Updated map of The Three Great Continents

found this over on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...for_endwalker/ apparently we got some updates to the "world map" before Endwalker.

https://i.redd.it/mtojosqtbsa71.png

Notable differences is, well, the clouds over Ilsabard parted, but ONLY around Garlemald, so that's funny. Also the Ivalician map got added, with Dalmasca and Valnain looking almost exactly like they did in Fran's map. However, Bozja and Terncliff are conspicuously absent.

Also, the "icons" used for Doma, Old Sharlayan, and Radz-at-Han used to be the same and now they have their own unique styles, reflecting the actual look of the cities (also, the Dawn Throne got added to the Azim Steppe section). The colors for Old Sharlayan and Thavnair are also more vibrant.

We never did make it to that northwestern chunk of Othard, did we?


(EE2 calls it "the Dalvalan Grath," and it seems to be the home of a Viking-esque offshoot of the Xaela. They even have a Khan!)

Why are they still hiding the location of Bozja? We've been there for a while already.

What I also wonder is, if this map is updated to the Garlemald palace's transformation, ¿why isn't it also updated for other things like the new place of Val/Eureka in the Far East, or changing the "Sharlayan" name from what is now "Idyllshire"? And if Lea Monde is a capital from South Dalmasca, ¿why is not in the map?

And yeah, Bozja and Werlyt regions as well.

Valnain having a custom icon is throwing me for a loop here. What to expect...

Also can you imagine sending that Garlemald icon back in time to a debate about the Empire from 2017? lol
Lookin' like a death metal band logo.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

also, the Dawn Throne got added to the Azim Steppe section

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Weird, I'd assumed it was on the river marked on the map. Maybe someone not double-checking the location of it in-game when they placed it.

Glad to finally have Dalmasca in full color instead of needing to rely on the black and white image Fran showed in the Ivalice quests. I do wish they uncovered Werlyt and Bozja too though, since we know where they are. Not adding Eureka/Val is also odd, but since these are in-universe maps maybe it having changed locations isn't widely known.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Valnain having a custom icon is throwing me for a loop here. What to expect...

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I didn't even notice that. Don't get my hopes up.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Valnain having a custom icon is throwing me for a loop here. What to expect...

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The optimist in me is thinking it's probably for the "Part Three" of the Ivalice Storyline.

The pessimist in me is thinking they HAD that third part planned and even assets sketched and then... yeah...

The whole area is oddly detailed for somewhere we never really go to...

It's still hilarious to me that the map having the clouds covering stuff implies that map makers are more willing to go out in the ocean than over land >_>

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

It's still hilarious to me that the map having the clouds covering stuff implies that map makers are more willing to go out in the ocean than over land >_>

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Especially since the parts the clouds cover presumably have actual people living on it, going about their lives as per normal, and thus it's not completely terra incognita.

It gets even more hilarious when the Endwalker trailer uses that map in the Sharlayan scene with Y'shtola and Fourchenalt, which means even Sharlayan maps have that cloud cover.

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Originally Posted by YianKutku

Especially since the parts the clouds cover presumably have actual people living on it, going about their lives as per normal, and thus it's not completely terra incognita.

It gets even more hilarious when the Endwalker trailer uses that map in the Sharlayan scene with Y'shtola and Fourchenalt, which means even Sharlayan maps have that cloud cover.

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Lmao yeah. Man, what if it's just everyone worldwide hates everyone who lives under the clouded areas? lol.

http://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/im...63Zjg&usqp=CAU

I just wish they'd clear all the clouds out and let us see the world unhidden on the map, I'd even extend the map to where we could see mericydia and the new world.

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Originally Posted by VictorTheed

I just wish they'd clear all the clouds out and let us see the world unhidden on the map, I'd even extend the map to where we could see mericydia and the new world.

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The simple out-of-story issue is that they aren't using those locations yet and don't want to reveal or map them until they're ready to do so, because it locks them into geography that they came up with "just to put it on the map" several years ago.

What I wonder more is the size of the full world.

When we compare it with our world we have only seen Europe and Asia.
Are there any continents around the equator?
Can we go further east or west to find another continent?
What is south of the equator?
We have at least half the world still to explore and once we don't have a war to care about we can start exploring.

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Originally Posted by Curisu

What I wonder more is the size of the full world.

When we compare it with our world we have only seen Europe and Asia.
Are there any continents around the equator?
Can we go further east or west to find another continent?
What is south of the equator?
We have at least half the world still to explore and once we don't have a war to care about we can start exploring.

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We do know, yes. The southern continent is Meracydia, which is mentioned/core to a lot of lore, especially regarding the Allagans (due to them invading and conquering). To the west of Aldenard is the New World, which is basically what the Americas would be on Earth. The Mamool Ja come from there (and Blue Magic, although that only gets named as such by the Eorzean trying to introduce it here), and there's a decent amount of trade in recent years thanks to Merlwyb finding a safe route.

I think someone has previously posted a wider map based on an "Earth from the Moon" shot that showed not only Meracydia (roughly Africa) but the edge of a would-be Australia as well?

I thought Eorzea was Africa and Meracydia was Australia. Ilsabard is Europe (which means yes, Garlemald is there), while Old Sharlayan is the British Isles.

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Originally Posted by Curisu

What I wonder more is the size of the full world.

When we compare it with our world we have only seen Europe and Asia.
Are there any continents around the equator?
Can we go further east or west to find another continent?
What is south of the equator?
We have at least half the world still to explore and once we don't have a war to care about we can start exploring.

