Feedback: Delete old content that no one does anymore to make room for new content

Here is my feedback to Square Enix: There is less new content each patch in Shadowbringers compared to Stormblood. We got only one dungeon per patch, two Bozja zones and no deep dungeon or new limited job. However, there is a lot of older content that no one does anymore, like guildhests or combat levequests. By removing these old content that no one does, no one will be impacted but it gives the devs more time since they don't need to test guildhests or levequests after every patch for QA. They also have more memory to work with by deleting old content so they can fit in new content. My suggestion for Square Enix is to delete content that less than 0.1% of players do so they can create more new content and have more dev time. Peace.

Ok, I'm all for them deleting the forums.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Ok, I'm all for them deleting the forums.

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Most players are using the forums though. They may not be posting but they are learning different aspects of the game by reading the forum's threads, like crafting guides.

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Originally Posted by Venandi

However, there is a lot of older content that no one does anymore, like guildhests or combat levequests.
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My suggestion for Square Enix is to delete content that less than 0.1% of players do so they can create more new content and have more dev time. Peace.

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How does deleting guildhests (for example) give the devs more development time?

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Originally Posted by ItMe

How does deleting guildhests (for example) give the devs more development time?

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Deleting GuildHests somehow makes November winter. This causes a time vortex giving them more time.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

How does deleting guildhests (for example) give the devs more development time?

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They don't have to do QA on it and by deleting it, it gives them more memory to make new content.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Deleting GuildHests somehow makes November winter. This causes a time vortex giving them more time.

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Har har very funny. It won't be so funny when it starts snowing and you're going around on the streets yelling that it's still fall when the leaves already fell off completely.

maybe if they were to replace guildhests with proper job tutorials

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Originally Posted by Venandi

They don't have to do QA on it and by deleting it, it gives them more memory to make new content.

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I'm fairly certain they've long since stopped QAing guildhests (or most obsolete old content)... or interacting with them at all. Bringing any dev attention back to them would probably result in a net loss in time to make new things if they need to QA it's removal.

Also, that's not how memory works.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I'm fairly certain they've long since stopped QAing guildhests (or most obsolete old content)... or interacting with them at all. Bringing any dev attention back to them would probably result in a net loss in time to make new things if they need to QA it's removal.

Also, that's not how memory works.

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I wouldn't bother with them. This is the same person that thinks it's winter in November just because it's snowing.. somewhere...

Oh hey, why isn't Endwalker out?! It's already Winter in Antarctica! They said fall >:[

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

I wouldn't bother with them. This is the same person that thinks it's winter in November just because it's snowing.. somewhere...

Oh hey, why isn't Endwalker out?! It's already Winter in Antarctica! They said fall >:[

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I'm convinced that they are trolling at this point. There's no other way I could possibly see it other than another TitanMen persona. He has been making his rounds again lately, and the OP has conveniently been responding to their own threads and making new ones with absolutely terrible takes. Not hard to put 2 and 2 together.

how does deleting something that is already done give them more time

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm convinced that they are trolling at this point. There's no other way I could possibly see it other than another TitanMen persona. He has been making his rounds again lately, and the OP has conveniently been responding to their own threads and making new ones with absolutely terrible takes. Not hard to put 2 and 2 together.

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Don't know why I didn't put 2 and 2 together myself.

Like, I know they're trolling, but I just didn't think it was another TitanMen alt lol.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Don't know why I didn't put 2 and 2 together myself.

Like, I know they're trolling, but I just didn't think it was another TitanMen alt lol.

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I didn't think so either to start until he started making it way more obvious. I think what confuses me the most is how much money he's putting into this. Like...why? At least put that money to better use and buy good takeout/delivery food or something!

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I didn't think so either to start until he started making it way more obvious. I think what confuses me the most is how much money he's putting into this. Like...why?

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Immaturity, a lack of anything better to do, no reason to otherwise better spend his money? Off the top of my head.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Immaturity, a lack of anything better to do, no reason to otherwise better spend his money? Off the top of my head.

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Yeah, probably all of that on top of at least a dozen other things.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah, probably all of that on top of at least a dozen other things.

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With the amount he's spending I could've bought a new PC... I've been needing an upgrade, I'm running a 1050ti and she's in pain. Such a waste, for what probably amounts to little more than a temporary increase in dopamine.

I mean, let's assume they still do QA for guildhest and the such when introducing new classes...how much time and manpower can it potentially take them to balance a new class to the level 10 guildhest where every class has access to 3-4 powers, the enemies die in 10 seconds, and there are no mechanics??

If there's any QA that takes time for balancing new classes is Savage and Ultimate. So by this insane troll logic, let's remove all Savage and Ultimate.

levequests are tied to a lot of achievements, though. i know several people working on them. they're also tied to ARR relics, which people still do to this day, so saying "old content not being used anymore" is subjective, i think.

And those levequests are handy for someone newer to the game deciding to level other classes besides the one they picked to start with as well.

are they can just spend another 10k upgrading there server, and with player base x 14 month x mog station x ppl needing retainers they can do that at anytime rather easily lol, if you go look up server cost, a "decent one" is like 3k which can be used to run/create private servers and stuff alike... so honestly They don't need to delete anything they just have to keep upgrading their servers when we reach x amount of stuff...

Sorry but that's just a excuse greedy company's like blizzard use lol

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Originally Posted by StormyFae

are they can just spend another 10k upgrading there server, and with player base x 14 month x mog station x ppl needing retainers they can do that at anytime rather easily lol, if you go look up server cost, a "decent one" is like 3k which can be used to run/create private servers and stuff alike... so honestly They don't need to delete anything they just have to keep upgrading their servers when we reach x amount of stuff...

