Let's get right into it. 15 Glamour plates simply is not enough. There are tons of armor and weapon combinations that no doubt someone somewhere worked either tirelessly to create and/or equally to acquire in game.
I currently only play 1 class, Dark Knight, and with that one class alone I have filled every single plate with a unique glam of my character. I'm sure you all understand how long it can take to complete a glam, especially if it requires you to continuously grind content using party finder (if you know, you know). These armor sets are used to match the "look" of my friends when we go into instances, or even to capture my mood for the day. Glamour really makes the experience, and at this point I somewhat feel like a collector that has run out of shelf space. And with even more content and items coming out in the upcoming months with the release of Endwalker, I can't help but lament the idea of having to remove glamours from these plates to make space for new ones. A lot of us have worked hard to acquire a lot of these items, armor pieces, etc. in order to customize our character to what fits our "fashion fantasy" - currently there aren't even enough Glamour Plates (15) for each DoW/DoM class available (18)
Though I am not entirely sure the challenges it may create on a developers end to increase the amount of glamour plates provided, I do believe there is a big demand in the community for a significant increase in the number or plates available.
1. Add Glamour Plates as rewards for progressing MSQ
2. Add Glamour Plates as rewards for achievements*
3. Add an event in the Golden Saucer with the rewards being additional Glamour Plates
4. Add "Additional Glamour Plates" as a purchasable item in the MogStation (Ex: $5 for 2 plates, $10 for 5 plates. $30 for 25 plates)
This all creates avenues in which the player can engage with the game/community or just help support the game's growth financially.
Let's also bring into light that Glamour Dressers are currently not accessible inside personal or free company homes.
This is also a glaring issue, as it's already hard enough to acquire a plot of land, and the amount of time and gil spent on making the house look nice, the amount of gil to actually purchase a private chamber, and I can't even change my clothes in there. Unfortunately, I have to travel to a foreign city to go to a hotel just to change my clothes. Please allow me to put a Glamour Dresser in my private chamber so I can try on all my legendary outfits within the comfort of my own home :)
Thank you to the devs for listening to the community, you've truly made an unmatchable experience for the players investing in your game and for that I feel I cannot thank you enough.
Best Regards,
The Dark Knight of Legend
{Glamour Plates} {Can I have it?}
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08-02-2021, 08:55 AMHichiru{Glamour Plates} {Can I have it?}
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08-02-2021, 09:07 AMTAS
I like this. Considering all the gear we've gotten to this point and all the gear we'll get in Endwalker, I would like some extra glam plates. It's always hard choose which plate I have to get rid of in order to make a new set.
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08-03-2021, 03:31 AMItMeNo thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hichiru
They should be working to make more plate space for everyone, not charge extra for them to already paying customers. Maybe if FF14 were a 1 time purchase instead of a monthly fee... but as is this sort of feature has no place in the mog station. -
08-03-2021, 04:40 AMscorcher
I agree with this post entirely. Moving into Endwalker with fifteen glams would be really depressing. I'm sure plenty of people like myself still use armor sets from ARR for their glams, and factoring in all the content I mean in all seriousness... fifteen was never enough to begin with. I would even go as far as to say we should get some for free, along with more that you actually earn in game. The most notable thing from this post though in my opinion is that glamours do in fact make the gameplay much more enjoyable overall. It can go down to a personal level, making moments with other players and friends.
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08-03-2021, 05:45 AMSlimeSama
I've been waiting for a thread like this, 15 plates is not enough especially when you take into account all of the different classes you can play and class specific gear across them all, more glamour plates is a justifyable addition to the late game and ever paying player
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08-03-2021, 06:31 AMPayadopaAre you insane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hichiru
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08-03-2021, 06:47 AMElladie
My understanding is that SE aren't restricting glamour (number of plates, number of slots in the dresser, only being able to change in cities) because they want to be difficult. It is down to the limitations of the old coding and server load. I'm sure Yoshi P would love to give us a transmog system like WoW's or as many glamour plates as we yearn for, but his hands are tied.
