PSA: You can pay to win in Bozja

Who needs to grind 25 mettles when you have the pay2win mount? If you haven't noticed the pay2win mount gives +1 speed in every map including Bozja. This is a huge oversight by Square Enix that should be fixed immediately.

This is something I would expect from a KMMO, not a big name mmo like FFXIV. Imagine if WoW did something like this!

I hope this was helpful :)

I know the phrase of "don't take the bait", but if you're going to troll at least do it proper, all mounts are set to a fixed speed in bozja. It's a speed penalty compared to no mount speed buffs, actually, makes them only slightly faster than sprinting.

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Originally Posted by MPK

I hope this was helpful :)

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Do you, though?

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Originally Posted by Laphicet

I know the phrase of "don't take the bait", but if you're going to troll at least do it proper, all mounts are set to a fixed speed in bozja. It's a speed penalty compared to no mount speed buffs, actually, makes them only slightly faster than sprinting.

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Actually as of this patch, MPK is *sorta* right, as now mounts can go faster in Bozja. The patch notes say:

"Players can now increase mount speed.
Purchase a Bozjan Southern Front Riding Map from the Resistance quartermaster at Utya's Aegis (X:14.2 Y:29.7) to increase the speed of mounts on the southern front."

So yes, without getting the riding map, the motorcycle does go faster in the zone then your other mounts. But the price of the map is pretty low, I think it's like 25 clusters. Not really a big deal either, considering that it's not too terribly difficult to get to where you need to go though aetheryte shards.

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Originally Posted by Laphicet

I know the phrase of "don't take the bait", but if you're going to troll at least do it proper, all mounts are set to a fixed speed in bozja. It's a speed penalty compared to no mount speed buffs, actually, makes them only slightly faster than sprinting.

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See Bozja content is so bad that people don't even realize you can get +1 speed from mettles! I don't blame you but that's what this PSA is for!

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Originally Posted by MPK

See Bozja content is so bad that people don't even realize you can get +1 speed from mettles! I don't blame you but that's what this PSA is for!

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It's like they didn't even bother reading the patch notes because ReAdInG iS hArD!!

For someone who hates anything non-Ultimate, you sure spend a LOT of time moaning about Bozja. We get it, you hate it, do your stuff outside of it if you decide to do the relics(though with your attitude towards anything not Ultimate, no idea why you would even bother...)

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Originally Posted by Infindox

Actually as of this patch, MPK is *sorta* right, as now mounts can go faster in Bozja. The patch notes say:

"Players can now increase mount speed.
Purchase a Bozjan Southern Front Riding Map from the Resistance quartermaster at Utya's Aegis (X:14.2 Y:29.7) to increase the speed of mounts on the southern front."

So yes, without getting the riding map, the motorcycle does go faster in the zone then your other mounts. But the price of the map is pretty low, I think it's like 25 clusters. Not really a big deal either, considering that it's not too terribly difficult to get to where you need to go though aetheryte shards.

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The speed boost that the SDS Fenrir offers is only available in areas where said boosts are already available. So basically, you get to ride around zones where riding maps are purchasable for and are able to take advantage of that boost. Bozjan Southern Front's mount speed has been fixed from the start. The latest riding map doesn't change that, and it provides the same boost to SDS Fenrir as it does to every single mount one can use. All mounts have been on even ground in there, before and after this addition.

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Originally Posted by MPK

Who needs to grind 25 mettles when you have the pay2win mount? If you haven't noticed the pay2win mount gives +1 speed in every map including Bozja. This is a huge oversight by Square Enix that should be fixed immediately.

This is something I would expect from a KMMO, not a big name mmo like FFXIV. Imagine if WoW did something like this!

I hope this was helpful :)

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Aw man I thought you got banned. Guess I'll just have to keep reporting you

I didn't even know the SDS Fenrir had a faster speed since the only people I see using it do so for the cool motorcycle.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

The speed boost that the SDS Fenrir offers is only available in areas where said boosts are already available. So basically, you get to ride around zones where riding maps are purchasable for and are able to take advantage of that boost. Bozjan Southern Front's mount speed has been fixed from the start. The latest riding map doesn't change that, and it provides the same boost to SDS Fenrir as it does to every single mount one can use. All mounts have been on even ground in there, before and after this addition.