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Imagine when/if we finally get to go to Meracydia and they pull a Hunter x Hunter and reveal the 10+ years old exploring we did is like 1% of the full world size and Eorzea is this teeny tiny land in comparison.

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I thought Eorzea was Africa and Meracydia was Australia. Ilsabard is Europe (which means yes, Garlemald is there), while Old Sharlayan is the British Isles.

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Common misconception, it seems. But I've had to dispel that before because of the Equator line. Basically, both culture and climate-wise, Eorzea is above said line, with only Ul'dah, perhaps, being Northern African-equivalent: Its architecture being closer to Morocco than Southern African tribes and architecture (And Morocco is on the other side of Spain, connected by the "Columns of Hercules"). Because of Alexander the Great, most of Northern Africa is more Greek (although also Islamic) than what we'd commonly think as African (Cleopatra, for example, is of the Ptolemaic Dynasty, so she's actually GREEK and not Egyptian). (Also, Those countries I mention are also ABOVE the Equator line, with Africa being half above and half below it. Basically, for it to correspond to Fantasy-Africa: Gridania should have Ul'dah's climate and Ul'dah itself should be more lush like Southern Africa)

Meracydia is closer to Hydaelin Africa or Hydaelin Australia. If Iscah is correct, then Meracydia would be our Africa-equivalent and there's another Fantasy-Australia off somewhere. It's of note that, while the Garlean Empire is very based on Rome, the initial Eorzean Campaign was based on the invasion of the Greek City States by Persia.

Just a silly thought from my mind. When 5.0 was new, before the Eden storyline, I was hoping that in a future story we would try to finish the "Rejoining" of the worlds, but in a different way from the Ascians. A way that wouldn't result in the destruction of the reflect and the Calamity of the Source, but just transportation of the remaining place.

Norvrandt for example. We would "rejoin" the First to the Source, but actually transporting the remaining place (Norvrandt) to somewhere in the Source as a new continent, so Norvrandt would be included in the map as a "fourth great continent" (and doing the same with the remaining shards, and so those places won't be so isolated as the last ones in their world).

I don't know why I say this, perhaps because of the map thing and my thought of Norvrandt to be included in a Hydaelyn's new global map. But this was before I played Eden's story.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

I thought Eorzea was Africa and Meracydia was Australia. Ilsabard is Europe (which means yes, Garlemald is there), while Old Sharlayan is the British Isles.

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People keep repeating this and there's really no resemblance to it besides the very loose shape of the continent and the fact that there's something between it and "Asia".

Turn your map of Europe sideways, maybe gather in some of northern Africa, and you've got a much better analogue. Norse-themed dragons in the northwest, large island nation off the west coast, peninsulas and islands off the east coast, Turkish-inspired Gyr Abania in the northeast. (This also explains why Eorzea's climate seems out of whack if you put too much thought into it, with Gyr Abania being well north of its apparent influence and seeming like it should be on the latitude of Ul'dah rather than Coerthas.

Meanwhile, though the Eorzean map seems loose in its real-world equivalent (whatever it is) Othard is more tightly overlaid to Asia, down to the mountain ranges – except Russia is missing.

If you assume the Bay of Yanxia is the Yellow Sea and cut a line from South Korea to Mongolia, the northern borders of Mongolia and Kazakhstan seem to follow the same shape as Othard's northern coast. It gets vague after that – the northern inlet seems to be the Caspian Sea but also covering some real-world dry land.

But the key thing is, Russia isn't there, and it's not attached to Eorzea either, so I'm expecting that it's been pushed off sideways to become Ilsabard, along with the remaining parts of the Middle East.

Also the few real-world things we know to be from Meracydia (aloe and sesame) are from Africa.

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Originally Posted by Con_Carne

Just a silly thought from my mind. When 5.0 was new, before the Eden storyline, I was hoping that in a future story we would try to finish the "Rejoining" of the worlds, but in a different way from the Ascians. A way that wouldn't result in the destruction of the reflect and the Calamity of the Source, but just transportation of the remaining place.

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Realistically, dropping an entire new continent into the world would probably be disruptive enough to be a calamity in itself.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

People keep repeating this and there's really no resemblance to it besides the very loose shape of the continent and the fact that there's something between it and "Asia".

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Well, there's the whole "age of exploration" thing, too. Like, Eorzea is simultaneously an area that has been settled for 1000+ years where everyone speaks Common, but also this great land of adventure that people flock to from other parts of the world, not unlike Africa in the 19th century. Nobody really goes on expeditions to France or Turkey. That's just going on holiday.

Honestly, I think the cultural references are really the only real world references. The geography and climates for FFXIV don't really line up with the real world.

And they routinely tell us on gathered items where they originate from, but then the places we find them in game don't really make sense with the climates they're supposed to grow in, usually.

To me, Eorzea as a whole just looks like a jank version of the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal). Vylbrand is the Canary Islands but lumped into one. Africa and the rest of Europe really don't exist. Old Sharlayan is Britain by location but completely deleted culture wise.

Meracydia is supposed to be a wasteland now, and that doesn't fit in with Africa at all. I guess maybe the Sahara? But where's the rest of it, lol.

Ik the topic has kinda died but Bukyo has been on my mind lately, it's a closed off region to foreigners (Ijin I think we're called) And all of the Nagxian region has me intrigued, the one thing that wish was a thing is to see Bukyo since it also has a unique city icon but we know next to nothing about it right now