Frontier Ribbon for all gender please?

I though SE gonna make everything unisex now, but why Frontier Ribbon only locked for female? :(

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I though SE gonna make everything unisex now:(

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I would love that, but as far as I'm aware that hasnt been promised. Maybe I've been out of the loop though - where did you hear this?

If I remember correctly, it's since YoshiP trying to make some outfit to unisex to support trans community.

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Originally Posted by Nightingaile

I would love that, but as far as I'm aware that hasnt been promised. Maybe I've been out of the loop though - where did you hear this?

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they plan to slowly remove gender lock from items
like butler/maid set etc etc,
Frontier set probably happen one day,
why they didn't just make them for all day one probably just to save time.

https://kotaku.com/we-took-a-bold-st...ect-1835098319

Very last question at the bottom. It looks like money and they are playing it safe. Not all regions that FF 14 reach are as accepting.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

they plan to slowly remove gender lock from items
like butler/maid set etc etc,
Frontier set probably happen one day,
why they didn't just make them for all day one probably just to save time.

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Ah I see, interesting!

I hope they someday do the same with the job poses!

PLEEEEASE LET THEM DO THE SAME WITH THE DAMN JOB POSES! *begs*

I’d rather them make new clothes and gear then go back to redo old stuff just so males can wear a female’s stuff.

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

If I remember correctly, it's since YoshiP trying to make some outfit to unisex to support trans community.

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Wouldnt they play the prefered sex anyway? Why play a male character if you want to play as a female?

In the current forum climate, this thread smells like bait.

But to answer it seriously, I think headgear should generally be unlocked even if sets are gender-specific overall. There's not going to be much difference in shape besides a bit of rescaling work. Things like Cid's goggles should have been made unisex ages ago.

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Originally Posted by Juun

Wouldnt they play the prefered sex anyway? Why play a male character if you want to play as a female?

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They would. I know some myself. They don't play as catboys in dresses with ribbons on their head...

At least the OP is actually asking the correct question, which is why do female characters have more options than male characters?
Instead of just being upset about it and then demanding that female gear becomes the same as male.

Proud of that random mother, such a good mother. Protecting her child

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Originally Posted by Jin-

Proud of that random mother, such a good mother. Protecting her child

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https://imgur.com/qG7b0cA o.o

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

At least the OP is actually asking the correct question, which is why do female characters have more options than male characters?
Instead of just being upset about it and then demanding that female gear becomes the same as male.

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Men get a hat with their counterpart gearset. I'm pretty sure that's gender-locked too.

Also, what hair decorations can you think of that men would use but women would not?

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Originally Posted by Juun

Wouldnt they play the prefered sex anyway? Why play a male character if you want to play as a female?

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I already have female alts only to make her use Frontier Ribbon. But don't you think it's funny they already make bridesmaid's dress unisex (which has ribbon on it) but not the Frontier Ribbon?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Men get a hat with their counterpart gearset. I'm pretty sure that's gender-locked too.

Also, what hair decorations can you think of that men would use but women would not?

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The hat variant is just about to same with others, such as Peacelover Hat.

I’ve seen lots of male characters look fantastic in female garb. Not just cringe crossdressing, but legit looked like female characters.

I saw a male, but feminine Au ra in the schoolgirl uninform and legit thought he looked like the stereotypical athletic-anime-sporty-girl until I got a better look. Could easily have passed for a girl with a typical swimmer’s body.

..so I see no issue in allowing other such glamour.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

At least the OP is actually asking the correct question, which is why do female characters have more options than male characters?

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thats due to how men dress irl, mens fashion in general since the 1900s has been pretty basic in the west and is only starting to diversify now. where you might have 4 variations of the same outfit idea on a female model with dresses, skirts, trousers and shorts, the same can only really come in two variations that are "socially acceptable" if made for a male model. And even then shorts cut above the thigh would get a bit of side eye.

either the devs stick to what is acceptable and churn out limited variation but inoffensive designs (probably making 10+ identical looking trouser options in the process), or design varied outfits that might be derided as too flamboyant for the intended audience. see "why aren't there more manly man hairstyles" for examples of this approach backfiring.


edit: for clarity, i don't think gear should be gender locked at all, its a waste of design and texturing resources. wear what you want the fashion police aint real

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Originally Posted by Lihtleita

thats due to how men dress irl, mens fashion in general since the 1900s has been pretty basic in the west and is only starting to diversify now. where you might have 4 variations of the same outfit idea on a female model with dresses, skirts, trousers and shorts, the same can only really come in two variations that are "socially acceptable" if made for a male model. And even then shorts cut above the thigh would get a bit of side eye.

either the devs stick to what is acceptable and churn out limited variation but inoffensive designs (probably making 10+ identical looking trouser options in the process), or design varied outfits that might be derided as too flamboyant for the intended audience. see "why aren't there more manly man hairstyles" for examples of this approach backfiring.


edit: for clarity, i don't think gear should be gender locked at all, its a waste of design and texturing resources. wear what you want the fashion police aint real

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Yeah the problem imo is not that female characters get skirts, shorts, dresses etc.
It's that male clothing is too limited and repetitive.
If anything mens clothing has more to learn from womens clothing than the other way around, but people just see some exposed skin and they flip out and it per usual ends up being about covering women up instead of giving men more options.

That's why I think it's refreshing whenever I see threads that are not obsessing about wanting female characters to have less options but instead wants to expand them to male characters too.
Because normally threads and comments about this tends to be ranting about how male characters got pants while they got a skirt or shorts.
When in reality the latter actually adds more variety to the gear than the former which imo is a positive.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

That's why I think it's refreshing whenever I see threads that are not obsessing about wanting female characters to have less options but instead wants to expand them to male characters too.
Because normally threads and comments about this tends to be ranting about how male characters got pants while they got a skirt or shorts.
When in reality the latter actually adds more variety to the gear than the former which imo is a positive.

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I'm not a person who into wearing skirt but I don't mind using "girly" accessories such as Frontier Ribbon or even the Makai Markswoman's Ribbon for funsies... Do we have to wait 3 years again like bunny's outfit to make this happen? :(