Asmongold's First Impression with Final Fantasy 14

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07-09-2021, 02:53 PM
lezard21

Asmongold's First Impression with Final Fantasy 14

World famous WoW streamer Asmongold now turned FF14 streamer just posted a 20 minute video analysis on his first impressions on the game and he raises a few interesting points.

https://youtu.be/nQMI0caiJvo
07-09-2021, 02:53 PM
MPK

:) Can't wait to watch him do raids!
07-09-2021, 03:20 PM
Kes13a

I agree completely with the first set up using Steam. but I dont know if thats on the Steam end or SE, either way, it was a bit of a journey to set up the first time.
07-09-2021, 03:42 PM
Fyrebrand

I have to admit, based on some of his reaction videos before he started playing FFXIV, I was not looking forward to him joining and I honestly thought there was no point and that he would hate everything he saw and just bitch and complain about it all. I thought he would skip every cutscene, not read anything, and soon quit after calling this a "weeb game" (well, maybe not that specific term, but heavily hinting that the game was for weirdos or something).

It's actually been really fun watching him play, and I am very pleasantly surprised to see him enjoy it so much. I'm still not really loving his "stream persona," and it's cringey how he feels he needs to proclaim "big dick damage" on bosses and act disgusted anytime a lala appears on-screen. But, I get there is more to him than that underneath the hood. He was actually quite well-spoken in this video. I really appreciated it!

And yeah, the Square Enix website is an absolute dumpster fire. Any time I want to re-subscribe or un-subscribe, I feel like I need to look up a Mizzteq guide video. I actually have a friend I was trying to convince to come back and play for a bit, now that the free trial goes all the way to 60 and includes Heavensward. I think he was sincerely interested in jumping back into the game, but because he already technically owns a retail version of the game he bought years ago, he is ineligible to join as a free trial player. I was supremely disappointed to hear this, and yet I am not surprised as it seems like an iconic "Square Enix" policy in action.
07-09-2021, 03:42 PM
Vahlnir

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

I agree completely with the first set up using Steam. but I dont know if thats on the Steam end or SE, either way, it was a bit of a journey to set up the first time.

Yeah...SE needs to get with the times on this one. Even the Mogstation and FF XIV Online Store could use a LOT of streamlining. I get that they wanted to have some added security, but I shouldn't have to log in 2-3 times just to purchase some dyes. Or an outfit. Or...anything.

Side note, he looks and sounds like a brand new guy. Apparently FF XIV can restore hairlines. :p But honestly, he seems to be understanding why players enjoy this game, and that is great to see. I really didn't expect him to enjoy it as much as he currently does. It's probably a breath of fresh air after dealing with WoW lately.
07-09-2021, 03:48 PM
GrizzlyTank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah...SE needs to get with the times on this one. Even the Mogstation and FF XIV Online Store could use a LOT of streamlining. I get that they wanted to have some added security, but I shouldn't have to log in 2-3 times just to purchase some dyes. Or an outfit. Or...anything.

There should also not be different buttons to where to add keys, and different keys for pre-patch/launch.

But hey... square took years to fix their retainer page so that it didn't state that you got 2 additional retainers for free implying 4 free retainers in total.
07-09-2021, 04:02 PM
Drakonic

Very good vid.
07-09-2021, 04:14 PM
Tarryme

Very entertaining. I like the way he injects humour keeping a straight face while I'm LOL.
He is actually teaching me things that I skipped or flipped through. I guess it's better having someone reading the many pages of text for you then ploughing through them yourself.
07-09-2021, 04:19 PM
Artemiz

That is a good video and I thought he made well thought out points. He is absolutely bang on the money about how hard it is to even get into the game. I'm trying to get my brother into the game and trying to explain to someone who has never dealt with the mog station how to navigate it is a royal pain in the ass, even over voice chat. I nearly had to drive over to his house to do it for him as we were wasting so much of our gaming time messing about with it.

