What are the best ways to make gil?

I have heard that treasure hunts are one of the best ways to make gil. What other ways are there? It seems like the game rewards you quite a lot of gil just for playing, but not quite enough to amass enough gil to be in the millions that I heard people are at!

According to the RPers: ERPing apparently.

Moving a house to a plot of land where autoclickers gather and dropping a retainer with a full listing of maple lumber priced at 1 million each.

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Originally Posted by MPK

According to the RPers: ERPing apparently.

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Given the last thread I'm disinclined to engage seeing as discussion of ERP is a big no-no that will get you marked as a troll here.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

Moving a house to a plot of land where autoclickers gather and dropping a retainer with a full listing of maple lumber priced at 1 million each.

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Would you care to explain more? That sounds like botting, and I'm not sure if I want to bot to make gil, but I'm happy to hear an explanation.

Edit: I see; I'm not sure how to do that though, but I'll search!

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Originally Posted by MPK

According to the RPers: ERPing apparently.

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According to an ERPer, that is not the best way to make gil. If you want to make gil in ERP the passion absolutely has to come before the gil signs in your eyes. There are far quicker and easier ways to make gil in FFXIV.

I'd say the best way to make gil in my experience is to become an omnicrafter and try to be as self sufficient as possible, learn to play the market board.

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Originally Posted by SecretIsland

I have heard that treasure hunts are one of the best ways to make gil. What other ways are there? It seems like the game rewards you quite a lot of gil just for playing, but not quite enough to amass enough gil to be in the millions that I heard people are at!

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Treasure maps and the hidden dungeons they award (you will need a party to do the hidden dungeons though)
Run your duty finders daily and roll on everything. Desynth everything you get (you will need to have every crafting discipline to do this though). Sell the results.
Keep your retainers doing quick ventures and sell the results (or again desynth and sell the results) some of the stuff they bring back is worth hundreds of thousands.
Work the market board: Find things that NPCs sell but people for whatever reason buy for higher prices on the marketboard like the unglamour prisms and lots of the low level crafting mats. You can make pretty consistent and decent profits like this.

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Originally Posted by Teppie

According to an ERPer, that is not the best way to make gil. If you want to make gil in ERP the passion absolutely has to come before the gil signs in your eyes. There are far quicker and easier ways to make gil in FFXIV.

I'd say the best way to make gil in my experience is to become an omnicrafter and try to be as self sufficient as possible, learn to play the market board.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Treasure maps and the hidden dungeons they award (you will need a party to do the hidden dungeons though)
Run your duty finders daily and roll on everything. Desynth everything you get (you will need to have every crafting discipline to do this though). Sell the results.
Keep your retainers doing quick ventures and sell the results (or again desynth and sell the results) some of the stuff they bring back is worth hundreds of thousands.
Work the market board: Find things that NPCs sell but people for whatever reason buy for higher prices on the marketboard like the unglamour prisms and lots of the low level crafting mats. You can make pretty consistent and decent profits like this.

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Thank you! Looks like a common theme on both Reddit and here is to craft!

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Originally Posted by SecretIsland

I have heard that treasure hunts are one of the best ways to make gil. What other ways are there? It seems like the game rewards you quite a lot of gil just for playing, but not quite enough to amass enough gil to be in the millions that I heard people are at!

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Selling things to other players is the way to make millions, though it's generally not going to be something that happens overnight.

Crafting and gathering are very solid and consistent ways to make gil but they aren't the only way to get items to sell on the MB. You also have:

Treasure Maps
Items purchased with tomestones and either sold directly on MB (topsoil/crafting materials) or converted to GC seals to buy items that can be sold on the MB (crafting materials and a few other random items)
ShB FATE grinding for bicolor gemstones (crafting materials, housing items)
Retainer ventures (crafting materials from hunting, mining, botany ventures, all sorts of different items from quick ventures)
Lockbox farming in Eureka and Bozja for items that can be sold on the MB (the hairstyles tend to sell for good gil but there are other items to sell as well)
Probably a few other methods I can't think of spur of the moment.

Running Daily Roulettes and if you play multiple Jobs, take advantage of the Adventurer in Need Bonus.
Also do stuff that counts towards the Challenge Log.

Its slow, but if your ot wasting large amounts of gill, it will make you millions over time.
You can make about 100k a day. (Or maybe slightly less, but I swear highend content pays alot)

If you have them golden fingers ERP can net you a lot. I know of one person that makes 500k an hour for their erp. Game has some thirsty and lonely people.

• Gathering (good for when you don't have some serious gil)
• Crafting (requires you to have some serious gil already)
• Treasure Maps (need a party)
• RP'ing and ERP'ing (hosting or attending one but you make more with house rp)
• Farming old content and selling items on MB or Vendor.
• Farming new content and selling items on MB or Vendor.
• Reselling items from beast tribes on MB that are purchased locked behind rep rank.
• Playing music in one of the HUBs (gil trades are rare for this method from my experience)
• Doing some Hunts (solo or with a group)
• Running through all of the Duty Finder all day (slowest and lowest profit earning method)
• Boosting all classes (one time method which will neat you 2 mil gil)
• Being a twitch streamer with a decent viewer count tends to neat you millions of gil on the monthly from random trades

That's about it, So just take your pick at what you prefer.