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Yes but the motorcycle, without the map, would go the same speed as your other mounts with the map, would it not? Because now there's a faster speed. Not like it matters much in the long run like I said, becuase of how the map of Bozja is and how low cost the map is.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

Yes but the motorcycle, without the map, would go the same speed as your other mounts with the map, would it not? Because now there's a faster speed. Not like it matters much in the long run like I said, becuase of how the map of Bozja is and how low cost the map is.

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Yeah, but it's not even remotely pay to win as MPK suggests. We all know what they are though. To be honest, I think I misread your post a bit and mixed up some context so I apologize if there's some sort of misunderstanding here. I'm tired. lol

Generally speaking the fenrir bike does have faster base speed, but its just the same speed as if you bought the speed boost. Weather or not this applies to bozdja I've nary a clue. The only "PtW" thing about it is on new x-pacs since you'll have the faster movement from the start. Not that the minor speed increase matters since flying speed is identical to ALL mounts and, as mentioned by others, the speed boost items for zones are generally very easy to obtain anyway. It's more of purchasing a QoL thing but if you drop that kinda cash for something so small then I can only envy the amount of disposable income you posses.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

The latest riding map doesn't change that, and it provides the same boost to SDS Fenrir as it does to every single mount one can use. All mounts have been on even ground in there, before and after this addition.

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Actually no. I did some testing to see since I hadn't bought the riding map yet.

Timing from the moment I touched the gate of the main camp to the lake in the south, it took gabriel about 32~ seconds to reach. It took the SDS Fenrir only about 24 following the near exact same route. So the Fenrir is receiving the enhanced speed boost in Bozja of the riding map without having purchased it.

Post purchase it took Gabriel the same 24-ish seconds to reach, and Fenrir also still took 24-ish seconds. Just technically someone starting brand new in Bozja with Fenrir would have a small mount speed advantage than someone without one.

But ultimately it's not that big of a deal. The riding map is extremely cheap and can be gotten in about 20-30minutes of a good cluster farm, it's just clear they're trying to find any reason whatsoever to hate on Bozja, no matter how much of a non-issue it is.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

Actually no. I did some testing to see since I hadn't bought the riding map yet.

Timing from the moment I touched the gate of the main camp to the lake in the south, it took gabriel about 32~ seconds to reach. It took the SDS Fenrir only about 24 following the near exact same route. So the Fenrir is receiving the enhanced speed boost in Bozja of the riding map without having purchased it.

Post purchase it took Gabriel the same 24-ish seconds to reach, and Fenrir also still took 24-ish seconds. Just technically someone starting brand new in Bozja with Fenrir would have a small mount speed advantage than someone without one.

But ultimately it's not that big of a deal. The riding map is extremely cheap and can be gotten in about 10-20minutes of a good cluster farm, it's just clear MPK is trying to find any reason whatsoever to hate on Bozja, no matter how much of a non-issue it is.

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Oh, gotcha. I just assumed that since it was fixed from the get-go that it remained that way. Thanks for the information. But yeah, still not a big deal. Getting the map is easy, even if you aren't cluster farming. I got a lot of clusters just by doing skirmishes.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

Aw man I thought you got banned. Guess I'll just have to keep reporting you

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I would never do such a thing as break the ToS! How dare you even suggest I'd ever do such a thing! The ToS is absolute!

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah, but it's not even remotely pay to win as MPK suggests. We all know what they are though. To be honest, I think I misread your post a bit and mixed up some context so I apologize if there's some sort of misunderstanding here. I'm tired. lol

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Its fine! My orginal post was saying MPK was right about the speed but not right about it being pay to win lol. I do know not everyone reads patch notes and may not have known about the map.

What's the "win" part of this equation? Getting to FATEs faster? I hate grinding FATEs, that's not a prize it's just more work.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

What's the "win" part of this equation? Getting to FATEs faster? I hate grinding FATEs, that's not a prize it's just more work.

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If the internet has taught us anything, it's that being able to claim "First" is of utmost importance. If you're not declaring yourself first to the FATE, are you even winning?

