Did you (or do you plan to) level your Trust NPCs to 80?

Just kinda curious where the community lands on this. I've personally leveled 3 of them to 78 and the other 3 to 73. I'm honestly getting burnt out on it to the point I can't bring myself to do it, and I'm the kind of player that happily grinded all combat and non-combat jobs (minus two that are in the works) to 80. How about you guys? If you are leveling (or have leveled) all of them up, what motivated you to do so?

I just don't see any reason to do so. The only time I'm in a dungeon after the first clear is via roulette and TRUST cannot be used for roulette.

I do use TRUST when clearing a dungeon for the first time or if I want to level a healer job via dungeon, but that's not enough reason to actually level the TRUST.

It was painful but I eventually did it.

I consistently have runs that are much faster than trusts in expert so no, I don't have a reason to level them at all.

I burnt out instantly. I don't want to run Holminster Switch again but with how trusts are designed that's literally all I can do with them. Unless the exp gets extra nerfed or they add other ways to level them like a squadron or something so I don't have to be there for it, they'll just stay useless for me.

The Trust system is a worthless, poor play enabling tool. Resources would be better spent elsewhere.

I did it. It was not a particularly fun process. Getting alternative outfits or a title I never used was not a very strong carrot.

Urianger can even die to the first boss of the well. An npc run that wipes because the AI healer got himself killed.

I did it while leveling alternate classes. The slower pace was balanced out by the lack of a queue on dps, and I appreciated being able to tank without actual other players there to witness my mistakes. I didn't find it particularly painful, although it was definitely grindy. I have a feeling we'll have to do it again post-EW to get all trusts to level 90.

Did I bring my Trust NPCs to 80??
I don't think any of mine hit 72!

I enjoy reading everyones special dialogue (like that water boss in Matoya's Relict being Y'shtola's first), and sometimes use trusts when I first unlock a new duty, but man... I play this game to socialize. I almost always have a friend on when I wanna run a duty, and even if I don't randos are still preferable because they don't take all day to finish the run.

And if I'm ever compelled to actually use my Trusts to check out the Scions dialogue in [insert duty here] I can't because all that shit's level locked so I can only run them in Holminster.

At least with Squadrons you use them to unlock something for yourself (new grand company ranks), but Trusts only get you old outfits for the NPCs (and an achievement I suppose).

Even when I level a new DPS (I'm doing BLM and BRD now) I don't use Trusts to level them because this game gives us plenty to do in que. I'm grinding bicolor gemstones, levelling 2 beast tribes, fishing, crafting, decorating my house, etc. so I'm not even compelled to do Trusts for the instant que times.

tl;dr
Not big on Trusts.

Waste of time, no reason to touch it.

Used mine to level up my tanks to help get over tankxiety, as well as to level up dps jobs faster (got 4 jobs to 80 leveling all trusts to 80) I enjoyed it, runs were relaxing. Haven’t used them since I maxed them out though.

do we know if trusts will be bumped up to 80 in the new expansion? If so then I will put off leveling them, if not I will have to work it in while I level other roles for their role quests. I came back into the game from a long break during 5.4 and I've been playing catch up since and hadn't have the time to level trusts. lol

Leveled them all to 80. Great way to level DPS alts.

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Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa

do we know if trusts will be bumped up to 80 in the new expansion? If so then I will put off leveling them, if not I will have to work it in while I level other roles for their role quests. I came back into the game from a long break during 5.4 and I've been playing catch up since and hadn't have the time to level trusts. lol

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I mean... if they just got bumped to 80 wouldn't that automatically unlock the achievement for everyone? Not that that's a reason they can't, but it would be kinda weird.

I think they might just have a 2nd set of trusts with the EndWalker versions of these characters. Otherwise the grind to use them in the first place becomes prohibitively time consuming, and they devs are so keen on making content accessible.

Lol no and never.

Already did this.
Leveled few of the DPSes classes that I’m insecure of using in DF cause I’m just straight terrible at them. I can see why it’s exhausting if one tries to power level all of them in 5 days. I think I did mine within the span of 2 months or so.

It was a nice feature to have a chill run & see how the scions interacts.