You can make a surprisingly decent amount of raw gil from doing HQ turn-ins of level 80 leves.

Granted, they're time-gated but a full stack of 100 leves can get you over two million gill in total.

crafting and selling CAN make you money... but its a job.

if you expect easy money, I wouldnt recommend it. to beat the current bot controlled market to sell anything, you have to stand on the market

you can sell niche things, but again, not many buy those so takes patience

No need for gil in this game, OP. All you need is skill!

Crafting works but it's under high competition since almost everyone has a lv80 crafter this expansion with all the accessibility changes. Lots of things sell but very few things sell for high prices unless they're hard to obtain. Still, a consistent market will bring in steady gil, even if not huge sums.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

You can make a surprisingly decent amount of raw gil from doing HQ turn-ins of level 80 leves.

Granted, they're time-gated but a full stack of 100 leves can get you over two million gill in total.

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The most common one is Coffee Biscuits due to the ease of crafting (7 step macro with decent gear) and only 3 material requirement. Keep a botany retainer on duty to stockpile the mats and spam them whenever you want to fill 10-20 minutes spare time and it's a nice earner for easy spare change.

Best ways: Craft/gather the first day a new crafting patch drops when things are the most overpriced.

Crafting works best if you make sure to craft consumables and gear for the endgame upon a patch launch. Because in addition to omincrafters being fairly common now, you also have to compete with bots that craft the latest catch-up craftable gear and food en mass, which means in a month or less the catch-up gear collapses in price tremendously.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

Crafting works best if you make sure to craft consumables and gear for the endgame upon a patch launch. Because in addition to omincrafters being fairly common now, you also have to compete with bots that craft the latest catch-up craftable gear and food en mass, which means in a month or less the catch-up gear collapses in price tremendously.

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We all know how trying to make gil ended up for you.

Easy beginner way to make gil is just supply simple goods to the market board. Most players are too lazy to move around to various NPCs to buy them. Things like tallow, dye or copper ore that is easily available at an NPC in the market area can sell for double at market board easily.

As with everything though, there is risk of it not selling and a lot of “work” watching prices for very little profits. Still, it’s easy gil.

You can also derp through things like fish where people are trying to undercut others...not even realizing their price is lower than what NPCs will pay for it.... so if you ever see that, buy it all up and NPC it!

Your best is really just to play the game and do weekly challenge logs (like, just crafting a number of items is an easy 1k every week)

One word. BOT

I'm hearing a lot of mentions of bots, and to be clear I have no intention of botting, so that option is out.

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Originally Posted by SecretIsland

I'm hearing a lot of mentions of bots, and to be clear I have no intention of botting, so that option is out.

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Bots have put a dent in the crafting market but it hasn't killed it unlike what some will claim. A bigger dent has come from more players able to craft now. Prices for many items are lower than their equivalents in past expansions but there's still plenty of room for profit.

One secret to making gil is not spending what you've already earned unless you have to. Ask yourself what you're spending your gil on and if there are other options for less or no gil.

Been paying teleport fees? Buy Aetheryte tickets with Allied or Centurio Seals instead.

Buying materia off the MB? Buy it with the clusters you get from level 80 dungeons and hunts instead (you'll occasionally get the materia itself from the level 80 dungeons).

Repairs are cheaper if you've leveled the right crafting classes and a single leveled crafting class lets you do your own melding (though I wouldn't recommend leveling crafting just for repairs and melding).

The amounts you spend on those things may not seem like much individually but they do add up over time.

Once you stop spending it unnecessarily, the amount of gil you have will increase. You might want to start thinking about what you've been spending your gil on and find ways to get what you need through other methods.

Eureka
coffee biscuit leve
Ishgard restoration
maps

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

- gathering and sell is the common way
- crafting should give you better but need more investment i guess
- play buy low sell high from market board is also a thing but you really need to stare the market board every minute or so

- the easiest for me is just go duty finder and look whats the "adventurer in need" (mostly tank) and go play as that, it give you instant queue, extra gil, need/greed all the drop and sell them off. its small sum compare to others but since iam not into gathering/crafting, its the only way for me

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Originally Posted by gumas

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If you plan doing this buy from one server and sell in another. Cuz that crafter you bought from will probably just post up more items at the same price.

Coffee Biscuits

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Originally Posted by Xoto

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

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And yet I still make several million a week crafting items for sale. I even run across your listings occasionally.

If it's dead as you say, why are you bothering? Or are you really trying to discourage competition?

My advice is perfectly sound even if you're bitter that some things don't sell for as much as they used to.

