Are they really adding cross-data center visit?

I mean... its a good and bad thing. I'm not sure how I feel about it. What is the purpose?
I left crystal to get away from that vibe. What is the purpose of spending 18$ on transfers then?

Visits come with restrictions. Data center visit was already hinted to have even more restrictions.
And it's also not going to be as smooth. The process requires logging out IIRC.

Anyway visit =/= transferring.

WEll being a wanderer you are limited from joining FC's and I think other stuff. Mu guess is Square Enix has realized they stand to make more money off happy people staying with the game vs trying to milk them for money. I mean technically like literally every other MMO developer they could charge just to goto another server much less a data center.

The purpose is to create more interconnectivity & playability within the fanbase by effectively creating mini-mega servers within their architecture. I have plenty of friends on Crystal & Primal that I cannot interact with outside of alts due to the fact I can only bring my main to servers within aether with the world visit, which makes it hard to play with them on every content since unlocking things like Zadnor take a while and can be a chore to do more than once. With cross world data-center visit, I'd be able to bring my main to any of them and hang out with them in any content. it would also make it easier for players to find statics for raid content as they'd be able to raid on any datacenter without having to physically move there, etc.

Basically, a win all around for playing with friends.

As for actual server transfers, if you want to:

-Join a specific FC
-get Eternally Bonded to someone on a specific server
-get housing on a specific server

You still need to have your character on that specific server as your home world, which the $ cost server transfer will give, so it'll still have plenty of uses.

yes, though yoshi said in the recent live letter that at first it will be limited to region. so no visiting from NA to JP >.> but if you're asking what's the point, that's the point! at least for me. i've been waiting for this since they first announced it. for someone like me, that's like visiting japan (i don't like to travel in rl). in fact, the only alt i have is on jp server for that reason, but then i have to level it separately etc.

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Originally Posted by usernameuwu

What is the purpose?

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To let players play with all their friends, not just friends on the same data center.

Only you know why you spent $18 on a transfer. The game is the same on all data centers. The only advantage to being on Aether is there are more groups listed in PF that can potentially carry you. If you don't need to be carried, you could have found a static on Crystal. They do exist and do clear content regularly, they're just fewer in number because Crystal has fewer players who care about high end raiding.

Why do you think data center travel is a problem?

• There was a data center split, that tore friends apart and SE wanted to find a way to bring them back together.
• Some people play on a server not ideal for their ping and want to be able to visit other data centers for a better ping, then come back to play with friends.
• Some people have friends on multiple data centers but would rather not have multiple characters to play with them.
• Some data centers are known for RP and some data centers are known for raiding and being able to visit them will make it easier to do both things at once.

I wonder if this will be only visit other DCs but just the open world areas, or the duties (dungeons, trials, raids) will select also people from other DCs in Duty Finder. If it is also the second, I think some cross-DC linkshells would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by usernameuwu

Are they really adding cross-data center visit?

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No it's a april joke.

Seems it'll be limited to regions to start. Can only travel to other DC's in North American for example and to Japan or Europe. I suspect other regions will be added later.

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Originally Posted by Con_Carne

I wonder if this will be only visit other DCs but just the open world areas, or the duties (dungeons, trials, raids) will select also people from other DCs in Duty Finder. If it is also the second, I think some cross-DC linkshells would be appreciated.

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I hope duties are included. You go from having one pool of players to three. Some people that can't get certain things done due to shift work might be able to.

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Originally Posted by Con_Carne

I wonder if this will be only visit other DCs but just the open world areas, or the duties (dungeons, trials, raids) will select also people from other DCs in Duty Finder. If it is also the second, I think some cross-DC linkshells would be appreciated.

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It won't select people from other DCs in Duty Finder, because it would have to forcefully transfer their data center prior to you all experiencing the content together. For a feature like that it would have to decide what data center it is happening on and move everyone to it even if it harms their ping. That is not the feature they announced at all.

If you switch data center you will almost certainly be able to queue for duties though, just like you can if you do a paid data center transfer.