Sorry but that's just a excuse greedy company's like blizzard use lol

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You... You realize that "server" in this instance isn't one piece of hardware right? They have multiple racks stacked with servers for each datacenter. You have never actually dealt with true server situations have you?

I deal with servers on a daily basis. Its my job. Our orders for a single 44 server zone are upwards of a million or 2 dollars. Its not "cheap" and certainly not "lol$3000"

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You... You realize that "server" in this instance isn't one piece of hardware right? They have multiple racks stacked with servers for each datacenter. You have never actually dealt with true server situations have you?

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Everyone knows you can host a server for a game of the size and population of the critically acclaimed FFXIV with a free trial up to level 60 including the award winning Heavensward expansion with a laptop in your basement

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I didn't think so either to start until he started making it way more obvious. I think what confuses me the most is how much money he's putting into this. Like...why? At least put that money to better use and buy good takeout/delivery food or something!

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Given the "character profiles" people have posted showing they have all their crafter/gatherers levelled, I'd say it's someone running bots and burning through all the accounts' forum privileges.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You... You realize that "server" in this instance isn't one piece of hardware right? They have multiple racks stacked with servers for each datacenter. You have never actually dealt with true server situations have you?

I deal with servers on a daily basis. Its my job. Our orders for a single 44 server zone are upwards of a million or 2 dollars. Its not "cheap" and certainly not "lol$3000"

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what part of big company did you miss lol they easily caping they atleast double

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Originally Posted by Venandi

They don't have to do QA on it and by deleting it, it gives them more memory to make new content.

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They don't do QA on it. Nor do they on any other old content unless a glaring bug occurs.

Because there are are no efforts taken in maintaining old content, any development time used even to delete it would be more than is currently used in leaving it as is.

Moreover, memory does not work that way.

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Originally Posted by Venandi

There is a lot of older content that no one does anymore, like guildhests or combat levequests.

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That's simply not true. Both are done frequently by new players or players leveling new jobs.

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Originally Posted by Venandi

Har har very funny. It won't be so funny when it starts snowing and you're going around on the streets yelling that it's still fall when the leaves already fell off completely.

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Winter is based on a solstice, not on the leaves or snowfall. It can also snow in fall or in spring without shifting the seasons..

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Given the "character profiles" people have posted showing they have all their crafter/gatherers levelled, I'd say it's someone running bots and burning through all the accounts' forum privileges.

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Yeah I wasn't tipped off to this one enough to check their profile because they weren't a white mage LVL 80 buut...

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Originally Posted by Venandi

Here is my feedback to Square Enix: There is less new content each patch in Shadowbringers compared to Stormblood. We got only one dungeon per patch, two Bozja zones and no deep dungeon or new limited job.

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Castrum Cactus Litore is a 5.35 raid dungeon
Dalriada is a 5.5 raid dungeon

Peace.

Their QA team consists of hundreds of people, so testing guildhests should be quick and easy relative to everything else.

People still do guildhests because meeting sprouts in them is extremely common. A lot of the time it is the very first multiplayer dungeon of any form that a sprout does.

Doing levequests is actually something you may find new players doing, even if nobody would recommend it. They are used as relic weapon steps and to spawn hunts so these would have to be adjusted.

Oh look, another troll bait thread. The saddest thing is that nowadays the whole forums activity is being driven by 2-3 trolls, instead of real threads.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Yeah I wasn't tipped off to this one enough to check their profile because they weren't a white mage LVL 80 buut...

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Wait how is that possible? Lv2 GLD, lv80 AST, nothing else besides crafters? How'd they get to Heavenward to unlock AST?

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Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell

Wait how is that possible? Lv2 GLD, lv80 AST, nothing else besides crafters? How'd they get to Heavenward to unlock AST?

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They did just enough quests to get the freedom to move around the city (the first couple of quests railroad you to the Adventurer's Guild and the aetheryte before they let you go where you want), then bought a story skip and a job boost.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Ok, I'm all for them deleting the forums.

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Hell yeah!

Contrary to what OP said deleting content will make devs have even less time. You don't need to QA old content, and I really doubt SE even looks at it, but if you remove anything you absolutely need to make sure nothing references it and that there's no crashes or other undefined behavior because of deletion of some content. That is some real work and if any crashes happen because of it... well I wouldn't want to be the guy debugging it and I feel sorry for the guy who would have to.
Funfact: Nothing has ever been deleted from the game files. Even the old Tomestones are still there even though the oldest ones were phased out soon a decade ago. They are inaccessible but not removed.

Also this argument

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Originally Posted by Venandi

They don't have to do QA on it and by deleting it, it gives them more memory to make new content.

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The biggest memory hogger in anything is the graphics and the server side doesn't have them because why would it need them. It likely just has some binaries and scripts and the size of them is probably very minimal if you look at what's taking space. If you are concerned about memory point your finger at player data and I'm sure there's not much you can do to the size of that.

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Originally Posted by Venandi

Har har very funny. It won't be so funny when it starts snowing and you're going around on the streets yelling that it's still fall when the leaves already fell off completely.

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Because having snow in june means it's winter.

I'd rather not see content removed from the game, personally.

Coincidentally I've also recently been polishing off some of the levequest achievements lately - so they're definitely still relevant.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I'm fairly certain they've long since stopped QAing guildhests (or most obsolete old content)... or interacting with them at all. Bringing any dev attention back to them would probably result in a net loss in time to make new things if they need to QA it's removal.

Also, that's not how memory works.

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All BS aside... im not too sure about that here, ya know? After all they stated multiple times their memory for mount music is actually limited and bc of that we dont get too many different songs xD

Has no apparent impact on the devs ability to create new content. FFXI for example has A LOOOOOT of old content that no one has done in over a decade, but content is still being made for it today.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Ok, I'm all for them deleting the forums.

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And the lodestone, since people use that as a stalking/tracking device.