Illsabard locations to get to Garlamald ?

Does anyone have any clue to wear the most likely places in Ilsabard we would need to cross through to get to Garlamald beside Thavnair? :confused:

Ghimlyt would be my guess. With the chaos at and around the Capital and the civil war, I expect the legions to retreat to deal with that, opening the way through Ghimlyt.

We're probably just going to fly in from Thavnair. None of the map was unclouded so we're probably not going to go anywhere that hasn't already been seen on before.

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Originally Posted by GoldStarz

We're probably just going to fly in from Thavnair. None of the map was unclouded so we're probably not going to go anywhere that hasn't already been seen on before.

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We still haven't seen the full trailer so I wouldn't bank on that just yet.

Assuming they're sticking to the usual six field zones per expansion there's still three that haven't been shown off.

I would like to see Terncliff get expanded on, because well, they already have assets and also it is across the ocean from Thavnair if I recall.

With Terncliff being reclaimed by the alliance I feel it's a good vantage point to:
A) reach deeper into Ilsabard
B) reach Thavnair more easily, it's less of a trip versus going via Limsa or any of the Eastern ports.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

We still haven't seen the full trailer so I wouldn't bank on that just yet.

Assuming they're sticking to the usual six field zones per expansion there's still three that haven't been shown off.

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You're right that we haven't seen the full trailer but they could have cut the map section entirely if there was something they didn't want to show us, especially since the map has been updated to include the Radz-at-Han flag and the tower in Garlemald.

We're almost 100% going to Sharlayan after the Sage reveal and all the hinting, so that's 2 areas left that we don't know about and none of them are close to each other. No reason to think the other two won't follow suit.

The clouds on the map will definitely be removed in the full trailer. If you look in the bottom right corner during the trailer you can see that they already removed the clouds over Dalmasca.

We might just go globe-trotting around on the Scions' new airship, but if we go on foot then heading north from Thavnair would probably make the most sense since Thavnair is you know, already confirmed.

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Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier

The clouds on the map will definitely be removed in the full trailer. If you look in the bottom right corner during the trailer you can see that they already removed the clouds over Dalmasca.

We might just go globe-trotting around on the Scions' new airship, but if we go on foot then heading north from Thavnair would probably make the most sense since Thavnair is you know, already confirmed.

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That's more evidence that the clouds won't be removed though. If they already edited the map, then why would they further edit it? I don't think people are appreciating the work that would need to be done just to have a fake map that they didn't need to show in the first version of the trailer to begin with if it wasn't the real thing.

And honestly, do you really think that two areas will do the largest known continent on Hydaelyn any justice? Of course it won't. People need to accept that most of mainland Ilsabard won't be coming in 6.0 and they're gonna have to wait a bit longer for that expansion.

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Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier

The clouds on the map will definitely be removed in the full trailer. If you look in the bottom right corner during the trailer you can see that they already removed the clouds over Dalmasca.

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Hah, I'd just noticed that while rewatching the trailer. It uses the same design as Fran's map, incidentally.

Also, the Anchorite at Corvos intrigues me. From what I know it's the remains of an incredibly large statue on the Ilsabardian side of the Corvos Narrow. The fact that it's pointed out in the world map is what makes me raise an eyebrow.

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Originally Posted by GoldStarz

That's more evidence that the clouds won't be removed though. If they already edited the map, then why would they further edit it? I don't think people are appreciating the work that would need to be done just to have a fake map that they didn't need to show in the first version of the trailer to begin with if it wasn't the real thing.

And honestly, do you really think that two areas will do the largest known continent on Hydaelyn any justice? Of course it won't. People need to accept that most of mainland Ilsabard won't be coming in 6.0 and they're gonna have to wait a bit longer for that expansion.

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Except they've done that before. Starting here, we'd seen the first trailer for Stormblood at FanFest, then at the final FanFest they released that trailer, where the clouds moved first towards Othard and then revealing Hingashi.

Note that even if the whole landmass is revealed it doesn't mean it'll all be explorable. Look at the Othardian map and you'll see PLENTY of places we haven't been to, yet, nor can explore. The Dalvanth Grath, The Knowing Sea, The Unpromised, whatever the heck Blindfrost is. The whole Isle of Koshu in Hingashi. Hell, we've had Thavnair and Old Sharlayan and Aerslaent revealed since Stormblood and haven't set foot in either, yet. We're barely going to Paglth'an in 5.5 as a dungeon when on the Eorzean map it looks about as big as MOR DHONA.

Edit: Also, the Burn looks larger than Yanxia and we still go there... for a Dungeon.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

Hah, I'd just noticed that while rewatching the trailer. It uses the same design as Fran's map, incidentally.

Also, the Anchorite at Corvos intrigues me. From what I know it's the remains of an incredibly large statue on the Ilsabardian side of the Corvos Narrow. The fact that it's pointed out in the world map is what makes me raise an eyebrow.



Except they've done that before. Starting here, we'd seen the first trailer for Stormblood at FanFest, then at the final FanFest they released that trailer, where the clouds moved first towards Othard and then revealing Hingashi.

Note that even if the whole landmass is revealed it doesn't mean it'll all be explorable. Look at the Othardian map and you'll see PLENTY of places we haven't been to, yet, nor can explore. The Dalvanth Grath, The Knowing Sea, The Unpromised, whatever the heck Blindfrost is. The whole Isle of Koshu in Hingashi. Hell, we've had Thavnair and Old Sharlayan and Aerslaent revealed since Stormblood and haven't set foot in either, yet. We're barely going to Paglth'an in 5.5 as a dungeon when on the Eorzean map it looks about as big as MOR DHONA.

Edit: Also, the Burn looks larger than Yanxia and we still go there... for a Dungeon.