I also believe that he hopes this will change at some point in the future, but it is dependent on other, more fundamental changes taking place. He said something to that effect in the last Q&A. As an example of what I mean - we're getting increased space for rings in the armoury but only because we're losing belts. We can't have more glamour plates etc (or not lots more currently) because of technical limitations -
08-03-2021, 07:03 AMHichiruI can't tell you how great it feels to have matching armor sets with my FC and friends while doing Savage Content. I honestly feel so bad when FC members run out of Glamour Plates knowing they have like 3 plates set to our "FC outfits." Obviously it's still a choice to choose which outfits are saved to your plates but this just shouldn't be a problem imo; at least not to the degree of having only 15 plates to choose from. In all honestly I could see implementing over 50 Glamour Plates which would allow players to create and express themselves freely.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorcher
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08-03-2021, 07:04 AMHichiruExactly! I have so many legendary weapons, each have their own unique armor set... What will I do when there are even more aesthetics I want to add to my Fashion Fantasy collectionQuote:
Originally Posted by TAS
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08-03-2021, 07:04 AMHichiruQuite possibly. I would gladly purchase more glamour plates if this meant it was the only viable option for the developers to increase the limit. As I said early I would not expect them to implement all of my suggestions, I just want to keep a broad consideration for all parties involved. With this suggestion in particular I would also keep in mind that there would most definitely be a cap regardless of the varying acquisition options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Payadopa
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08-03-2021, 07:07 AMHichiruYeah I totally understand that perspective, this was just one of the way I felt may be considered if this was considered from a developer's stand point. Again I don't know of the tasks presented to the devs when considering something like this so "optional purchase" was an option that maybe could give incentive to those that would have to work on detailing such a topic. I don't expect all of my suggestions for how to tackle the problem to be used nor do I expect there to be only one way of adding the number of Glamour Plates for the players. There most definitely should be a flat raise from the current 15 plates and then additional options beyond that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItMe
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08-03-2021, 07:08 AMHichiruExactly! I know so many veterans that have over half if not every single class including DoH/DoL leveled up to level 80! That's 29 separate classes!Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimeSama
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08-03-2021, 07:23 AMHichiruThank you for sharing this, I had no idea Yoshi P had somewhat touched on this topic already! This totally makes sense that they would be stuck in a bit of a bind due to some coding reasons that are well beyond my knowledge. This is particularly why I suggested something like a "optional purchase" that, even if in any insignificant manor, could help incentivize the process for the devs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elladie
FFXIV is one of the few if not the only game I know of, where I feel that the money that is put into the game directly translates into the quality. Many games of today's age will continuously take the players money with little or no improvement of the game. If Yoshi P himself said that there just isn't enough man power/funding to tackle this problem before Endwalker or early patches of the expansion I would gladly choose to assist financially. Assuming it would even help in the first place. -
08-03-2021, 08:56 AMBeccafofecca
I'm not entirely sure what a solution would be either, whether it's just increasing the cap in general, adding them as rewards, or as purchase for optional item on the mogstation, but I do know that a lot of us have multiple glams for 1 class.
I think a lot about the addition of classes in Endwalker and how much excited I am to play Sage and collect the weapons! But I know that's going to require me to get rid of a bunch of glamours that I've grinded/put a bunch of hours in to create, and the idea really bums me out :c -
08-03-2021, 02:51 PMHichiruIt definitely burns me out thinking that I would really have to choose between using these older weapons I've spent hours grinding/looting for or the newer aesthetics that undoubtedly will have to spend hours to acquire only to have to give those up too someday with the lack of Glamour spaceQuote:
Originally Posted by Beccafofecca
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08-05-2021, 01:27 AMAlmagnus1
Here's a thought:
SE just gives us another 10 glamour plates with the new expansion, then like like jobs+1 plates for each future expansion.
The only thing that makes sense with glamour plates is to tie their unlock to the number of classes and jobs you have unlocked, and that's it. They shouldn't be MSQ rewards, and they shouldn't be available in the store.
Keep it simple, keep it straight forward - exactly like most of the other systems in FFXIV. -
08-05-2021, 03:04 AMCaitlyn
Also more slots in the glamour dresser!
800 or more! -
08-05-2021, 06:22 AMAlmagnus1Tbh, I'd prefer having an unlockable index of gear similar to the WoW transmog system... which would help IMMENSELY when putting together a glam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caitlyn
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08-05-2021, 09:06 AMCallinonStop asking for more things to pay extra for in a subscription game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hichiru
I want more glamour space too. What we have now is woefully inadequate, especially after we add two more jobs. But that space should be made available to everyone. We pay monthly for this, it's not a free-to-play game. -
08-05-2021, 09:22 AMCaitlynIndeed. But you have to rework the entire item system. Belts are going to removed, so thats a good step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almagnus1
But it may help to remove all gear with the same 3D modell, making the amount of items lower. Otherwise, the list of items could get really long.
