No love for Crystal Chronicles?

Haven’t found much references, armor, hairstyle from FFCC, I’d love it if the devs got some in.

I’m not asking for a full blown crossover; but it’s just surprising to see.

Give the post a like if you agree, and I’d apreciate any ideas for things the devs could put in!

Crystal Chronicles was a huge part of my childhood but unfortunately I don't think it sold well or left a mark on many fans. Plus it's not a numbered FF game and exists outside of everything else. There was a legacy title called "Crystal Bearer" which could potentially be a small nod to them but I don't think there's anything other than that.


As for ideas, it would be neat if there was a miasma-filled dungeon with mechanics around it, sort of like a more advanced version of Aurum Vale. But considering everyone's attitude toward that dungeon, I don't would go down well...

Maybe a boss with a mechanic that puts different spell effects on each player and you need to combine the spell effects to make a different spell that does something? That would be neat.

Or a plant-based beast tribe like the lilty. Or an animated armor tribe like the yukes. CC had some interesting concepts.

Since it appears the devs will keep adding 2 classes every expansion but we're quickly running out of weapon/class ideas, they could steal rackets from the selkie and have another RDM-like class that bounces back from melee to ranged.

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As for ideas, it would be neat if there was a miasma-filled dungeon with mechanics around it, sort of like a more advanced version of Aurum Vale. But considering everyone's attitude toward that dungeon, I don't would go down well...

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Fun Fact, in version 1 Aurum Vale was filled with poisonous gas and you had to find safe spots to dps pulls and consume plants you found around the dungeon to avoid taking damage from said gas as you moved around the dungeon, which was about 2-3 times larger than it currently is (as were Dzaemal Darkhold and thousand maws, the other 2 version 1 dungeons)....and it was absolutely, positively horrible.

Crystal what? *googles* I forgot all about this.

I love Crystal Chronicles and it's such a comfy game. Thanks for bringing it up! I was telling a friend the other day that I wish there was an FF MMO or even another numbered series game that followed the 9/CC type of aesthetic.

It'd be cool to at least see something from CC make its way into XIV. A few things they could do:

Simply tell and don't show. Allude to some of the CC races existing somewhere in the lore, or use a place name, etc. It'd require very little work. Yukes are one of my favorite FF races and it'd be cool to even hear that they exist somewhere in the world. Some of the CC races would be jarring to see in XIV's world but I think something like Yukes might even work as a possible beast tribe.

Make glamour sets based off some of the player models in CC. I think some of the Selkie and Clavat sets would be possible to pull off and would be pretty cute.

Do a dungeon as an homage to CC. With places like Matoya's Relict, The Antitower, and Grand Cosmos this doesn't seem very farfetched to me. I think Moschet Manor would be a really good candidate for a dungeon.

Trouble is, CC is not just a spinoff game, it's a spinoff series, and SE haven't really been too interested in referencing directly spinoffs, save for that subtle jab at Mystic Quest with that black sheep called 'Benjamin' in a sidequest at Camp Dragonhead - the Ivalice games only ended up being referenced with a raid series due to one of it's number being a main series game (FFXII). And worse, is the original CC was made by a splinter team from Square who had to keep their identities secret by forming a semi-independent development company to get around Nintendo's then prickly relationship with Square, or so the story goes (as I understand it, many of the original FFCC team members were ex FFIX team members, hence the similar art style).

So it's likely Nintendo probably has claims to that particular IP (Nintendo being famously very possessive of licensing of games on their consoles) which makes a FFCC event or something similar in FFXIV very very unlikely I'm sorry to say.

I would love FFCC WHM robes!

https://i.imgur.com/1T5xTLt.jpg

I would love Lilty glamour pieces.
They're WHY I went Lala.

I remember playing CC so many years ago and i fell in love with it. My favorite dungeon was Mochet’s Manor and it would’ve been cool if wanderer’s palace had its ost as a subtle nod to the tonberry themed dungeon.

One thing I forgot to mention was the soundtrack. I still think the FF:CC soundtrack is one of the best done in the whole FF series and the composer went out of her way to include a lot of medieval instruments like the crumhorn to give the game a very specific feel and it would be nice if SE took inspiration from that and had added some tracks that don't use typical modern orchestral instruments and get more of an old feel.

I loved that game but as it was stated before, it probably left to small a mark or was not known enough to be deemed important enough for a FFXIV crossover/event.

At least I can get a crystal caravan mount in the cash shop

Crystal Chronicles was my favorite childhood game, always going to my friend's house to play with him and his sister...I would love some references to it, I even made a hyur girl once with the long brown hair cos it reminded me of clavats. Even just an armor set would be nice.

