Wooden Spiral Staircase

When the new spiral staircase was announced, I was excited, I had plans to use it in one of my characters' FC room in a lovely and elegant attic apartment styled design. I got supplies and got a friend to craft the staircase for me.

However, that is where the excitement ended and the frustration began.

For more than two hours, I tried positioning the staircase so that I could use it to lead to a second, lofted partial floor. However, the staircase is too tall to be usable for that purpose. Every combination of floated furniture I could think of to try and make the staircase usable has ended in failure and frustration.

Putting the shortest and least wide furniture that I can find in game without legs that would ruin the idea of it meeting with the floor and not poking through the other end (I tried both the Oasis Stall and the Hingan Sideboard) against the staircase prevents me from ascending the stairs fully.

Even extending the Flooring Mats to an extra square and placing the Flooring Mat ever so carefully meets with complete and utter disappointment, and frustration to the point that I am not sure I'll be able to finish the room that I have already spent hours and hours planning for and building up to this point.

I was SO excited for this furnishing. I spent all these days waiting for its arrival, and SO wanted to love it for its beauty and what it would add to my FC room. But now I am beyond frustrated.

Having decorated for FC rooms, apartments, and a small house... and having friends that have decorated beautiful spaces for both medium and large houses alike... I can only imagine it being even close to usable for large houses if they're meant for anyone other than a Lalafell to be able to utilize them at all.

Please, can something be done to make this staircase usable in spaces like mine, for someone of an average to tall height? Even making another, shorter version of the stairwell... or making a version that doesn't have the outer railing would be so much better, so much more usable for people like me.

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Originally Posted by GloryChan80

For more than two hours, I tried positioning the staircase so that I could use it to lead to a second, lofted partial floor. However, the staircase is too tall to be usable for that purpose.
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I can only imagine it being even close to usable for large houses if they're meant for anyone other than a Lalafell to be able to utilize them at all.

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I know what you mean. I'm using lofts to split each floor into 2 floors so I can make a complex little Lala sized house and the staircase is still too tall for my needs.
I wonder how they decided on that height. As is it's bad enough that part of me wants to just raise the lofts so they line up with the top of the stairs, but then the area above is still just a bit too snug (even for a min height Lala) and the area below them is just huge. Until we find a clever work around it feels like a real lose lose situation.

Honestly, there isn't even a solid work around for this. I personally was looking to make a Raktika inspired Hut for may future Male viera and thought the spiral stairs would add the extra flare to the three home style, however its clear this isn't really possible. The staircase was an ambitious idea but it feels like no-one play tested it first to be sure it would actually work. there just isn't a reasonable place to put them at unless you are in a large making some kind of lofted area.

You aren't wrong. As a house designer I cannot for the life of me think to how to make them work in a situation where I can use them as intended. As a max height Elezen the camera is ... yea.. no. The height they are at is unuseable to me, I cringe for all the Au Ra's, Roe's etc that are just too tall for them at all, let alone the height they go to.

Using the preview function, it looks like it’s that height because enough room is needed for taller races to not clip through the staircase as you go up, yet the design calls for the top to end on the same side as the bottom. (540 degrees)

They should have just cut-off 1/3-ish of a circle on top.

When I first saw the staircase, I thought, "Uh-oh". I was right, glad I didn't make one. Post if you guys find a good workaround.

It looks like something for mansion size to me

Is it possible to sink it into the floor? That might offer some relief to the issue of its height.

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Originally Posted by Arielen

Is it possible to sink it into the floor? That might offer some relief to the issue of its height.

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No, no floating down : (
Only floating up from a floor below.

Came here looking to see if anyone else had the same issue. At my height, placing the loft where the stairwell connects causes the camera to freak out from ceiling collision. It ain't comfy. I really hope they'll release a shorter version or something, because these things would save a few precious furniture slots and space.

This is the only way I've gotten it to work. It won't work for anything taller than a midlander and it isn't pretty, but it works.

https://i.postimg.cc/LXrbBn0p/ffxiv-...194715-734.png

https://i.postimg.cc/vTfSPbp6/ffxiv-...194735-317.png

https://i.postimg.cc/qRtF38ww/ffxiv-...194744-096.png

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Originally Posted by Nabril

This is the only way I've gotten it to work. It won't work for anything taller than a midlander and it isn't pretty, but it works.

https://i.postimg.cc/LXrbBn0p/ffxiv-...194715-734.png

https://i.postimg.cc/vTfSPbp6/ffxiv-...194735-317.png

https://i.postimg.cc/qRtF38ww/ffxiv-...194744-096.png

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Looks pretty good

just glitch it through the floor to make it shorter, not ideal but maybe that helps.

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Originally Posted by Arohk

just glitch it through the floor to make it shorter, not ideal but maybe that helps.

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Only if there are floors below where you wanna place it : (
Which doesn't work for either of the places I'd like to use it (My Small houses basement and my FC room).

Yes, simply put, it's to tall. I would say 3-4 steps need to be removed from it. Perhaps make each step wider to get it to end in the same place as it does.

I feel bad for the person that designed it, finally getting their piece implemented in game only to find they can't actually use it cause no one actually tested it in a house.

