When Nier crossover was announced I was really not into it; I felt like the Nier games were tacky. The crossover however changed my mind and made me want to buy all the Nier games now; bonus if they let me play as 2P in new game+ too, or in a future Nier game.
But what really got me about the FFXIV and Nier crossover was the story; the Anogg and Konogg situation and Komra, all of that was so well done. I never thought Lalafels/Dwarves were going to be the highlight of Shadowbringers, but damn it they really are.
I just want share my feedback with you and how this story really touched me personally. And dammit thank you for not killing off Anogg or making Anogg a soulless android, that would've really sunk me. And lastly I'll say this, when it comes to crossovers or raids do what you feel is right. These crossovers have made FFXIV a better game, at least for me anyway.
PS. I just finished the weekly story quests, that conclusion really pulled it all together.
I applaud you Square Enix and the Nier team (Spoilers!)
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05-28-2021, 01:57 PMAmnmaatI applaud you Square Enix and the Nier team (Spoilers!)
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05-29-2021, 03:36 AMItMe
Yo, I agree.
I thought it was really interesting that the focus of the storyline isn't so much about us saving the world (again, my we get enough of that) or about having an obligatory romp with the cameo characters, but it was about a small piece of the world and how the crossover impacted it and the people that live there. The dwarves were the center of the story and man I agree they were super well done.
As far as I'm aware 2P is only playable in the game she was made for: Soul Calibur 6, but who knows what the future may bring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnmaat
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05-29-2021, 03:45 AMBright-Flower
Glad you enjoyed it if this post isn't trolling, but I found the story to be all around pretty disapointing. I did like the dwarf stuff with the fallout of 2P's attack but the actual Automata part of the story was lazily handled.
I liked the raids gameplay wise though and several of the glams, so I'm good on that front at least.
2P isn't really a 'character' in soul calibur, just a palette swap of 2B as her alternate colors. With 2P being a pun because 2B and 2P meaning 'player 2.'Quote:
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05-29-2021, 03:55 AMhobostew
So uh my friend totally doesn't get the ending and it would be really cool if someone were to explain it to them. Asking for a friend cause I absolutely understood it. Yeah! Haha. Yep.
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05-29-2021, 03:56 AMItMeYes.Quote:
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05-29-2021, 04:28 AMAmnmaat
Thank you for the replies, I'm glad others enjoyed the raids, the story, the characters, and the events in general. I think people were expecting them to give the Nier androids more character value or more character screentime than they actually got. At the end of the day they're androids, they're there for missions. What really brought character to the story was Komra, the dwarf siblings, and the implications to the world if the bad androids succeeded.
Some believe Konogg died, but that can't really be considering how recently we got the letter from him and how recently the Bourgeois client was in talks with him for the dwarf automata. Basically the cutscenes we saw of him was like an echo flashback; either an echo or just pure flashbacks of what happens a few days to a few hours before we got to his shack in the Derelicts.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobostew
There was no hint of "phantasm" or ghost-like indications, like them fading into the background or anything; nor anything suggesting that Konogg died. Besides, his body would've been there or found somehow. The way I see it Anogg came back from whatever planet or location in the universe she went to with 2B and 9S and now they're running around Norvrandt.
However, I am open to discussion on what actually happened, there's a chance that it's not like this. -
05-29-2021, 10:05 AMMaikoRaines
I share your opinion on Anogg and Konogg. I didn't dislike the story but I do feel that it definitely was lacking a lot of depth.
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05-29-2021, 10:35 AMTaleraRistainThis sentence honestly makes me wonder if this is a troll thread. If it's not OP, I think you may have missed a story point or two.Quote:
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05-29-2021, 12:39 PMAmnmaatI know she became one during the story, but my impression is that after she came back with the most recent weekly quest (ending) she turned back to normal. At least her personality turned back to normal, simply Konogg's sister again, even if she remained part robot. That's how I saw it though; if I'm wrong it's worth discussing. It's better to discuss it than to call names.Quote:
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05-29-2021, 01:53 PMTaleraRistainAnogg died. She got crushed by that sphere. Some...form...of her (who the hell knows, it's not like this storyline explains anything) is who we interacted with and, I dunno, returned to the sphere when it went bye bye or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnmaat
Nobody really knows what was going on with that ending. It still could have been a dying hallucination of Konogg or something, who knows. Maybe he threw himself into the sea so that's why there is no body.
