theirs?
If I would be able to share my FC with another FC... I'd make a rule where both FC's get to decorate a part of the house and then have the entire community vote on our idea's before we make them reality.
There are ways of finding eachother if only you try.. but even then... if you start to get bossy about how the owner made their house look... why would they even share it with you in the first place?

I'm fairly certain no one would share with anyone unless they are certain those people "respect" what isn't theirs.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I've made a similar suggestion earlier but decided to simplify it to persuade people to share their house.
That way more housing should become available since a shared effort, is an effortless one.

Private housing:
Right now you can share your house with 3 other people. Enhance this to 9 people.
(Make it so that your house is also automatically shared with all your alt characters)

Free company housing:
Allow Free companies to share their houses with up to 2 other Fc's (so 3 in total).

Add Loft apartments (and possibly 2 & 3 story apartments):
Add apartments that have a main and first floor that are bigger then a small house.

Add an alternative access point for the workshop (grand company?): That way players can use the workshop without the need of an FC house.
That way the benefit of abusing a house for personal gain would dissapear and people would stop making fake FC's to get access to a workshop.

I believe these changes will lessen demand on housing by up to 10-30% in the next few months which would make a huge difference with minimal effort.

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Very sound ideas! Tho I doubt being a tenant is what most people want, coz it wouldn't actually be theirs!

Tho, I'm a pessimist that always assumes the worst about people. Might aswell be talking out of my butt :p

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Why do you even listen to snowflakes who pretend the house is theirs?
If I would be able to share my FC with another FC... I'd make a rule where both FC's get to decorate a part of the house and then have the entire community vote on our idea's before we make them reality.
There are ways of finding eachother if only you try.. but even then... if you start to get bossy about how the owner made their house look... why would they even share it with you in the first place?

I'm fairly certain no one would share with anyone unless they are certain those people "respect" what isn't theirs.

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That rarely works in real life, what makes you think an MMO would be any different hehe. It wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Why do you even listen to snowflakes who pretend the house is theirs?
If I would be able to share my FC with another FC... I'd make a rule where both FC's get to decorate a part of the house and then have the entire community vote on our idea's before we make them reality.
There are ways of finding eachother if only you try.. but even then... if you start to get bossy about how the owner made their house look... why would they even share it with you in the first place?

I'm fairly certain no one would share with anyone unless they are certain those people "respect" what isn't theirs.

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I've seen this tried, and it all goes well and good until someone in one of the FCs decides that you're going to be the pink moogle house and decorates the exterior and interior accordingly. Unless you can create rules that are enforced by the game code for who can decorate what, this will never work.

Then you run into the issue where you get a decoration mismatch so its clear which area belongs to what FC.

I mean, there's always this pie in the sky hopium filled dream, but the reality is that it's not going to work or be as pretty as you think it is and will often cause more problems and generate more support tickets which is going to make SE reticent to try it.

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Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp

Very sound ideas! Tho I doubt being a tenant is what most people want, coz it wouldn't actually be theirs!

Tho, I'm a pessimist that always assumes the worst about people. Might aswell be talking out of my butt :p

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I think it can be done if SE allows you to assign people ownership of a floor in the building.

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Originally Posted by Besame

That rarely works in real life, what makes you think an MMO would be any different hehe. It wouldn't.

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MMO isn't real life... its fantasy/imagination made into a virtual fact... so whats wrong with using my imagination just like they did before me? People don't seem to hate theirs, but they scream about the errors that were made. I don't think fixing those problems can be THAT bad can it?

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

I've seen this tried, and it all goes well and good until someone in one of the FCs decides that you're going to be the pink moogle house and decorates the exterior and interior accordingly. Unless you can create rules that are enforced by the game code for who can decorate what, this will never work.

Then you run into the issue where you get a decoration mismatch so its clear which area belongs to what FC.

I mean, there's always this pie in the sky hopium filled dream, but the reality is that it's not going to work or be as pretty as you think it is and will often cause more problems and generate more support tickets which is going to make SE reticent to try it.

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I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that mixing communities without a set of rules will always result into chaos. You'd have to be pretty naive or stupid to try something like this without them. In your case I'm going to assume you were simply ignorant since you don't sound like that today. People are like that.. the more errors they make, the higher the chance they'll start to understand the way of things. Nevertheless if SE granted an option allowing you to choose which floor people are allowed to decorate... it can still be acceptable. If you assigned someone the basement and they made it pink while the rest of the house is blue.... since its 2 separate parts that you can't see next to eachother... it will be acceptable.