What makes a person think that their weapon is special? Is it the fact that it shows a high level achievement? (Such as the ultimate weapons). Is it to show off deep pockets? (Such as the crafted primal weapons). Or is it to show off how dedicated you are to the game? (Such as the relics).
If you can get the relic from start to finish in half a week, then is getting the relic special at all? A single step in Eureka could take the same amount of time the entire Bozja relic takes across all it's steps. Eureka made getting the final Physeos weapons special, because it required a lot of dedication to achieve.
Casual players will always welcome easier relics and more accessible glamour and content, but it also dilutes the value of these content. In the long run, if every relic is so easy to get, then what weapons are even left for hardcore players to show off? Keeping everything way too easy will frustrate hardcore players and compel them to leave. There needs to be some hard grind in place for the people playing this game 10 hours a day to work towards and feel proud of at the end, like the Physeos weapons were. The Bozja relic needed to be at least triple the grind to make people feel that it was something truly special.
Just my 2 cents.
Bozja is not grindy enough.
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06-02-2021, 04:06 PMkorekeraBozja is not grindy enough.
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06-02-2021, 04:11 PMwereotter
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06-02-2021, 04:15 PMBeautifulNerf
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06-02-2021, 04:15 PMPuc
I just want the shiny colors with my outfit. No need to be "I'm better than you" type of difficulty.
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06-02-2021, 04:18 PMNaoki34The only thing that can make me play like a Chinese farmer is glam.Quote:
Originally Posted by korekera
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06-02-2021, 04:21 PMVahlnirhttps://media.giphy.com/media/6eLVFfvYnirNm/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by wereotter
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06-02-2021, 04:21 PMNeoyoshiHah, i always fall for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wereotter
But in all seriousness, there is some real grind in the Save The Queen content, the player just has to choose whether they want to partake in it. -
06-02-2021, 04:27 PMMilkieTea
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06-02-2021, 04:28 PMGarnix
Wait, are hardcore players only playing because there are glowy weapons?
I thought they played a lot because they enjoyed the game.
My bad I guess.
If you really want to grind, I think there are enough grindy achievements available in the game. Every grind doesn't need to be tied to the relic weapon IMO. -
06-02-2021, 04:32 PMShibi
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06-02-2021, 04:38 PMVahlnirI don't know why, but that random lvl 2 Gladiator amuses me more than it should.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilkieTea
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06-02-2021, 04:40 PMElkanah
I took every single meme picture/gif in this thread. But I hit "Like" before I did it--cause I'm not a gobshite
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06-02-2021, 04:43 PMMilkieTeaIt's on all of these accounts and it just makes me laugh. Like... why is it there? Why does it exist? What's the point of it?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahlnir
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06-02-2021, 04:52 PMCKNovel
In all seriouness about Bozja grind.
It's great.
Non raiders already wait 3+ months for their 535 ilvl weapon, they can get them for a small grind.
What is amazing is that the grind is on multiple levels.
First level is Bozja story that requires farming Mettle.
Second level is the relic that requires farming fates + 48 man content.
Third level is duel, gil making and medals.