He does really seem to have enjoyed dipping his toe into our world and I think it's great to see, his steam persona isn't for everyone but it never will be I guess and I sincerely tip my hat to SE for how they dealt with his harassment, it's nowhere near as bad as it was on day one. He seems to have realy tried to give the game a good go, reading all the quests text, watching the cutscenes etc... and despite what many thought didn't come in with a hater attitude.

I am not really a stream watcher to be honest and I did think it was going to be an absolute mess him streaming the ARR quests but he has made it entertaining so fair play to him, I'm looking forward to more of his streams and that's something I thought I would never say as someone who doesn't usually watch streams.
07-09-2021, 04:25 PM
Sotaris

I'm so glad he likes it both as a fan of his streams and this game.
Also happy he brought up the pain of steam and mogstation, for a new player I can understand it being a pain in the butt while for us seasoned with the system don't think to much of it but it could use some rework for sure.

I mean at least it isn't Playonline from the mid 2000s that some of us oldies remembers.
07-09-2021, 04:52 PM
kaynide

I didn’t know the guy before all of this, but his let’s-plays have been on point. He sincerely has been playing the game like any random dude could; he’s had his jabs in good fun, but mostly he’s been very respectful of the actual content- reading it all, not skipping anything and trying his best to do the content as correctly as he understands he should. Nothing trolling about him thus far.

From reading comments here I was certainly expecting bad, but I’d be happy to play with this guy anytime.
07-09-2021, 06:03 PM
Payadopa

[QUOTE=Sotaris;5601637

I mean at least it isn't Playonline from the mid 2000s that some of us oldies remembers.[/QUOTE]
PlayOnline still gives me nightmares...
It took me a few hours just to set up accounts to be able to log into XI...

I guess the Mog Station is an improvement over that? *cough*
07-09-2021, 06:23 PM
Lanadra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

I have to admit, based on some of his reaction videos before he started playing FFXIV, I was not looking forward to him joining and I honestly thought there was no point and that he would hate everything he saw and just bitch and complain about it all. I thought he would skip every cutscene, not read anything, and soon quit after calling this a "weeb game" (well, maybe not that specific term, but heavily hinting that the game was for weirdos or something).

It's actually been really fun watching him play, and I am very pleasantly surprised to see him enjoy it so much. I'm still not really loving his "stream persona," and it's cringey how he feels he needs to proclaim "big dick damage" on bosses and act disgusted anytime a lala appears on-screen. But, I get there is more to him than that underneath the hood. He was actually quite well-spoken in this video. I really appreciated it!

And yeah, the Square Enix website is an absolute dumpster fire. Any time I want to re-subscribe or un-subscribe, I feel like I need to look up a Mizzteq guide video. I actually have a friend I was trying to convince to come back and play for a bit, now that the free trial goes all the way to 60 and includes Heavensward. I think he was sincerely interested in jumping back into the game, but because he already technically owns a retail version of the game he bought years ago, he is ineligible to join as a free trial player. I was supremely disappointed to hear this, and yet I am not surprised as it seems like an iconic "Square Enix" policy in action.

Congratulations, you managed to set aside your preconceived notions about Asmongold (trust me, I had them also) and see a side of him that is quite different from the Stream Persona. I was surprised myself by how different he was in his ZackRawrr videos, but I quickly understood that is because that's.. you know, Zack, the actual person talking rather than Asmongold.

It makes you realize most of what he's doing on stream while playing FFXIV is probably on purpose, acting disgusted by Lala's, mispronouncing everything, not unlocking anything that most players would, not using porters, not configuring his UI, etc.
07-09-2021, 06:23 PM
van_arn

I'm always happy to see new players, and I'm especially happy to see a new player that previously couldn't get over the uwu owo we have in this game. Genuinely hope he continues to enjoy it, and I'm especially looking forward to his reaction to seeing Good King Moogle Mog for the first time.
07-09-2021, 06:28 PM
Caitlyn

Quote:

Originally Posted by van_arn

I'm especially looking forward to his reaction to seeing Good King Moogle Mog for the first time.