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Originally Posted by spf1200

Aw man I thought you got banned. Guess I'll just have to keep reporting you

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"Hello moderators? MPK is saying the truth again and it's hurting me... Make them stop!"

No wonder SE doesn't take the English forums seriously.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

Aw man I thought you got banned. Guess I'll just have to keep reporting you

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To be honest, I always look forward to MPKs hot take on all the topics. Ever since titanmen vanished I’ve had this hole in my heart that MPK fills.

I've known about this mount for awhile. I need to buy it at some point, probably best by EW launch, so I can win too! The time saved with the new zones, and just for a little cash!

I get the feeling MPK should just go back to WoW whilst he waits for the next Ultimate, he clearly doesn't like the content he's playing and have made abundantly clear he prefers WoW. Imagine continually paying for a game you don't like and paying for sockpuppet accounts to troll a game you don't like.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

I get the feeling MPK should just go back to WoW whilst he waits for the next Ultimate, he clearly doesn't like the content he's playing and have made abundantly clear he prefers WoW. Imagine continually paying for a game you don't like and paying for sockpuppet accounts to troll a game you don't like.

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At least he's not breaking the TOS and indulging in illegal RP.

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Originally Posted by WoW

At least he's not breaking the TOS and indulging in illegal RP.

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You keep trying that one and you already know I don't. Come on man, come up with better material, you've failed to get a bite on this one the last few times.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

You keep trying that one and you already know I don't. Come on man, come up with better material, you've failed to get a bite on this one the last few times.

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Not according to your posts. But then again, I didn't say I was talking about you. Now I'm more certain that you do.

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Originally Posted by WoW

At least he's not breaking the TOS and indulging in illegal RP.

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Maybe they should. It could give them something more interesting to talk about. :B

While it's pretty well-known that the motorcycle mount has a higher base speed... I just don't see how it's that big a deal. There just isn't that huge a benefit to getting around faster.

All gathering nodes are personal, you're generally unlikely to get mobbed by enemies if you run through them (and if there's supposed to be enemies surrounding the location, there is a quest-specific spawn zone), and you're seldom racing to get to any one point on the map unless it's a FATE. Heck, all the "important" stuff in Bozja is actually queueable; critical engagements don't require you to actually get there in time, just hop into the queue and you'll be teleported into it. Speaking of which, since travel times are pretty much non-issue between teleporting and flying, the higher mount speed feels a bit superfluous.

At most, the increased mount speed is just getting you a small amount of convenience and the ability to feel a bit less sluggish while running around on the ground. It's a convenience that's easy to get attached to, but it's still a pretty minor convenience.

So is it really "pay to win" if what you're getting doesn't mean anything?

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Maybe they should. It could give them something more interesting to talk about. :B

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How dare you suggest that we break section 3.3!! Have you not seen the divine punishment that befell those who did?

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Originally Posted by WoW

Not according to your posts. But then again, I didn't say I was talking about you. Now I'm more certain that you do.

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All right I confess. Though I've never admitted on the forums, but yes, for April Fools, I did run a Kugane Fried Chicken event, I thought it'd be funny but maybe I should have taken the guy seriously who showed up claiming to be Colonel Sanders' lawyer instead of trying to sell him Chocobo karaage.

I should have realised after the whole McDonalds/McDowells incident in Coming to America. I thought it'd fall under satire, but I didn't meant to birsmirch the good colonel's chicken.

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Originally Posted by WoW

How dare you suggest that we break section 3.3!! Have you not seen the divine punishment that befell those who did?

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Easily.
And I'm sure Section 3.3 would go easy on you and MPK for doing it, seeing as you're all such close friends. They might even join you. ♥
That glistening, Lala moustache, your midlander twink looks, and MPK's Ultimate titles, colliding in a whirlwind of passion.
I ship it. :D

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Originally Posted by WoW

At least he's not breaking the TOS and indulging in illegal RP.

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At least they can pull off the troll persona, unlike yourself, as bad of a troll as they are. You may want to reconsider your role here.

Imagine being this upset for so long over content that is completely optional and that no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to partake in.

Imagine...