An idea for a simple glamour item that would be a GAMECHANGER

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This would be very easy to implement as we've seen it done in part with the Quitana Ravel gloves for Healers and Casters. What do you guys think?

This is a really good idea and would be a great addition for basic glamor pieces. “Sleeve replacement” pieces are super popular for a reason.

I think that is an awful idea. This game takes long enough to load on my Apple iBook as it is.

I don't really glamour that much but I just wanted to say I really liked the effort you put into that image! Pretty :)

I imagine someone will find that item very helpful, if it's something the game can handle (such that it doesn't require loads and loads of item modifications, like Hroth and Viera hat and hair issues).

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Originally Posted by grimgamer09

I think that is an awful idea. This game takes long enough to load on my Apple iBook as it is.

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no no! This would make things easier on your poor Apple. Less CPU spent on rendering huge sleeves!

I'm not opposed to more options, but I don't see how this is a "game changer", since certain combos allow for disappearing sleeves already. The idea isn't bad by any means though, don't misunderstand.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm not opposed to more options, but I don't see how this is a "game changer", since certain combos allow for disappearing sleeves already. The idea isn't bad by any means though, don't misunderstand.

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Yeah, its mostly just a silly title. However, I've been wanting an item like this for a long time; one without the tribal paint and gloves of the Quitana Ravel set (which only Casters and Healers can use.) I think it grants a lot of options for cool glamours for how simple it would be to make.

I want SO many options for sleeve-altering pieces.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm not opposed to more options, but I don't see how this is a "game changer", since certain combos allow for disappearing sleeves already. The idea isn't bad by any means though, don't misunderstand.

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"Certain combos" is the thing right now. If you're class X at level Y, you get one item that gives you a single asymmetric short sleeve effect, or the long flared sleeves of the Torrent set, or the short sleeves and gloves of the Ravel mages.

What they really need to do is take that kind of idea and make them into level 1 glamours that are accessible to everyone for any class.

The easiest way would be to incorporate hand gear into all their one-per-patch fashion glamours that usually just come with shirt, shoes and maybe pants. Add a handgear item to each of those that gives a different sleeve effect. They could even recycle models if they wanted - the Dalmascan set could have a version of the Ravel gloves; the Boulevardier set could have neat cuffs (adapted from the right half of the Eikon Leather armguards) to rein in those frilly sleeves on the shirt.

I want to have long draping sleeves like the Lv60 summoner set; gathered sleeves like the Eden's Promise mages; short sleeves with different styles of gloves attached; short puffy sleeves; long close-fitting sleeves like Lv80 dancer or the Makai Moon Guide mixing tight sleeves with short halfgloves over the top.

Being able to put a free choice of sleeves onto any chest piece would be excellent.

I'm here to say I am also sick of gloves being some of the most underutilized glamour pieces in this game. So many tops have crazy sleeves (some not even attached to the body!) that could be relegated to the hands slot.

The sleeve remover items are pretty much a huge reason why I like playing caster jobs.

So many items look better without the sleeves and it lets me come up with more interesting glams with tops that are normally pretty hard to work with

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm not opposed to more options, but I don't see how this is a "game changer", since certain combos allow for disappearing sleeves already. The idea isn't bad by any means though, don't misunderstand.

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As far as I'm aware, the only items that remove sleeves are the caster gloves from Qitana Ravel and the PvP gloves you can buy with wolf marks.

There's also a ranged dps glove that removes a sleeve but that doesn't really count in this case.

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Originally Posted by Dogempire

As far as I'm aware, the only items that remove sleeves are the caster gloves from Qitana Ravel and the PvP gloves you can buy with wolf marks.

There's also a ranged dps glove that removes a sleeve but that doesn't really count in this case.

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There's also the healer gloves from Qitana Ravel, the level 80 AST gloves (though they add some sort of vambraces and other bits), and the Eikon Leather Armguards of Casting/Maiming/Striking give an asymmetrical sleeve removal.

Just to be clear, these are essentially Glove pieces that model as plain dyeable sleeves, right?

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Originally Posted by Dogempire

As far as I'm aware, the only items that remove sleeves are the caster gloves from Qitana Ravel and the PvP gloves you can buy with wolf marks.

There's also a ranged dps glove that removes a sleeve but that doesn't really count in this case.

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There are many gloves that remove a smaller portion of the sleeves as well.
Also, on the Rathalos chest piece, the pauldrons are coded as part of the sleeve, so some gloves actually remove the pauldrons, despite being nowhere near them.

You sure you don't want some awkward tattoos all over those arms???

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Just to be clear, these are essentially Glove pieces that model as plain dyeable sleeves, right?

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Yes, there are two items being proposed here. The first is a "Bangle" glove slot item that cuts the sleeve just below the shoulder, allowing the arm below it to be bare. The second is a series of "Bangled Sleeves" where the bangles themselves are undyable but the sleeves attached to them are.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

There's also the healer gloves from Qitana Ravel, the level 80 AST gloves (though they add some sort of vambraces and other bits), and the Eikon Leather Armguards of Casting/Maiming/Striking give an asymmetrical sleeve removal.

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So basically only magic classes get items that remove sleeves barring the ugly half sleeve removals.

I'd happily go to hell and back for an item that removes both sleeves that isn't for a caster or healer class

while I am never against more glam items, I doubt my stuffed glam chest will fit more items, so... without more plates or space.. pass

I would be all for more customization in this sort of thing. There are some cases where things have been programmed to appear/disappear/crop themselves as decided by SE and I don't always find their choices to be the best ones, or even the logical ones. I'd imagine that's just due to them having thousands of gear combinations to test so they just go with what they feel works/looks best in a few common configurations.

This sort of thing could also work to fix the clipping issues they seem terrified of in some cases and ignorant of in others. Just leave the option to the player and let them decide if they're okay with things clipping or not.

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

I would be all for more customization in this sort of thing. There are some cases where things have been programmed to appear/disappear/crop themselves as decided by SE and I don't always find their choices to be the best ones, or even the logical ones. I'd imagine that's just due to them having thousands of gear combinations to test so they just go with what they feel works/looks best in a few common configurations.

This sort of thing could also work to fix the clipping issues they seem terrified of in some cases and ignorant of in others. Just leave the option to the player and let them decide if they're okay with things clipping or not.

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You say this but we already have items in the game that do this. They are just locked to casters and healers. What OP is asking for is an option that is unlocked from those roles (and some other options that are also not unique to the request and exist in game already).