You can stop at a level if you don't need more. -
06-02-2021, 05:01 PMkorekera
So much harassment in this thread. I would like to remind you that such harassment can easily lead to a ban. My friend who invited me to the forums mentioned how one of his harassers was rightfully banned. Notice the medals. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...38#post5565938
It does not hurt you in any way to be kinder to new players. Coincidentally I've heard from my friends many other harassers have been banned from eons past. Live and let live and I'm sure no one will be banned ^^ -
06-02-2021, 05:31 PMMilkieTea
Hey! That's my post. I'm not banned >:0
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06-02-2021, 05:37 PMkorekeraBe very careful my dear or you'll join them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilkieTea
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06-02-2021, 05:39 PMMilkieTeaNo harassment from me ^u~, just pointed out your profile and said "try harder"!Quote:
Originally Posted by korekera
https://media.tenor.com/images/1662e...9555/tenor.gif
Edit: games back online :D -
06-02-2021, 05:44 PMkorekeraOh my dearest the GMs have banned people for less. Oh poor, sweet dearest lalafell. Oh my lalafell, as long as you give up this harassment campaign I very much doubt any harm will come to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilkieTea
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06-02-2021, 05:46 PMMilkieTeaThanks for pointing out my lalafell! I've been wanting to change for a while, do you think I should go for au ra or for miqo?Quote:
Originally Posted by korekera
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06-02-2021, 05:47 PMkorekeraOh my sweet lalafell, my dearest, please don't go down the dark path that Ammo has gone down, oh sweet soul, dearest lalafell.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilkieTea
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06-02-2021, 06:06 PMImoraYou know, threatening people with banning can be construed as harassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by korekera
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06-02-2021, 06:26 PMWoWThat's how it is over here with the casuals. If you're not an echo chamber, they will call you a troll or MPK or all sorts of things instead of actually discussing the point you mentioned. Because they don't want things to change to where you actually have to play the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by korekera
The relic weapons don't even deserve to be called that or even have a story behind them anymore. What makes them so special and powerful if you can easily obtain them? Just give people shiny weapons without wasting resources and be done with it. Since they don't care if it's special or not.
And here we have an exhibit of a casual who thinks they have found a smart comeback! But smart one, it was not!Quote:
Originally Posted by Imora
Here's another exhibit of another casual who thinks they have found a smart comeback. I never said they're not grindy enough. I said they're easy to obtain. Can you spot the difference? Here's a hint: Grind doesn't increase difficulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
You really should read carefully before you post next time. -
06-02-2021, 06:33 PMSeraphorQuote:
Originally Posted by WoW
So is it too grindy or not grindy enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
Seems you just want to post negative comments, even if they contradict. That seems kinda trollish to me. -
06-02-2021, 07:09 PMkorekeraOh my dear, I have never threatened anyone. I merely pointed out the facts. If you don't harass me, you obviously won't get banned. ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Imora
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06-02-2021, 08:09 PMForctyusGoldBozja isnt maybe grind enough. but that means, more people actually finish this relic weapon and get one, not like in Eureka, where myself wasnt yet able to get the final weapon. so no. youre wrong. and to this. meeeeh i dont know.Quote:
Originally Posted by korekera
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06-02-2021, 08:25 PMRein_eon_Osborne
Damn, they’re blowing their cover so fast in less than 3 pages. No fun :’(
Fun aside...good for you who think it’s not grindy enough. I’m happy they have made it THIS easy ;) Ty sooo much SE for easing up our troubles <3 -
06-02-2021, 09:07 PMNezeriusExcept the relic weapons were always designed to be the easier, grindy alternative to the weapon options that require more skill than time (Primal/Tomestone/Raid weapons).Quote:
Originally Posted by Garnix
Making it so easy that you can put one together in a week kinda defeats the point of that.
Honestly hoping they go back to the ARR/HW system for Endwalker, and release the relic steps way earlier to compensate for it being more of a grind. -
06-02-2021, 09:08 PMRoeshel
What am I reading
People who are threatening to get people banned are those who are frustrated at the fact that nobody is gonna get banned if they report them. So they use this as their last desperate resort to get people to treat them with the respect they do not deserve. -
06-02-2021, 09:08 PMRavor
Do eureka next, i give up on the second mob to farm
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06-02-2021, 10:13 PMSeraphorOP is talking about grind, not difficulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
You've severely misunderstood the purpose of relics if you think they're supposed to be difficult to obtain.
There are three types of flashy, glowy weapons:
Relics require a Grind
Crafted EX weapons require Gil (or crafting + a little grind)
If you want difficulty, then you go for Ultimates -
06-03-2021, 11:01 AMTroySoFab
This post makes me mad so I just going to call it bait.
Post, you are bait.