Sure did. Got them all to 80 while leveling my alt jobs and farming gear for glamour. Yeah it was slow but I didn't expect it to be a rapid process, plus they ended up all capped before I did so that was neat.

The achievement title was nice and I'll do the same thing in EW and get them to 90. I just wish Squadrons could do 61-70 but that's mainly for alt characters as my main obviously already has everything at cap.

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Originally Posted by TheJarvisMan

Just kinda curious where the community lands on this. I've personally leveled 3 of them to 78 and the other 3 to 73. I'm honestly getting burnt out on it to the point I can't bring myself to do it, and I'm the kind of player that happily grinded all combat and non-combat jobs (minus two that are in the works) to 80. How about you guys? If you are leveling (or have leveled) all of them up, what motivated you to do so?

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They are all 80, I always do the first time MSQ related dungeons in Trust System, it allows a complete immersion.

I'll have plenty of time to sprint from the beginning to the end of the dungeons afterwards.

Their leveling has allowed me to go from a lot of 70 to 80 jobs.
It's also a way to make a cool dungeon when you've put up with hours of player incompetence.

In NG+ I also use the Trust System when possible. And I will pass 90, if I have to.

Got all of then to 80. It's not difficult at all especially after the buff. Maybe because I use them to level all the jobs, so it doesn't feel too much of a chore.

I did it back before you were able to switch back to Scenario mode after clearing Shadowbringers, which is to say I did it before the buffs to EXP gains made it reasonable. I probably won't do it again in Endwalker—at most I'll pick a handful of Trusts I like and level only them. That'll probably end up being Thancred, Alphinaud, Estinien, and if they don't drop her from the selection, Ryne.

yes just for achievment ive got Thancred,Ryne and Urianger done only the twins and Yshtola left

Yshtola is a terrible Trust aswell compared to ryne and Alisae borderline Ice mage so its gonna be awhile before i bother to level them

I'm still looking for reasons to actually run it and level them. There's really no need for them after doing the dungeon (the first time) to learn the mechanics by watching them do it lol. After that, they go back on the burner again till next set of dungeons become available (on the new patches)

I’d use them but having to level then by running a dungeon 6 times per NPC… nope. They need to boost the exp or do away with the leveling of them. As it is now, they spent a lot of money on making the trust system but not many use it due to not being able to because of the level wall.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

I’d use them but having to level then by running a dungeon 6 times per NPC… nope. They need to boost the exp or do away with the leveling of them. As it is now, they spent a lot of money on making the trust system but not many use it due to not being able to because of the level wall.

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FFXI's trust system is much better than xiv's-- and that's basically what I hoped for with the Grand company. We use GC soldiers for overworld (stuff like fates for ourselves)-- and then trusts in dungeons for dungeon based content (aside from raids and 24man raids)

After doing the requisite squadron missions for grand company rank, I never tried trusts and have no plans to do so.

I enjoy running dungeons, but doing so with NPCs was painfully boring.

I leveled all of them on my main and on one of my alts.

I leveled enough of them to be able to farm dungeons for gear for alts if I needed it.

But no, not worth it especially when we can see that members can/will be swapped out.

Edit: this is not to say I don’t like the trust system as it is. It is great to use to get passive xp (while watching Netflix or doing laundry), or for my wife who hates running with randos.

Also edit: as Icsah pointed out, we can in fact continue to use missing members (Ryne) in dungeon reruns.

Haven’t touched them, and not sure I ever will.

i did it as soon as they reduced the requierd exp for them to lvl up (yes initially it used to be way more than it is now)
i didnt look at it as grind... i looked at it as an alternativ way to lvl up additional jobs to 80. Probably wouldnt have done it if all of my jobs were already at 80.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

But no, not worth it, especially when we can see that members can/will be swapped out.

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Changing the roster for MSQ purposes doesn't mean the levelling avatar system is going to lose anyone. You're already using characters for dungeons they weren't present for.

Depends on what the queues would be , I'd probably continue leveling them up while I level up my Reaper and Sage.

