Easyest class to use for healer

I have a brother who is a bit mentaly behind.
My other brother and me downloaded the Combo addon on hos laptop and combined that with some ingame macros so he basicly has a GNB and MCH with 4 Button gameplay so he can play with us.
Now he wants to play as our healer but i have no idea how i am going to make this work.
I dont play healer myself and my brother just leveld his healer with the pvp roullete (switching to dps inside pvp)
Please dont start about the macros being a loss of DPS. he only plays with us and we dont mind all of that.

Anyone an idea what the most friendly and easy healer class is? and some macros for less buttons.

White Mage.

You can spam Cure, Cure II, Medica II and clear any content below Savage.

Throw in some Stone or Holy if there's nothing to heal and there's your 4 button rotation.

As for macros,

/micon "Stone"
/merror off
/ac "Stone" <t>
/ac "Stone" <tt>

And

/micon "Aero"
/merror off
/ac "Aero" <t>
/ac "Aero" <tt>

Is all you need, this allows you to use DPS abilities as long as you're targeting an ally and said ally is targeting an enemy.

Low level? Scholar hands down. The fairy makes it easy mode and can cover if you're struggling a bit.

Level 60 or higher? White Mage hands down. Thin Air + PoM is insane, and coupled with Lucid Dreaming you have zero mana issues.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Low level? Scholar hands down. The fairy makes it easy mode and can cover if you're struggling a bit.

Level 60 or higher? White Mage hands down. Thin Air + PoM is insane, and coupled with Lucid Dreaming you have zero mana issues.

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He's asking for a healer for his "mentally behind" brother, why are you recommending him the healer with the most buttons and the most difficult playstyle?

The fairy won't keep the party alive by herself, SCH has a shitton of buttons, a lot interactions between abilities that you have to understand very well, a more complex DPS rotation compared to other healers, and requires you to play proactively rather than reactively.

Please don't listen to this guy.

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Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar

Please don't listen to this guy.

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No, they've got a point.
For low level stuff SCH is def the easiest if only because the fairy's auto heals do so much. In ARR dungeons it's pretty common for me to only throw out a heal or two during the entire dungeon because of the fairy.

In higher level content the potency of it's heals falls away as the rest of your kit gets fleshed out, but man it's passive contributions should not be underestimated for early content.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

No, they've got a point.
For low level stuff SCH is def the easiest if only because the fairy's auto heals do so much. In ARR dungeons it's pretty common for me to only throw out a heal or two during the entire dungeon because of the fairy.

In higher level content the potency of it's heals falls away as the rest of your kit gets fleshed out, but man it's passive contributions should not be underestimated for early content.

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I know the fairy helps at very low levels but what's the point of that? He will eventually level up and realize that the job is too complex, his hotbar is gonna explode with so many buttons and he will have to start leveling WHM anyways.

So why not start with WHM directly instead of wasting time.

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Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar

I know the fairy helps at very low levels but what's the point of that? He will eventually level up and realize that the job is too complex, his hotbar is gonna explode with so many buttons and he will have to start leveling WHM anyways.

So why not start with WHM directly instead of wasting time.

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WHM in lower level content is very punishing. You HAVE to pay attention because it’s like the least fleshed out healer at those lower levels.

They have a point - and I’m pretty sure OP is willing to help level as needed.

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Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar

I know the fairy helps at very low levels but what's the point of that? He will eventually level up and realize that the job is too complex, his hotbar is gonna explode with so many buttons and he will have to start leveling WHM anyways.

So why not start with WHM directly instead of wasting time.

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Stop exagerrating will you ?
Not only Deceptus' right, but SCH has become more accessible now.

White Mage is going to be it i think. i can do a macro like /ac "cure" <1> to 4 with the 1-4 Icons if he has problems selecting his target (playing with controller) and do the macros Marc-Vigar said. we can do without him DPSing but maybe getting him to pull it off would be fun for him.
Invited him to play this game so we can stimulate his brain a bit. but got scared we would over do it with healing.
But thanks everyone! will try this out and see if he likes it !

WHM is a cruddy healer early on, it's true - but going single pull to single pull it's gonna be fine and bots have long gotten through parties with medica spam. It's only compared to others that WHM comes up obviously short pre-50, but I think medica/medica2 spam alone will make it very functional for this situation. It's powerful for someone to have a multi-purpose healing option that doesn't require targeting in this case and will function well all through 80. While fairy does a lot without anything at all, I think M2 will ultimately carry further mostly due to succor's functionality, and being able to put a regen macro in place would do a ton for tank healing too. Both jobs would likely be fine though.

