Hildebrand

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03-13-2021, 12:16 PM
Cirque-it

Hildebrand

I HATE the hildebrand questline.. HATE HATE HATE it... The only reason I'm doing it, is because Mentor roulette is locked behind it... Can we please undo that!

The questline actually hurts my brain, it hurts my mood, I hate it hate it hate hate it HATE it
03-13-2021, 12:21 PM
Zanarkand-Ronso

You can skip the cutscenes, in case you forgot.
You can also just not read any of the Dialogue and just run through the Quests.
03-13-2021, 05:52 PM
Erendis

You also get a neat dance from it. But personally, I can't wait for Hildibrant to return in EW.
03-13-2021, 08:50 PM
Frizze

Mentor roulette exists to help fill ques. Hildy unlocks 4 trials, some of which are long ques because of how many people dont have them unlocked(either due to lack of interest or lack of knowledge they exist). If doing the thing that mentor roulette exists for isnt something you can handle, maybe stop pretending to be a mentor.
03-13-2021, 08:54 PM
Equitable_Remedy

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Originally Posted by Cirque-it

The questline actually hurts my brain, it hurts my mood, I hate it hate it hate hate it HATE it

Who hurt you?
03-13-2021, 09:03 PM
TheMightyMollusk

I can't stand Lalafells, but we still have to deal with them.
03-13-2021, 09:03 PM
Ralph2449

But the questline is hilarious xd
03-13-2021, 09:46 PM
Kes13a

I agree, imagine the horribleness of including something light and fun in a video game!

being a mentor is all about drive and elitism! shouldnt have to deal with things that are enjoyable, gotta get to be a mentor so you can grind those saplings into mindless drones that just do savages an spend all their time number crunching!!!

(on a personal note, I find the questline hilarious and a nice change of pace. I think they were sadly missed in the first given that after the last installment was a golden opportunity to have them appear there)

bottom line is, not all content is enjoyed by all. As a mentor, you SHOULD have to do all content so that you are familiar with it. even if its fun things that you hate....
03-13-2021, 11:42 PM
Lanadra

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

You can skip the cutscenes, in case you forgot.
You can also just not read any of the Dialogue and just run through the Quests.

This, it's what I do.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Mentor roulette exists to help fill ques. Hildy unlocks 4 trials, some of which are long ques because of how many people dont have them unlocked(either due to lack of interest or lack of knowledge they exist). If doing the thing that mentor roulette exists for isnt something you can handle, maybe stop pretending to be a mentor.

Or.. you can accept that not everyone likes the same content. All the OP said is that they hate Hildibrand's stuff.. and they're not the only one. You don't need to go on a mentor related tirade over it. I will agree though that Hildibrand stuff shouldn't be removed from mentor roulette.
03-14-2021, 12:38 AM
Zeich

I love the Hildebrand series and was disappointed that there wasn't a questline in ShB for it so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's alright if it's not your cup of tea - you're welcome to skip dialogue and just move on. But there's no need to go on a vitriolic tantrum over it just because you had to do it to unlock content. It's light-hearted, humorous fun for those who enjoy it, and for those who don't, well... the solution has been given multiple times.
03-14-2021, 03:24 AM
Ilenya

I can't be the only one who is more or less resigned to just...Not unlocked Mentor Roulette because it's gated behind something I really don't want to do, am I?
03-14-2021, 03:40 AM
TaleraRistain

It makes a lot of sense for Hildy to be part of that because there are trials that it helps fill that otherwise might not be filled. And they're just simple, basic level trials.

The only thing that doesn't really make sense in that roulette are Extremes. Just because if you're tackling something like that you're probably not someone who is going to be in the Novice Network. I've seen a lot of valid criticism about Extremes in Mentor Roulette since a lot of the time people just bail. So the person new to it wasted a ton of time in queue when they could have gotten in and gotten going in PF.

But basic normal stuff is exactly the sort of thing folks will need help with and should be in that roulette.
03-14-2021, 03:48 AM
Lanadra

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

It makes a lot of sense for Hildy to be part of that because there are trials that it helps fill that otherwise might not be filled. And they're just simple, basic level trials.