Yeah, well see when they start testing it out, but wouldn't be surprised if they locked people out from using Data Center Travel by EW launch, if only for a couple days to a week to keep folks evenly distributed.

I hope they consider the implication on the community when they start combining data centers. Watering down the community for convenience is arguably what started the problems with that other game whose players currently flood the FF XIV data centers. I can't speak for other servers, of course, but getting anything done has, so far, never been an impossibility in FF XIV so the need for the feature seems...questionable at this point, at least from my limited perspective.

And yes, I'll be the first to admit I wouldn't be able to play at the level I did back then (ooof, has it been really that long?) without the conveniences offered by the likes of automated cross-realm LFG, which I'm OK with if it means a healthier game overall.

Can't go outside your region which is balls.

My entire wow guild currently plays on tonberry and will be moving to the Aussie DC when it opens and I was hoping to play with them.

I'm on Phoenix EU.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

• Some data centers are known for RP and some data centers are known for raiding and being able to visit them will make it easier to do both things at once.

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This is the big one imo. Imagine how DC travel will open up the raiding scene in this game. It'll be amazing having the ability to seek out members and statics from all datacenters in the region. Gone are the days when you have to choose between Primal, Aether, and Crystal. That's assuming you can join parties and run duties while DC visiting, which hopefully you can because otherwise there really is no point.

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Originally Posted by marelooke

I hope they consider the implication on the community when they start combining data centers. Watering down the community for convenience is arguably what started the problems with that other game whose players currently flood the FF XIV data centers. I can't speak for other servers, of course, but getting anything done has, so far, never been an impossibility in FF XIV so the need for the feature seems...questionable at this point, at least from my limited perspective.

And yes, I'll be the first to admit I wouldn't be able to play at the level I did back then (ooof, has it been really that long?) without the conveniences offered by the likes of automated cross-realm LFG, which I'm OK with if it means a healthier game overall.

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Huh? There's no downside really. And you don't seem to be considering the impact this change will have for the high-end raiding scene, which could be an immense positive impact. Restricting people in data centers has never been a good thing for the game, why would it be now?

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Originally Posted by Imora

Can't go outside your region which is balls.

My entire wow guild currently plays on tonberry and will be moving to the Aussie DC when it opens and I was hoping to play with them.

I'm on Phoenix EU.

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when the new DC opens, there will be brand new servers, and world transfers to new servers are free

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Originally Posted by usernameuwu

I left crystal to get away from that vibe.

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I mean, all data centers currently have "that vibe" because they all have world visit within data centers.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Seems it'll be limited to regions to start. Can only travel to other DC's in North American for example and to Japan or Europe. I suspect other regions will be added later.

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They more or less confirmed this. I just sincerely hope DF and PF aren't mixed together for all regions because good god, NA and JP players will not get along.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

They more or less confirmed this. I just sincerely hope DF and PF aren't mixed together for all regions because good god, NA and JP players will not get along.

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This is pretty much going to happen, if you are visiting another DC, you'll be on their PF/DF.

People have been able to make on JP servers anyway.

At first it'll be a bit chaotic for the first week or so as the mystique is being explored but it'll quickly wear off and people will only use it for proper purpose later (Kinda like when Balmung was visitable via world visit, server was caked at first due to it's rep, now everyone is just "Meh, so what?")

I do hope that access is gained to other PF's from separate datacenters. Only because it'll make savage and ultimate raiding a bit more easier for me. More access to folk who have similar interests. I don't really RP - at all - so it'll be nice to hang out with more like-minded folk.

From a technical standpoint, Aether, Primal, and Crystal all rest inside the same NTT data center in Sacramento, so it makes sense they are limiting it to region only to start. It should work out fine. It was mentioned previously you'd have to logout to change the data center unlike with world visit, and that's probably because the system has to inject your toon from the lobby to the data center rack you want to go to. So you should have access to all the things like world visit does today, duty/party finder but also without cross-linkshells, retainers, FC buffs, etc.

wonder if Oceania and Jp centers will be able to connect or will Oceania be on its own

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Seems it'll be limited to regions to start. Can only travel to other DC's in North American for example and to Japan or Europe. I suspect other regions will be added later.