Ultimate Coil. Since he wants to do Ultimates.
And the Shadowbringers 5.0 MSQ.
07-09-2021, 06:28 PM
Nyarlha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanadra

Congratulations, you managed to set aside your preconceived notions about Asmongold (trust me, I had them also) and see a side of him that is quite different from the Stream Persona. I was surprised myself by how different he was in his ZackRawrr videos, but I quickly understood that is because that's.. you know, Zack, the actual person talking rather than Asmongold.

It makes you realize most of what he's doing on stream while playing FFXIV is probably on purpose, acting disgusted by Lala's, mispronouncing everything, not unlocking anything that most players would, not using porters, not configuring his UI, etc.

If you want some insight on what it means to stream MMO compared to playing them for yourself, watch this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2psXI0mJsuA
07-09-2021, 06:31 PM
Lanadra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyarlha

If you want some insight on what it means to stream MMO compared to playing them for yourself, watch this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2psXI0mJsuA

I did actually watch that a few days ago, but thanks for the recommendation. It was interesting to watch because yeah, it makes you realize that a lot of what goes on in a stream, especially bigger ones, is done exactly because the streamer is trying to do their job.. entertaining the audience. It's why some of us kind of hoped Asmongold would play FFXIV off stream, so he could experience it as, well.. any non streamer would.
07-09-2021, 06:39 PM
Nyarlha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanadra

I did actually watch that a few days ago, but thanks for the recommendation. It was interesting to watch because yeah, it makes you realize that a lot of what goes on in a stream, especially bigger ones, is done exactly because the streamer is trying to do their job.. entertaining the audience. It's why some of us kind of hoped Asmongold would play FFXIV off stream, so he could experience it as, well.. any non streamer would.

Yeah, I think more people need to realize that. It's not as simple as "he's playing the game wrong" (not that Asmon is) or "waah he's making fun of X he doesn't like it".
07-09-2021, 06:57 PM
Sotaris

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyarlha

Yeah, I think more people need to realize that. It's not as simple as "he's playing the game wrong" (not that Asmon is) or "waah he's making fun of X he doesn't like it".

Pretty ironic ain't

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

PlayOnline still gives me nightmares...
It took me a few hours just to set up accounts to be able to log into XI...

I guess the Mog Station is an improvement over that? *cough*

I feel you, being on slow internet or dial up back then wasn't making it better either.
07-09-2021, 07:04 PM
Artemiz

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Pretty ironic ain't

I feel you, being on slow internet or dial up back then wasn't making it better either.

It probably didn't help that after clearing Playonline ultimate you then had a 14 hour download to do. Every file One. At. A. Time.
07-09-2021, 07:54 PM
Rae88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artemiz

It probably didn't help that after clearing Playonline ultimate you then had a 14 hour download to do. Every file One. At. A. Time.

Oh my God O.O
07-09-2021, 07:58 PM
IckeDerTyp

Am glad you guys enjoy him, may he stick around forever. Or something!

Frankly, I couldn't care less.

Funny tho how in the beginning Asmon and his wow community have been feared by basically everyone.

This really is a weird game, or is the place just weird? The times?

Something.
07-09-2021, 08:01 PM
Krotoan

A lot of people think Asmongold is Zack and vice versa. I'm very happy people are giving him a chance here to explain, as who he really is how his experience with the game has been.

It's also nice to hear someone noticing that it's not just the strict policing that's going on (which he actually appreciated it seems) but the way the game itself is designed not to create toxicity or foster frustration in it's players.

"Oh well, we wiped, res up and try again" VS "welp.. that's a wipe, see you #@($*$'s next week then".
07-09-2021, 08:14 PM
Lauren

It's a shame a ton of bad apples have tried to ruin his experience in game and tried to colour the community reaction out of game. I'm glad he's having a great time.