The only thing that doesn't really make sense in that roulette are Extremes. Just because if you're tackling something like that you're probably not someone who is going to be in the Novice Network. I've seen a lot of valid criticism about Extremes in Mentor Roulette since a lot of the time people just bail. So the person new to it wasted a ton of time in queue when they could have gotten in and gotten going in PF.

But basic normal stuff is exactly the sort of thing folks will need help with and should be in that roulette.

Not to mention even just a lot of the Extremes are also stuff which people generally have a 'don't do them through DF' stance on.
03-14-2021, 05:11 AM
VelKallor

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Originally Posted by Zeich

I love the Hildebrand series and was disappointed that there wasn't a questline in ShB for it so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's alright if it's not your cup of tea - you're welcome to skip dialogue and just move on. But there's no need to go on a vitriolic tantrum over it just because you had to do it to unlock content. It's light-hearted, humorous fun for those who enjoy it, and for those who don't, well... the solution has been given multiple times.

Yoshi has said he will return. The issue, I think he said, is that it was getting stale.

Patience :)
03-14-2021, 05:30 AM
TheMightyMollusk

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

It makes a lot of sense for Hildy to be part of that because there are trials that it helps fill that otherwise might not be filled. And they're just simple, basic level trials.

I still see people get rolled in Kugane Ohashi fairly regularly. Mostly because they don't listen to advice about mechanics and assume it's just another faceroll, and then Bad Things happen.
03-14-2021, 08:03 AM
MoonPhaseAlpha

Hildibrand has it's good moments and it's weird ones... Overall, I miss the guy. And the emote you get at the end is totally worth it imo :)
03-14-2021, 06:02 PM
Frizze

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Originally Posted by Lanadra

Or.. you can accept that not everyone likes the same content. All the OP said is that they hate Hildibrand's stuff.. and they're not the only one. You don't need to go on a mentor related tirade over it. I will agree though that Hildibrand stuff shouldn't be removed from mentor roulette.

I totally accept that not everyone likes the same content. I didnt actually present an opinion about the content in question, because how i feel is irrelevant. I stated 3 facts(reason for roulette, trials behind hildy, that they can be long ques - the most recent one especially), and i expressed my skepticism about the OP(albeit, in a slightly aggressive way). They didnt actually need anyone to tell them they can skip cutscenes, advance dialogue without reading, and do the other things to make something they dont enjoy bearable. The fact that their proffered solution to not liking a questline was to make four normal-level difficulty trials harder to que for makes me skeptical about the reason they want the mentor roulette in the first place(are they actually there to help or are they only pretending so they can get rewards?). So... yeah, i stand by that.
03-17-2021, 12:39 AM
Cirque-it

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I can't stand Lalafells, but we still have to deal with them.

Oh dont even get me started haha! I think thre should be strict rules regarding the use of lalafells... but I'm afraid to touch that subjec tin here since its very not PC
03-17-2021, 12:41 AM
Cirque-it

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Originally Posted by Lanadra

This, it's what I do.

Or.. you can accept that not everyone likes the same content. All the OP said is that they hate Hildibrand's stuff.. and they're not the only one. You don't need to go on a mentor related tirade over it. I will agree though that Hildibrand stuff shouldn't be removed from mentor roulette.

I mean I gues if 4 trials are locked behind it I can see why you want your mentors to be familiar with it... but man it sucks.. and it takes HOURS even if you skip the dialogue and cutscenes
03-17-2021, 01:22 AM
Bright-Flower

Well you can always just not unlock mentor roulette if it's that big of a deal.
03-17-2021, 02:09 AM
Ammokkx

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Originally Posted by Cirque-it

Oh dont even get me started haha! I think thre should be strict rules regarding the use of lalafells... but I'm afraid to touch that subjec tin here since its very not PC

ah, you're that kind of person.

Being unable to make dividing lines between certain fictional elements and realism does go a long way to explaining why you wouldn't like absurd comedy content, yes.