Ahhh yes the game that let me draw di........dice on moogles.

Crystal Chronicles was basically my first Final Fantasy. I got super hyped when it came out for Switch/PS years later.

Unfortunately, I know it's not a well known game in the series, since it was on Nintendo and wasn't a numbered episode.

I would've loved to get a papaopamus' minion for exemple, it could be so adorable !

It wasn't a bad game (what little of it I played at least) and I wouldn't be opposed to a crossover...but I'm not exactly cheering it on either. Wasn't an FF I particularly liked.

I'm currently replaying it atm. Its a clear cash grab as it is probably one of the laziest remakes to date but the charm is still there and I do enjoy it in short bursts, having played the og gamecube with the gba's. Also I would recommend people avoid using female selkie mimics if you are playing on the PS5 via PS4 backwards compatibility, since there is a game breaking bug that puts you in an infinite load screen. The cash shop items might also be affected so buyer beware.

That said, I also thought a crossover of the 4 race gears would fit pretty well in FFXIV.
-Clavats = Hyur, Viera
-Lilties = Lalafell, Roegadyn
-Yukes = Elezen, Aura
-Selkie = Miqote, Hrothgar

Crystal Chronicles are spin-off games and I would prefer if they never mixed with Final Fantasy XIV or any other main (numbered) game.


I tried several times to play those Crystal Chronicles but frankly they were boring and kiddy-like, and the chibi-style also made it less appealing for my tastes.

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Crystal Chronicles are spin-off games and I would prefer if they never mixed with Final Fantasy XIV or any other main (numbered) game.


I tried several times to play those Crystal Chronicles but frankly they were boring and kiddy-like, and the chibi-style also made it less appealing for my tastes.

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Final Fantasy Tactics is a spin-off and Final Fantasy IX has chibi-style graphics and both have already mixed with this game so it’s already too late for that.

Final Fantasy IX is a beautiful game and a main title too.


The chibi-characters do not bother me in the original game, now, after Dissidia there's no way I would accept a FFIX Remake with chibi-style, I hope Square-Enix has that in consideration if they ever decide to make it a reality.


Final Fantasy Tactics and the Crystal Chronicle series are probably just quick money for SE, they just make them to have a presence in handhelds and other less important consoles, they reserve the main dishes for the best systems like PC and the PlayStation 5.


I just don't give much importance to spin-off games, SE can do whatever they want but don't expect me to like them or encourage any type of collaboration.

I think the Developers from FFXIV could learn a thing or two from whoever designed the Dungeons in Crystal Chronicles.

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I think the Developers from FFXIV could learn a thing or two from whoever designed the Dungeons in Crystal Chronicles.

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Dungeons were originally like that in FF14. The players disliked it and would just rush to the end so SE made dungeons how they are now. I believe Wanderer's Palace was the last dungeon they made with multiple paths.

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Dungeons were originally like that in FF14. The players disliked it and would just rush to the end so SE made dungeons how they are now. I believe Wanderer's Palace was the last dungeon they made with multiple paths.

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You mean during 1.0 by chance?

Also, Answers like "because the community didn't like it" without a valid point really makes me lose all hope in this Community. There should be a limit on how narrowminded People should/can be.

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You mean during 1.0 by chance?

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Most ARR dungeons upon release had some explorable areas to them, though some had more than others. Definitely didn't see that much beyond the first couple of post launch patches. They never got rid of the exploration part of the older dungeons. People just stopped bothering. Since there wasn't must interest, the dev team clearly stopped bothering too. The evidence is in the design.

It would have been awesome if the final playable race slot was Yukes. A race of clockwork/magitek androids would have added so much more to FFXIV than yet another variation of baby faced boys. For Yukes, you wouldn't even have to create a male and female model if you wanted to so it'd be more plausible than a race with male and female models.

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Trouble is, CC is not just a spinoff game, it's a spinoff series, and SE haven't really been too interested in referencing directly spinoffs,

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FFXIV also has outfits from The Last Remnant (which is practically a Saga game in all but name), which was directed by Hiroshi Takai (who was the assistant director of FFXIV during ARR and HW is directing FF16).

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

It would have been awesome if the final playable race slot was Yukes. A race of clockwork/magitek androids would have added so much more to FFXIV than yet another variation of baby faced boys. For Yukes, you wouldn't even have to create a male and female model if you wanted to so it'd be more plausible than a race with male and female models.

https://i.imgur.com/lMtGwTG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YVgV55K.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gMf4FZt.jpg
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FFXIV also has outfits from The Last Remnant (which is practically a Saga game in all but name), which was directed by Hiroshi Takai (who was the assistant director of FFXIV during ARR and HW is directing FF16).