Not to mention that in the spaces where glitching it through the floor is a possibility, the railing along the outside still makes it prohibitively hard to use the staircase at all in my experience.

nope we have a mansion and they dont work well in here either and its completely stupid, we wanted to b level with the marble walls and to do that meant floating them, and well once u float them u get blocked by a invisible barrier which is pathetic

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

It looks like something for mansion size to me

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we have a mansion and they don't work in there at all, we even tried floating them and when we had them lined up the way we needed them to be, we was hit with a invisible barrier preventing us from using them, its a stupid housing item if u can't use them how we wanted, they should have made 3 different sized ones for the different size houses that is available

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Originally Posted by DevilVentress

we have a mansion and they don't work in there at all, we even tried floating them and when we had them lined up the way we needed them to be, we was hit with a invisible barrier preventing us from using them, its a stupid housing item if u can't use them how we wanted, they should have made 3 different sized ones for the different size houses that is available

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It's not the house size that's the problem. It's the floor to ceiling height and how high we can place a loft for it to be functional as one.

The Spiral Staircase should have been made shorter so we could stack as needed just as we combine 2-3 Wooden Steps to create a staircase the height needed.

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Originally Posted by Arohk

just glitch it through the floor to make it shorter, not ideal but maybe that helps.

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Glitching it through the floor doesn't work. The railing goes down with it and that completely closes it off so that you can't step into it. We've tried this and it just doesn't work.

Glad I wasnt the only one with this problem LOL....I made it day one, had all the mats on hand, was prepping to sell a ton until I myself after an hour slamming my head into a wall, or floor or hell everything I tried to make it work realized, soon everyone might see that problem and sales would be dismal at best...

I half thought, well crap, maybe the HGTV 14 crew might figure it out before too long, but my hopes are going fast...the first step rung should be level with the ground so it isn't going as high but that still doesnt solve the problem it doesnt connect to crap easily either lol...

I too was super stoked when I first saw it.

How have the sales on this item been?

I know that on my main server, a few of them are still selling here and there, but the prices are dropping pretty quickly from what they had been when they were first dropped.

The only way I see is to float it up from the basement floor, and if you don't have a basement I guess you're SoL, sadly.

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Originally Posted by Nabril

Glitching it through the floor doesn't work. The railing goes down with it and that completely closes it off so that you can't step into it. We've tried this and it just doesn't work.

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Oh didn't see this comment. Well guess we are all SoL. Maybe in a large house it can reach the third floor. I haven't yet played with it. SE needs to fix this somehow.

I think it could work if they took the railing off, or tapered it to get smaller as it goes up. That way, floating it could, theoretically, work(?). I've tried floating it, rotating it, etc but my Au Ra can't ascend at all after it's so low. It also seems like it's collision/float allowance is finicky, otherwise it just shoots up to the top floor.

I also think the spiral can be a little 'looser' and that could help, as well, but I doubt they'll completely redo it. As it is, yeah, they're kinda useless. Which is really sad because I wanted to use them so bad to save some slots. :/

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Originally Posted by Nabril

Glitching it through the floor doesn't work. The railing goes down with it and that completely closes it off so that you can't step into it. We've tried this and it just doesn't work.

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I just got around to testing it. I'm not having any issues getting on it if I've glitched it up from my basement. You do need to "enter" from where the railing starts to appear and or jump over the partially exposed railing, though.

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Originally Posted by GloryChan80

I know that on my main server, a few of them are still selling here and there, but the prices are dropping pretty quickly from what they had been when they were first dropped.

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That's normal now for any crafted item. Too many players flooding the market with items (especially the new ones) now that crafting is easy to level not to mention some of the RMT bots that have moved to crafting to get gil to sell. Unless the recipe includes a rare material (like Lotus Leaf for the Eastern Indoor Pond)), prices have crashed hard by the second day.

Sales wise, my MB is showing the last 20 sales occurring over 46 hours but the prices are down to about 150% of material cost if you're starting with raw materials or about 125% of material cost if you're buying the lumber/glue.

Really just here to put my support in with this thread. I, too, was INCREDIBLY excited to use this piece. But it's honestly just far, far too tall. Even on a smaller race I can't make it work in a way that's feasible for myself and friends. :(

This item definitely has issues. It just feels like this item was rushed and not properly tested.

1) It's way too high, it goes so much more higher than a door that what little room you have at the top to place it level with a wooden loft is basically crawling space.
2) There's no means to connect the stairway with a loft, if you try to flush the last step with a wooden loft the loft then blocks your way trying to get back down/up again.

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Originally Posted by Merrnryn

You aren't wrong. As a house designer I cannot for the life of me think to how to make them work in a situation where I can use them as intended. As a max height Elezen the camera is ... yea.. no. The height they are at is unuseable to me, I cringe for all the Au Ra's, Roe's etc that are just too tall for them at all, let alone the height they go to.

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I put one of these in my loft, and oh god. I just decided to give up and use it, because its so cute. All my lala friends love it, but I hardly use it being a male viera lol.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I put one of these in my loft, and oh god. I just decided to give up and use it, because its so cute. All my lala friends love it, but I hardly use it being a male viera lol.

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My Elezen and Femroe have a very hard time using it without problems. It's a lovely piece of decoration, but is hardly a useful staircase for the taller and larger people.

A lot of people here were saying they were looking for ways how to use the staircase. I've incorporated it in my house design and a lot of decorators who have visited have commented that it's the first time they saw the staircase used well.

You can see it in this walkthrough video. I'm entering the house at 1:29. https://youtu.be/s9FOki9QhVA

The loft space is high enough for normal sized people. No issues for Aura girls, Cats, midlanders and female highlanders. I've tried with a male highlander 2 days ago and he did fine with the walkway where it has the normal ceiling but when he got to the part with the second spiral staircase where I have a lower ceiling made with marble alcove bed, his head was scraping the marble.

I've also heard from 2 Viera that my house made them feel cramped. I'm assuming they were referring to that loft portion because everything else in the house is wide open by design.