In addition, he really is right about buying the game. A few friends are hopping over and they all just bought endwalker and are confused that they don't have the game. I tried to explain it to them but they all agree (myself included) the process is silly.

Just have it so you get charged straight away for endwalker and it's applied to your account. none of this messing around!
07-09-2021, 08:30 PM
SniperCT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lauren

It's a shame a ton of bad apples have tried to ruin his experience in game and tried to colour the community reaction out of game. I'm glad he's having a great time.

In addition, he really is right about buying the game. A few friends are hopping over and they all just bought endwalker and are confused that they don't have the game. I tried to explain it to them but they all agree (myself included) the process is silly.

Just have it so you get charged straight away for endwalker and it's applied to your account. none of this messing around!

TBF buying EW now is not much different from buying SL before it came out. That said, having to wait for a key is silly at this point.

What's really confusing is the starter vs complete vs Shadowbringers stuff.

What they should do is have two options:

Final Fantasy XIV (includes ARR>Stormblood)
Shadowbringers (is Shadowbringers)

Then when Endwalker is released, ShB rolls into the base game. So it's basically the reverse of what we have now, and I think would be a lot less confusing.
07-09-2021, 10:05 PM
ReynTime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caitlyn

Ultimate Coil. Since he wants to do Ultimates.
And the Shadowbringers 5.0 MSQ.

90% sure he won't like ShB as much as people expect. And then they will jump at him for it.
07-09-2021, 10:08 PM
Larirawiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynTime

90% sure he won't like ShB as much as people expect. And then they will jump at him for it.

The people were also sure he wouldn't like ARR because there are too many fetch quests. :)

Cheers
07-09-2021, 10:11 PM
Jin-

I like how he hungers after Miqo'tes and sometimes "forgets" the weeb thing :)
07-09-2021, 10:12 PM
Jkap_Goat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artemiz

It probably didn't help that after clearing Playonline ultimate you then had a 14 hour download to do. Every file One. At. A. Time.

Its much much much better now, it takes like...maybe an hour and a half to download all the updates now
07-09-2021, 10:18 PM
Infindox

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynTime

90% sure he won't like ShB as much as people expect. And then they will jump at him for it.

Not really. ShB is fine story-wise but can be lacking in stuff patch-wise, and I get it if someone didn't like it as much. General opinion is also usually "best story, but wish it had more".
07-09-2021, 10:23 PM
Liam_Harper

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynTime

90% sure he won't like ShB as much as people expect. And then they will jump at him for it.

I'd say he'll like and enjoy ShB, but have plenty to criticize. And tbh, that's perfectly fine.
07-09-2021, 10:35 PM
Goji1639

It seems like the man has the patience to allow an intentionally slow, somewhat padded MMORPG story to unwind, which is important for this game. The story is great, but it takes a really specific mindset to be able to get the most out of it. If he's having fun now then he'll continue to enjoy himself all the way through.

I do think the endgame is where FFXIV will lose him, though. No PvP; No small group or solo content to tackle; He'll basically need to organize an 8 or 24 man raid anytime he wants some engaging content for his stream, and even that won't last very long.
07-09-2021, 10:50 PM
Conundrum

Quote:

Originally Posted by van_arn

I'm especially looking forward to his reaction to seeing Good King Moogle Mog for the first time.

May his pom ever guide us.
07-10-2021, 12:12 AM
bass9020

Mispronouncing almost everything(obviously for his chat) aside, I see nothing wrong with this first impressions what so ever. Its nice to see. I look forward to more impression videos when the honeymoon phase starts to fade. I also think its amazing that he knows the little ins and outs of the story and the vast majority thought he would skip it, I give him props for that.
07-10-2021, 12:25 AM
Lanadra

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynTime

90% sure he won't like ShB as much as people expect. And then they will jump at him for it.