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I think it be a beast tribe tbh. However, it be cool to see them.

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It would have been awesome if the final playable race slot was Yukes. A race of clockwork/magitek androids would have added so much more to FFXIV than yet another variation of baby faced boys. For Yukes, you wouldn't even have to create a male and female model if you wanted to so it'd be more plausible than a race with male and female models.

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It's been a long time since I've played Crystal Chronicles but I didn't know they were androids, I always thought they were some kind of weird bird people.

I'm pretty sure the reason behind the races being males and females is to attract players to game, like Korean ones where females are so beautiful.


Not that they can beat us, Miqo'te and Hyur, females both are the prettiest creatures ever.

Crystal Chronicles was garbage.

Frankly, with the exception of FFXIV and the FFVII remake (which I am still slightly on the fence on), all Final Fantasies after IX have been below industry standards when it comes to storytelling. I play games like Valkyria Chronicles and look over at absolutely throw-away narratives like X and XIII and just shake my head.

Thanks to everyone for your ideas & pictures, if even one of these were to make it into the game I’d be over the moon.
I still think that if they were to introduce new clans, which use the same body types / animations, we could end up seeing some of these races.
Glams are a different story, I’m guessing they’d have to introduce a dungeon or something to accompany them.
Mounts & minions would probably have to come from a crossover; and I feel the remake wasn’t good enough to warrant one… ;(

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Crystal Chronicles was garbage.

Frankly, with the exception of FFXIV and the FFVII remake (which I am still slightly on the fence on), all Final Fantasies after IX have been below industry standards when it comes to storytelling. I play games like Valkyria Chronicles and look over at absolutely throw-away narratives like X and XIII and just shake my head.

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The stories of X and XII were below industry standards? Two of the most well beloved FF games of the past 20 years?

That folk OST is NEAT.

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The stories of X and XII were below industry standards? Two of the most well beloved FF games of the past 20 years?

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Your mileage may vary.
In 10 I personally really disliked how much the plot relies on teleporting the party around.

On that note, many characters seem to make bad decisions solely for the sake of the plot trying to manufacture an exciting moment.

The actual beat for beat of the story gets really repetitive, especially with those three totally not Team Rocket stooges so consistently wasting your time and it seems like the characters are constantly rehashing the same conversation without saying anything new. 10 actually made me realize how much of each Final Fantasy game is the party just kind of fumbling around.

And having an obvious villain (Seymour) that everyone is so surprised is actually evil makes for some really limp drama that goes on for far, far too long.

I could continue, but I don’t wanna risk derailing this thread to make it about 10 instead.

Just because people like it doesn't mean it has a good story.

I can't speak for 12, but I don't understand how people can say 10 is above average unless they have a fairly low or resigned opinion of JRPG stories.

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I can't speak for 12, but I don't understand how people can say 10 is above average unless they have a fairly low or resigned opinion of JRPG stories.

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As much as I like most of the FF series in general, X wasn't the best story despite the game being in my top 5 FF. But I also feel like games are more than just the story anyway. Otherwise they would just be visual novels. Like FFVII before it, it was the first one on its console and had cutscenes which blew previous FFs out of the water. I still think it was fun in general. Which leads me into...

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

Crystal Chronicles was garbage.

Frankly, with the exception of FFXIV and the FFVII remake (which I am still slightly on the fence on), all Final Fantasies after IX have been below industry standards when it comes to storytelling. I play games like Valkyria Chronicles and look over at absolutely throw-away narratives like X and XIII and just shake my head.

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Crystal Chronicles was a game made seemingly for a lower age range and released on Nintendo Gamecube. I don't think it was designed to be the most excellent RPG that ever RPG'd so calling it garbage is like criticizing a first-grader's drawing. I had a lot of fun with it when I was a kid and played it with my siblings and friends who all somehow had the annoying GBA adapter cord you needed to do multiplayer with it. I also feel like saying "every FF after a certain specific one is bad" is way to generalistic considering FFI, FFII, FFIII, FFV, FFVIII all had either throw-away plots or just bad stories overall. FFVII is too divisive so I won't swat that hornet nest.

It is funny you mention Valkyria Chronicles though considering VC2 was released on PSP and no one bought it, VC3 wasn't localized in the US, and Revolutions was garbage so that just leaves 1 and 4. But this thread isn't about which RPG series has better stories or even which FF has better stories. It's about people wanting references to older FF games that they enjoyed. If quality of story was the bar a FF game needed to pass to get a reference in FFXIV, we wouldn't have gunblades or Exdeath.

Yukes as a playable race in FFXIV. Show your support.

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