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No, that's different. In the Stormblood trailer, they focused on a small area, then zoomed back out and went further east to reveal Hingashi. Here, we're already looking at the entire world map, Ilsabard included.

Also, there's a huge difference in scale between what you're talking about and revealing an entire continent. Firstly, there are landmarks we haven't been to everywhere. Even in Eorzea, we haven't been to the West Shroud or any of the Coerthan Lowlands since 1.0 and most of Eorzean zones have areas between them that we just load through, so there being unvisited locations isn't the issue.

The issue lies in the fact that revealing that areas essentially "locks in" what is where and the landmarks present. Blindfrost, Koshu, and Thavnair are all like a zone worth of area covered, revealing Ilsabard is about an expansion's worth, maybe even more than one given how big it's supposed to be.

Please keep in mind that it took two expansions to see most of Eorzea and the amount of Othard we see is also fairly small (we get to see some of Yanxia and a very tiny sliver of the Azim Steppe, while Nagxia and Dalmasca are completely unexplored outside of a few prominent locales). I don't think the Devs are willing to give up that much worldbuilding real estate just for a completed world map.

Corvos might be visited, as it was the homeland of Zenos' swordmaster, the first person who ever truly challenged Zenos (from the Zenos short story). And since the WoL vs Zenos plotline is taking center stage in Endwalker, it would make sense to visit Corvos and maybe get a little more backstory on the beginnings of the conflict.

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Originally Posted by GoldStarz

No, that's different. In the Stormblood trailer, they focused on a small area, then zoomed back out and went further east to reveal Hingashi. Here, we're already looking at the entire world map, Ilsabard included.

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To be specific, the Stormblood trailer started with the sparring in Rhalgr's Reach in Gyr Abania, then zoomed out to the world map, panned over to the Far East with a dramatic shot of Ilsabard along the way, and then the clouds over the Hingashi portion of the map receded. (The Othard portion was already uncovered, and we also had a dip into the Ruby Sea.)

So it's entirely possible that the additional footage in the completed Endwalker trailer could have the clouds over Ilsabard recede too, revealing the land underneath. It's also possible this doesn't happen, but as of now, we don't know.

Camera focusing in on us fighting somewhere in Thavnair, camera pans down, Tremors style dirt dive tunneling straight down to piping hot oceans of lava and red rock as far as the eye can see...

Camera turns back up, shoots through more dirt, comes out straight in ruined Garlemald :P

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Camera focusing in on us fighting somewhere in Thavnair, camera pans down, Tremors style dirt dive tunneling straight down to piping hot oceans of lava and red rock as far as the eye can see...

Camera turns back up, shoots through more dirt, comes out straight in ruined Garlemald :P

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I am hoping we get at least 2 other areas in Islabard since Orthard got 3 regions. It is possible Dalmascus might be a region since it is on the map now but it might also be saved for its own story. But since this is the the end of the season 1 storyline I would like to see the clouds removed entirely from the map of the three continents so we can have a complete map for future adventures, also more Islabard locations with cultures we have heard about for a while now interests me a lot more then an underground area probably just filled with monsters. We also had that leak of the Garlean Aetheryte and I feel there will be a lot more of those then just one area similar to Orthard having its own Aetherytes.

I'm not expecting to visit any other locations in Ilsabard (except maybe Dark Tu'Lia, which would technically be in Ilsabard, but isn't REALLY what we're talking about here). While it's entirely possible of course, I don't think it's necessary from a narrative perspective. The capitol is close enough to the coast that travel by air or sea from Sharlayan (or an epic base jump from the moon :p) seems sufficient.

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Originally Posted by FrightfulNight

I am hoping we get at least 2 other areas in Islabard since Orthard got 3 regions. It is possible Dalmascus might be a region since it is on the map now but it might also be saved for its own story. But since this is the the end of the season 1 storyline I would like to see the clouds removed entirely from the map of the three continents so we can have a complete map for future adventures, also more Islabard locations with cultures we have heard about for a while now interests me a lot more then an underground area probably just filled with monsters. We also had that leak of the Garlean Aetheryte and I feel there will be a lot more of those then just one area similar to Orthard having its own Aetherytes.

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We got three areas in Othard in an Othard (and Gyr Abania)-focused expansion. This expansion is confirmed by Yoshi-P to be hopping around to major areas we've heard or and are somewhat familiar with. Assuming we don't get more than the usual 6 zones and that Sharlayan does happen with how hard they've been foreshadowing it, that wouldn't leave any more zones left.

I'm hoping for at least two but we'll see.

Assuming 6 zones based on ever other expansion, we have Thavnair, Garlemald and the Moon at the very least.

Depending on how things are split up, we could potentially get like, two moon zones, three ilsabard zones, one thavnair zone etc but we'll have to see. We may not know until May if even then if they want to keep the last zone a secret like in SHB.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

I'm hoping for at least two but we'll see.

Assuming 6 zones based on ever other expansion, we have Thavnair, Garlemald and the Moon at the very least.

Depending on how things are split up, we could potentially get like, two moon zones, three ilsabard zones, one thavnair zone etc but we'll have to see. We may not know until May if even then if they want to keep the last zone a secret like in SHB.

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I think the moon is the last zone, then again I always felt it would be the final mystery zone in 6.0 and it is revealed now. I also think the moon will just be one zone, kind of like the Tempest where the first part is the surface and the second part (the one they keep secret) is the Subterrane with all sorts of otherworldly looks for it just like the Tempest had the basic underwater area then the true secret area Amurot. I personlly hope it is 1 Sharlyan zone on the Island (with the main city being the big city) 3 Islabard zones, 1 Thravnir zone (this was already confirmed the entire island is 1 zone so we may be looking at larger zones as well) and the moon as the final zone with a tempese like split between the surface and Subterrane.