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Wheres you read that.. I know a bunch of European people on aether who would quite like to be able to jump on an eu data centre on there days off and speed up queues by playing in eu times. They won't however move permanently because all there friends are on aether.

If itsimited to the same region that'd kinda suck.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

Wheres you read that.. I know a bunch of European people on aether who would quite like to be able to jump on an eu data centre on there days off and speed up queues by playing in eu times. They won't however move permanently because all there friends are on aether.

If itsimited to the same region that'd kinda suck.

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I couldn't find official confirmation either but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

I don't expect cross-region DC visit to be a thing, because I have a feeling japanese players don't want people from other regions visiting their DC.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

wonder if Oceania and Jp centers will be able to connect or will Oceania be on its own

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I imagine by the time Oceania gets added, all regions will be accessible from any data center.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

I couldn't find official confirmation either but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

I don't expect cross-region DC visit to be a thing, because I have a feeling japanese players don't want people from other regions visiting their DC.

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YoshiP said that while cross region won't be available at first, it will come later.

I'm sure stalkers are very excited about this. Do the mods even take those reports seriously to begin with? and now the victims won't even be able to change data centers to get away from them. :/

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

I couldn't find official confirmation either but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

I don't expect cross-region DC visit to be a thing, because I have a feeling japanese players don't want people from other regions visiting their DC.

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YoshiP announced it last week on the 14-hour broadcast LL. It is region only to start, which makes total sense get everything working inside the current data center building before shipping toons down the oceanic pipes.

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Originally Posted by Kyu-Momo

I'm sure stalkers are very excited about this. Do the mods even take those reports seriously to begin with? and now the victims won't even be able to change data centers to get away from them. :/

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To be fair, a major feature not being implemented just because it might be abused would be pretty bad for the game.

I'm a little disappointed that there's no connection between NA and EU servers because I have some friends who wanted to visit me on their main characters rather than alts.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

Huh? There's no downside really. And you don't seem to be considering the impact this change will have for the high-end raiding scene, which could be an immense positive impact. Restricting people in data centers has never been a good thing for the game, why would it be now?

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I do. I was around to see the change in "that other game". If I hadn't been I wouldn't see any negatives either.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

[...]because good god, NA and JP players will not get along.

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As a North American who lived on Tonberry I can't say I understand. Can you elaborate as to why?

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

when the new DC opens, there will be brand new servers, and world transfers to new servers are free

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I want selective lag, not 24/7 lag. Play with them in mornings then go back to my DC for evenings.

Tonberry has always been the hybrid English/Japanese server for Oceanic players, if anything most of the strats use the same JP macros and the like, just in English. So I can't imagine much changing even if they migrate to the Oceanic data center.

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Originally Posted by marelooke

I do. I was around to see the change in "that other game". If I hadn't been I wouldn't see any negatives either.

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Nobody cares. Leave other games in other games. I'm really tired of people like you bringing your obsessions with that other game into ffxiv.

Here on Cactuar I'm actually terrified of the incoming data center visits. We have two big streamers here and we already get everyone on Aether coming here to see them.

This is fantastic, I have friends in USA who play on Balmung, now I can visit them and play with them.

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Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin

This is pretty much going to happen, if you are visiting another DC, you'll be on their PF/DF.

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I wasn't talking about visiting but if say, NA and JP's entire PF were merged together in one massive cross CW system. I can't imagine that'll be how it operates but if it somehow did happen, that's where things would get... interesting.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

As a North American who lived on Tonberry I can't say I understand. Can you elaborate as to why?

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This is assuming PF were merged altogether not if you simply visited say, Mana and only had access to Mana's PF. For example sake, say I queue into DF normally on Aether. I could get players from every Data Center. I doubt they go that route and it's simply limited to the Data Center you happen to be on though. In any case, if that actually happened. It'd cause problems simply due to the fundamentally different attitudes.