On the other hand, having a book with all gearsets may encourage players to collect them all. Maybe some special gear as reward when you managed to complete x gearsets.
At the moment, glamours are clustered. They are stored in your glamour dresser, retainers, sattle bag, inventory, arsenal and armoire. Good luck to get your gear together xD -
08-06-2021, 12:01 AMAlmagnus1Just tie it to achievements and have the players feed the glamor dresser the gear to unlock the appearance for that set. This way players will have more incentive to retread older content, especially if they are incentivized to head off of the beaten path in some of the ARR instances because that will help get them more loot, and unlock the glamors faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caitlyn
Eh, just have it based around what's in the armoire and what's in the glamour dresser, like how we do now for the glamour plates. It would be nice if there was a checklist for the Armoire and it actually held ALL of our artifact gear (as it would pull the WHM artifact gear out of the Glamour Dresser). Methinks the entire concept of Glamour Dresser and Armoire needs to be reworked, as it was great back in the day, but it's a bit clunky and not terribly intuitive now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Caitlyn
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08-07-2021, 08:59 AMHichiruKeeping it simple, I love that. Were it only that easy I'm sure they would have done it by now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Almagnus1
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08-07-2021, 09:01 AMHichiruI'd say why not over 9000! Lol jk but I totally agree I could really use a lot more wiggle room with the Glamour Chess Inventory Space as well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Caitlyn
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08-07-2021, 09:06 AMBeccafofeccaWhen I first started acquiring glams I thought that 400 was a pretty decent size. But after witnessing some of my friends who have multiple classes maxed out and all the gear they've collected, I know it's def not enough lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Caitlyn
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08-07-2021, 09:18 AMHichiruOh it's not free to play? That must be why SE keeps taking money out of my account, silly me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Callinon
It can be made available to everyone and still be a purchasable "option" much like dye that you can purchase as an "option" in the mogstation and equally create/purchase with in game currency. If this "option" gives the developers that will work to fix this nightmare an incentive to fix this problem, which clearly has no easy solution, I'd be all for it.
I mean, I have bills to pay just like everyone else but at the end of the day this was just a suggestion and an option to provide a solution to a situation that seemingly is at a stand still. Currently I see no other threads providing any feedback on the issue. -
08-07-2021, 10:53 AMAlmagnus1The issue isn't that the UI design or implementation is simple, it's that you've (likely) got a whole bunch of stuff on the backend and other parts of the codebase we can't see that screwing with it by adding another glamour plate may cause lag somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hichiru
MMOs are difficult things to keep going well, and there's likely more to this than what we're seeing. -
08-07-2021, 10:54 AMAlmagnus1That's also why I want to move to a more WoW-esque transmog dictionary, as the glamour dresser is an interesting idea... but woefully inadequate for what we want to do in FFXIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beccafofecca
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08-07-2021, 11:55 AMCallinonI mean the fact is we've been talking about this exact issue for like 5 or 6 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hichiru
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08-08-2021, 02:15 AMHichiruI don't doubt that, but point me to the thread because I am new here and I don't see any threads talking about this so maybe I just can't find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callinon
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08-09-2021, 01:20 AMHichiruI totally agree, I have absolutely no idea what happens with anything dealing with code. I'm only wondering what we can do as a player base to lend support the situation. SE has taken care of us for years listening to our feedback on this game, I just wish there were more we could do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almagnus1
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08-09-2021, 02:07 AMRobotukas
What they need is to do is make a system like wow transmog but just more improved. I don't like the current system in this game because you have to keep items that don't have any value in the next expansion, only how to look. It looks like here transmog system is built in old fashion way. At the moment the wow wardrobe system is the best.
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08-09-2021, 02:54 AMAlmagnus1If they did a system like that, I would like it to be able to tell me where to get the gear, but still let me use the gear to compose a glam. IMO the "unlocked" gear to use in glams should be based around whatever gear you have given it. As we have the replicas for most of the relic weapon steps, that would work out well as the rest of the gear is largely doable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robotukas
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08-09-2021, 10:11 AMHichiruI really love this idea actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almagnus1