I'd like to add a suggestion for this more unique circumstance:

For whichever job is selected, consider adding Lucid Dreaming to a DoT macro. Or a regen macro if you go with WHM. For instance if using the aero macro posted earlier-

/micon "Aero"
/merror off
/ac "Aero" <t>
/ac "Aero" <tt>
/wait 1
/ac "Lucid Dreaming"

It's one less thing he'll have to keep track of that healers do need to press semi-frequently. Could do the same with things like aetherflow or thin air if he's having difficulty with them.
Sure, it's not ideal to be pressing it like that at all, but if we're trying to eliminate button presses I think it could help. It's a CD he won't need to pay attention to.

You may want to consider doing this with other abilities too, such as assize or divine benison. With a /wait of 2 they should be able to activate after a Cure and possibly Cure 2.
For benison in particular, I'd suggest
/ac "Divine Benison" <2> so it's always going on the tank (if default party sorting)

None of these outside of lucid will really be needed for what you're describing, but there won't be any real harm throwing them in the macros and it'll only make him stronger than not pressing them at all, all without needing any extra attention from him.

I think you could get by with a 5ish button healer this way via cure/cure2/medica (replace with m2 later)/stone macro/DoT macro.

Could even combine DoT/Regen into one macro if you feel like it and are going WHM:
/micon "Regen"
/merror off
/ac "Regen" <2>
/wait 1
/ac "Lucid Dreaming"
/wait 2
/ac "Aero" <t>
/ac "Aero" <tt>
/wait 1
/ac "Some other oGCD" <2>

That should be a 3s wait so both GCDs should activate - Regen on the tank then Aero on his target or target's target. Tell him to press it now and then (every 30s) and it might work well for him?

Another I'd consider putting off to the side: A swiftcast/wait/raise macro:
/micon "Swiftcast"
/merror off
/ac "Swiftcast"
/wait 1
/ac "Raise" <2>
/ac "Raise" <3>
/ac "Raise" <4>
(Through 8 if needed for 8m content)
(Also replace Raise with whichever resurrection spell is used)
It's been awhile since I've dealt with macro nuances but I think that one should raise the first dead person in the party list without timing/error issues. Make it big, make it obvious, let him know if he ever sees someone dead, press that one.

Depending on how he plays, it could be worth separating hotbars so one is for healing and one is for any damage macros. If he clicks, having a clear visual separation could help? Depends on how he goes about things, and you'll know far more than any of us there.
Edit: Oh, just saw you say he plays with controller, my bad

Edit: I also suggest one of you may want to play bard alongside. Warden's Paean can be used to cover some of the harsher debuffs if Esuna ends up difficult for him, particularly if he finds himself silenced or 30s paralyzed. Or you can echo drops/spine drops him - it's just Warden's is ranged, potions aren't.

All 3 healers have 4 button options. It's more about what content you expose your brother to. FC 4 and 8 man groups running Leveling and Main Scenario roulette every day will get his Healer to 80 quicker than you think.

Just because it's the only level 1 healer, Conjurer Whm is the ideal choice. Put a Rdm in the group have them focus the tank and avoid telegraphs. For 8 man, have a healer with experience.

If you are always playing together playing scholar should be fine with the added benefit of the fairy.

Though eventually he might get access to a lot of abilities he doesn't have to use all of them.

If one of you is playing tank in your group with him you can play paladin with him, later on you get clemency as a paladin that can help your brother in sticky situations with heals. They also have other support abilities to make his experience smoother.

You can bind dps macros for his dot and casted nuke like suggested for white mage so he can target the tank mostly, then bind adloquium and lustrate for single target healing. For aoe succor. You can even leave out lustrate for 4 binds.

Of course summoning the fairy is an extra bind, but once it's summoned it will stay out unless he dies.

With the above he might have to spam the heals more and not dps as much, but if you are doing mostly normal content and you pull dungeons at his pace you will be ok. It might be a bit slower but it would be doable.

If you or your other brother has a healer one of you can heal with him in content with 2 healers.

Its perfectly fine for him to play with limited binds if he gets to enjoy the game!