It seems you didn't mean it to be, but given how much negative feedback the story has gotten about the same points you're praising, your post seemed full of sarcasm. We've had a lot of troll threads like that lately so it's hard to tell anymore. -
05-29-2021, 02:41 PMVyrerus
Oh man, the first two posts in this thread are satirical gold, or at the very least, silver. Amnmaat didn't give a tell like ItMe.
It's like reading a quality transcription of Bizarro Superman's speech. -
05-29-2021, 02:50 PMTaleraRistainYeah I was trying to be nice and give the benefit of the doubt but it was just like "Uhhhhhh....."Quote:
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05-29-2021, 03:33 PMRosenstrauch
I mean, I'll certainly agree that the Dwarves were the highlight of the whole thing in terms of writing. At least up until the point where Glagg had half a dozen nervous breakdowns over the course of six weeks' worth of fetch quests before suddenly... uh, whatever happened to make him stop doing that.
It's also been a nice collection of glamour sets, music, and boss fights. But the rest of the writing, and the very crossover itself? I don't say this kind of thing often, but I feel it was a waste of the developers' resources and time. -
05-29-2021, 06:48 PMAmnmaat1. Anogg didn't die. When Konogg was staring at the white orb during our echo flashback that was where the "Anogg Fascimile (copy)" came out of. When we destroyed the orb the real Anogg was freed; but she gained automata powers by having been made part of the white orb when it fell on her. It's very important to look at the distinction between Anogg Fascimile and the real one. Furthermore, notice how in her letter to Konogg after the Tower raid she wrote about how she's been to other worlds; that implies that the Fascimile he saw wasn't the same one we saw during 5.5. She was exploring the other worlds (the white orb is a portal between worlds), why would an android version of her write to Konogg about having seen the other worlds?Quote:
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2. I strongly feel like what we saw recently with patch 5.55 was not a hallucination; if it was, his body would be there. If he died somewhere else why would the memory of them meeting again be at the shack and not where he jumped off/died? People are trying to read too deeply into Konogg's breakdown; he was recently commissioned to build a dwarf automata, his body wasn't there, he walked away with the real Anogg. When we closed the orb's portal in the Tower 2B and 9S disappeared, because as they explained; as long they remain in Norvrandt the portal can't be closed. That being the case there's no way Anogg could come back to Norvrandt if she was the Fascimile/Android copy of her. What came back to Konogg was the real Anogg; and she explained to him she's a genius.
You had to go straight to Ad hominen and then straight to name calling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyrerus
Unlike you, I will try to engage you in a civilized way; what about the post do you find at fault? Or that you can refute? I'd be open to changing my take on the Nier story within the crossover. Most likely you're projecting.
The whole Glagg and Anogg/Konogg situation tells me we're getting another quest somewhere down the road. But I'll attempt to explain my theory behind Glagg. What most likely happened with him is that a clone of him was made during the whole white orb cloning fiasco, and the real Glagg was brought back by Anogg herself. To further this, I'm thinking that 2P captured Glagg and made a clone of him to stop the dwarves and 2B from stopping her plans. Remember, when you're put into the white orb you're put into a portal. At the same time that Anogg came back the real Glagg came back as well. The timing lines up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch
I understand that people wanted a story that wasn't like a puzzle, but aren't the Nier games a whole big puzzle? It takes these sorts of analysis, study, and putting the pieces together to really understand the events of those games. I will admit that it doesn't fit the FFXIV story-telling style though, that's where I feel the core of the problem lies. -
05-29-2021, 09:10 PMItMeI don't understand what this means.Quote:
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Can you elaborate please?
What "tell" did I give and what was it a tell for?
My post was sincere. I liked the story.
I'm unfortunately not some gold tier satirist : (