He's loving ARR and you think he won't like ShB?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...2872/jonah.gif
07-10-2021, 12:29 AM
Sotaris

Quote:

Originally Posted by bass9020

Mispronouncing almost everything(obviously for his chat) aside, I see nothing wrong with this first impressions what so ever. Its nice to see. I look forward to more impression videos when the honeymoon phase starts to fade. I also think its amazing that he knows the little ins and outs of the story and the vast majority thought he would skip it, I give him props for that.

It's an act if that wasn't obvious already. He's a entertainer and is here to entertain. People loves it and the memes are flowing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artemiz

It probably didn't help that after clearing Playonline ultimate you then had a 14 hour download to do. Every file One. At. A. Time.

Indeed! Their Peer-to-peer download wasn't very effective and from what I hear it still this way today but obviously don't take a day and a half anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp

Am glad you guys enjoy him, may he stick around forever. Or something!

Frankly, I couldn't care less.

Funny tho how in the beginning Asmon and his wow community have been feared by basically everyone.

This really is a weird game, or is the place just weird? The times?

Something.

Yeah it's funny what misconception does to some folks here in our dear community. The guy isn't bad who figured.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperCT

TBF buying EW now is not much different from buying SL before it came out. That said, having to wait for a key is silly at this point.

What's really confusing is the starter vs complete vs Shadowbringers stuff.

What they should do is have two options:

Final Fantasy XIV (includes ARR>Stormblood)
Shadowbringers (is Shadowbringers)

Then when Endwalker is released, ShB rolls into the base game. So it's basically the reverse of what we have now, and I think would be a lot less confusing.

So basically what WoW does?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanadra

He's loving ARR and you think he won't like ShB?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...2872/jonah.gif

Hah yeah, I mean if he can get through ARR, nothing will stop him.
07-10-2021, 12:41 AM
ZedxKayn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanadra

He's loving ARR and you think he won't like ShB?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...2872/jonah.gif

Reyn said "as much as people expect".
07-10-2021, 12:53 AM
bass9020

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sotaris

It's an act if that wasn't obvious already. He's a entertainer and is here to entertain. People loves it and the memes are flowing.

Yes I know and I dont have to like that and think everything NEEDS to be a meme.
07-10-2021, 12:57 AM
Lanadra

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Reyn said "as much as people expect".

He has already exceeded expectations. The expectation was that he wouldn't last an hour, skip everything and probably boost. He's done none of these things.
07-10-2021, 01:20 AM
ElciaDeiLinus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goji1639

It seems like the man has the patience to allow an intentionally slow, somewhat padded MMORPG story to unwind, which is important for this game. The story is great, but it takes a really specific mindset to be able to get the most out of it. If he's having fun now then he'll continue to enjoy himself all the way through.

I do think the endgame is where FFXIV will lose him, though. No PvP; No small group or solo content to tackle; He'll basically need to organize an 8 or 24 man raid anytime he wants some engaging content for his stream, and even that won't last very long.

There's plenty of things he can do that will mirror what he does in WoW- tmog competitions, mount offs both can happen here, he can probably get the same amount of 'chat ban appeal' vids out, he will have plenty of savage/ultimate raiding to do, he'll have a considerable amount of mount farming to do.

He'll likely do at least a full clear of the deep dungeons, I wouldn't be surprised if he does the side content like Eureka/Bozja since that's great for a group. I can't see him getting through everything any time soon.

What I can see being more likely to lose him is the game being far too balanced- streamers in general like WoW because with the right gear/spec/items/etc... they can utterly dominate in dps meters or in pvp over players that lack that. Look at how many wow high light vids are pvp vids where someone two shots another player, or is getting wailed on by four guys and taking no damage then turns around with their fully enchanted, fully buffed bis gear and kills all of them in two globals.

That's what's exciting content in WoW- in FFXIV, that's just not going to happen.

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