White Mage in places like Dusk Vigil during levelling roulette can be truly awful without emergency buttons, no holy, no thin air, no... nothing, really... but only if you're in a roulette with wall-to-wall tank-sprouts who probably think that it's wise to save CD's for bosses while they double pull AoE dragons and Ice Crystal packs into an inevitable CureII spamming blitzkrieg of desperation.

Pains me to say it, but if you want a healer fit for what the OP describes, then it seems to me that organizing the "Nightmare" WHM is the best bet -- a setup that makes it easy to plop Regen on people, give them easy access to Medica II, Cure II, and then whatever damage buttons you can get them to add to the four-button setup. Unless people flub mechanics, there's very few dungeons that regenerative spells won't prepare you for by themselves. Alas, it means you'll be stuck with the token regen-pre-pull overheal med-II spammer who does very little damage, but it can get the job done. Eeventually. Kinda.

i made him a single target heal
/ac "Benediction"
/ac "Tetragrammaton"
/ac "Afflatus Solace"
/ac "Cure II"
/ac "Cure"

a group heal
/ac "Plenary Indulgence"
/ac "Afflatus Rapture"
/ac "Medica"
/micon "Medica"

The raise
/ac "Swiftcast"
/wait 1
/ac "Raise"

and for dps
/ac "Glare" <t>
/ac "Glare" <tt>
and
/ac "Dia" <t>
/ac "Dia" <tt>

We dont think he wil ever get hight enough for all those skills nut added them just in case.

For GNB we did this
/ac "Bloodfest"
/ac "No Mercy"
/ac "Rough Divide"
/ac "Gnashing Fang"
/ac "Continuation"
/ac "Savage Claw"
/ac "Wicked Talon"
/ac "Sonic Break"
/ac "Bow Shock"
/ac "Blasting Zone"
/ac "Burst Strike"
/ac "Solid Barrel"

***
/ac "Fated Circle"
/ac "Demon Slaughter"
/micon "Demon Slaughter"

***
/ac "Reprisal"
/ac "Arm's Length"
/ac "Rampart"
/ac "Camouflage"
/ac "Nebula"
/ac "Heart of Stone"

Are they a button masher or do they hit a button and wait to see what happens? For people who like mashing buttons I wouldnt recommend using a wait command becuase it will wait a second from each time they press the key to try to use Raise. If you remove the wait command it will start the raise as soon as its available the next time they press the key. It all just depends on how they interact with the macro. Benediction also has a delay so they might double tap and use Tetragrammaton after Benediction. If you place Afflatus Solace first, then Tetragrammaton, then Benediction they will inadvertently use the skills in a more a beneficial way by allowing them to weave the lower cooldown free skills first. I would also recommend using multiple lines of each spell. Two or three of each to help guarantee things happen in the desired order. So three Aflatus Solace, then three Tetras, and three Benediction etc. For Tanking definitely put Heart of Stone first and Camouflage second since the cooldown is so low they will be back before they make it thru the rest of the skills quite often. It will give them more usage and more effective mitigation as well.

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Originally Posted by KrissMalebranche

a group heal
/ac "Plenary Indulgence"
/ac "Afflatus Rapture"
/ac "Medica"
/micon "Medica"

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I'd slot Medica II in above Medica, once you get Medica II it's straight up superior in most cases. Also wouldn't hurt to slot Asylum <t> and Assize in there too, perhaps with a 1 sec /wait after Dia. Another option is mouseover for single target healing and then Glare/Dia don't even need a macro and he can just keep the boss targeted the whole time.

Remember to repeat the important lines as many times as you can fit into the macro to reduce the chance of the macro failing. You can also use:

/ac "Swiftcast"
/wait 1
/ac "Raise" <2>
/ac "Raise" <3>
/ac "Raise" <4>

...too, so that he doesn't even need to click the Raise target (add more lines if you're doing 8 man content). Good luck and hope he enjoys the game :)

Scholar has a huge healing advantage most scholars kinda forget about - EVERYTHING is instacast. When you are new and suck at mechanics, standing to hard cast EVERYTHING as a white mage is really hard and sucky. White Mages don't really get alot of instacast until 70-80, but even then they still hard cast far more spells than other healers.

The easy answer is White Mage.
It's the most straightforward and basic healing class without any extra gimmicks.
It performs extremely well in any content, from the easiest dungeons at the beginning of the game, to end-game savage content.

Put assize and an on target asylum for the aoe macro

For the raise put thin air right before this will avoid some frustration if he's low mana and can't rew

You can use spine drops on others? Confused.