While I’m not sure that I’d recommend crafting as a lucrative plan for a new player, if you already have the levels or want to level crafting for the cheap repairs, it can be profitable.

I can often just straight up buy the components for things like housing items or whatever, craft two and sell one back to cover the all my costs. I’m sure with effort you could find commonly used housing goods, etc and make a decent chunk..especially w/ Ishgard housing incoming.

I feel like it's more productive to pursue niche markets over the mainstream ones that are being exploited by bots.

It might not sell as quickly, but you can push higher prices and worry less about undercutting if there's not as much competition around.

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Originally Posted by Xoto

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

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No, they're definitely right.

Crafting is ridiculously easy this expansion. Recipe difficulty was reduced, the toolkit was simplified, materials are easier to obtain, EXP was practically tripled and Ishgard added an easy way to spam collectibles for that exp. As a result, a large number of players who previously had no interest in crafting have a maxed DoH now (even if they still don't particularly enjoy crafting). So competition on the markets has skyrocketed while at the same time most players are self-sufficient so demand for crafted items has dropped.

That doesn't mean bots aren't an issue. They exist and are a problem, but they aren't the entire reason. The changes to crafting has also indirectly made botting far more viable due to easily leveled and geared crafters, easy to bot mats, easy crafts and cross world markets. It's a far more simple matter now to obtain a maxed DoH and jump straight into mass botting.

Quick and honest opinion on making money with crafting.

Currently the RMT's seem to be in their test phase with market botting. Turns out it works. . . and they make alot more than several million a week.
Their actions have gone unpunished and more RMT's (and even players) have began running the same third party program.

It's a bit doom and gloomish but if SE doesnt do anything about it then we can only expect the problem to get worse.

I fully expect that every item on the market board will eventually be covered by these bot RMT's.

*Side note* My main has been crafter/gatherer for 8 years. If ya wanna take advice from people that barely do it... knock yourself out.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

No, they're definitely right.

Crafting is ridiculously easy this expansion. Recipe difficulty was reduced, the toolkit was simplified, materials are easier to obtain, EXP was practically tripled and Ishgard added an easy way to spam collectibles for that exp. As a result, a large number of players who previously had no interest in crafting have a maxed DoH now (even if they still don't particularly enjoy crafting). So competition on the markets has skyrocketed while at the same time most players are self-sufficient so demand for crafted items has dropped.

That doesn't mean bots aren't an issue. They exist and are a problem, but they aren't the entire reason. The changes to crafting has also indirectly made botting far more viable due to easily leveled and geared crafters, easy to bot mats, easy crafts and cross world markets. It's a far more simple matter now to obtain a maxed DoH and jump straight into mass botting.

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I laugh at all these crafters who have for years dominated and cornered markets suddenly crying when said markets are opened up to more people to participate in and prices drop to reasonable levels.

For me it’s been crafting. I’ll find a particular item, craft 20 of it and take over that particular section of the market, then repeat for each retainer.

Coffee biscuits. Nice, easy, reliable, stress-free.

I haven't done much by way of crafting, but gathering + selling materials from the Diadem during Ishgardian restoration rankings, I made something like 30+ million gil (starting from 1.5 million, minus costs for gear needed to gather).
Still trying to clear the materials out of my inventory by selling, which can net me anywhere from 100k to 500k per day. Things don't sell at quite as high a price or as frequently as they did during rankings, but it's still a fairly reliable source of income!

Basically, people will pay for convenience, and I've made far more from selling raw materials and fairly basic things like thread in bulk than I have off of any mid-level crafts. Haven't maxed any crafters, so I can't really speak for those.

Also, my retainers seem to enjoy bringing me back some fairly expensive glams and furniture pieces from quick ventures, so I either don't need to pay for them myself OR I can sell them off for a nice price. There have been times where I don't have time to play, but I'll just log in real quick to refresh my retainers' ventures, lol

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Originally Posted by Xoto

I fully expect that every item on the market board will eventually be covered by these bot RMT's.

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They've started putting together treasure map farming parties now, so that expectation seems pretty reasonable.

I've only noticed one of them on Aether DC, but when you have them going at it literally 24/7 it's bound to start tanking prices sooner then later.

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Originally Posted by Xoto

Gonna have to disagree with Jojoya. Besides the obvious pretentiousness radiating from his comment. Crafting is dead, the market board bots killed it. Ya can make some gil at it but your efforts will be for naught as there are more and more bots springing up on the board.

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Going to loosely agree with this, emphasizing the frustration of bots. Been trying to sell some items for a week now, just to have things undercut within minutes of relisting every single time not matter what time of day from 5+ different sellers. Though, humorously, I have been deliberately lowering some of the markets to the benefit of other buyers because at this point I'm just being fueled by spite.

This isn't to say there aren't items worth crafting or gathering, but becoming a multi-gillionaire overnight is highly unlikely.