All my jobs were 80 before they reduced the XP needed.
I explicitly levelled 4 jobs to 80 running a trust a day for awhile!
All my peeps are still level 75. And likely staying there forever.
It hurts my soul to run a dungeon with the trusts - it's a good 10 minutes slower per run than even the ones that show up in the Tales from Duty Finder thread. I mean ... WHY?!?!

I leveled them all to 80. I run Trusts for the MSQ - I get a more Final Fantasy offline MMO feel and I enjoy that with the story instead of 3 other random people. To each their own.

When I went back to level the other jobs up to 80, I ran the dungeons with the Trusts to not only level myself but them too. Once one got to 80, I switched them out with another Trust. It was a little tedious but considering I was able to take the gear drops from those dungeons and either level my desynth skill or turn them in for GC seals, it worked out nicely.

Doing them here and there if I need a time waster, but really I only want to experience flavour dialogue with Estinien interacting with others. I'm only up to level 75 with them, but I'm starting to wonder if it's worth my sanity at this point. ( '-')

I don't use them for first dungeon runs, and I don't even level jobs through trusts since I prefer to level jobs with actual players in instances. It also takes an infuriatingly long time. Buuuuuut I'm half-way there, I guess I should finish it just to be done.

Heck no. I just don't have the tolerance to run something six times in a row especially if I'm not a fan of that particular instance. While I do like a lot of ShB's dungeons there's one or two I could do without. I'd be much more inclined to use the feature if all it took was to run each dungeon once in sequence. I don't particularly care about the achievement and the title isn't attractive enough to chase on its own merits.

When I pushed everything to 80 it was MSQ roulette, Pixies, a touch of Bozja, and Leveling roulette for all DPS classes except BLM.

I definitely value them, especially as a first run, for the character interactions and the ability to stop and appreciate the dungeon scenery if I want. I don't enjoy having to level them before I can get back to replaying a dungeon of my choosing, though.

I've been chipping at it over time when I feel like it, but most of them are only up to Dohn Mheg.

Also I wish runs could be quicker (even if you got no EXP as a trade-off) just so I could try out all the different combinations of characters without it being such a chore.

I levelled all of them to 80. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, especially after they buffed the XP gains for them. It helps that I decided to level every job to 80 and Levelling trusts was a great reprieve of endless roulettes.

I levelled them all at launch, before they made the leveling easy. I got a few jobs to 80 in the process.
It was really not as bad as people say, especially at launch.
When I did leveling dungeons with other players I had to wait in the queue, and then because people did not know the dungeons it sometimes was longer than doing them with trust.
Nowadays, dungeon runs in roulette are probably more straightforward, and there are better ways to level up with Bozja.
So I am a bit glad I did this at launch.

Now I am looking forward to seeing people complain about having to level them all the way from 70 to 100 in a few years because there will be a mount as a reward for it. Just like people complaining about the 5.35 field notes rarity now that there is a mount associated to it :)

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I definitely value them, especially as a first run, for the character interactions and the ability to stop and appreciate the dungeon scenery if I want. I don't enjoy having to level them before I can get back to replaying a dungeon of my choosing, though.

I've been chipping at it over time when I feel like it, but most of them are only up to Dohn Mheg.

Also I wish runs could be quicker (even if you got no EXP as a trade-off) just so I could try out all the different combinations of characters without it being such a chore.

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This is mostly my big complaint with the system. There should just not be a leveling mechanic at all to the trusts. I mean, sure, have some kind of glamour achievement like “bring member through dungeons a, b and c 5x each to unlock glamour z for that character” (assuming they make a variety of glamours for trusts...)

The trust members don’t add enough meaningful variety to story to justify me leveling more than what I need to rerun the current dungeons.

Also @Iscah: I don’t know why I didn’t remember about being able to use old members on reruns; edited my earlier comment! Thanks!

I love the trust system for leveling those classes I am horrible at and don't wish to inflict on other people in DF, or classes I'm not super comfortable with (tanks and heals), and since I wanted that amaro mount, by the time I leveled everything, all the trust npcs were 80. If I am not feeling sociable, or not wanting to wait in dps queue, I will use trust to run something. Great for glam runs too, I don't feel like they are that much slower than a DF, and not having to wait for a queue or having to rush through a dungeon can be super nice. I'm looking forward to it for Endwalker personally.