So I have been playing for a little bit and have done most forms of content with many many people and I have yet to locate all these weebs that are supposed to be in FF14.
Outside of the FF14 community (namely WoW) this MMO is labeled a weeb game because Japanese people mean weebs?!?!? Is there some place I have missed in this MMO where there are a bunch of weebs just going at it?
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09-05-2020, 05:38 AMPuremallaceAnyone locate all these weebs that are supposed to be in this MMO?
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09-05-2020, 05:41 AMStriderShinryu
The term weeb has largely lost any meaning it once had such that it's now basically just used an an insult against people who like anything made in Japan, or just made in the style of something from Japan. So, yeah, based on what a "weeb" is these days and given that FF14 is made in Japan, most people who play FF14 are weebs.
Dumb as heck? Yep, but that's the logic some people operate on. -
09-05-2020, 06:00 AMSweetestLily
Weeb =We Enjoy Eastern Beauty as my friends say. :)
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09-05-2020, 06:05 AMEdax
I'm a weeb. I'm also a francophile. Can't really choose the country you grow up in but you can embrace other cultures.
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09-05-2020, 06:12 AMEien713
I truly believe people call FF14 a weeb game because it's aesthetically pleasing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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09-05-2020, 06:15 AMCyreil
I guess it depends on your definition of weeb and the kind of people you hear these things from.
But I can just as easily turn around and say that people are weird for not liking weeb stuff and for playing a no-life cartoon mmo. -
09-05-2020, 06:24 AMEirolOcarrol
Weeb or weeaboo started off a slur and always has meant to be that way. It's not a slur against people born a certain way like race or ethnicity or sex or gender. But it fits the definition of a slur.
Or a disparagement or pejorative, if you prefer.
Merriam-Webster:
It's never meant to make logical sense or have one true definition. It's used against people who have an interest in or appreciation for Japanese culture that another person doesn't. It's not logical, and is meant to be hostile and disparaging and unfair. A lot of people have reclaimed the word to use for themselves as a positive, taking the negative weight away from the term. But people still use it as a negative, and there's no real rhyme or reason to it. And it all depends on their own personal taste with what makes something this 'bad word'.Quote:
Definition of slur (Entry 1 of 4)
1a: an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo : ASPERSION
b: a shaming or degrading effect : STAIN, STIGMA
Final Fantasy is a Japanese video game series made by Japanese video game developers. With Japanese cultural influence and tropes. Cute races. A Samurai and Ninja class. And a location reminiscent of Feudal Japan. That is more than enough for many people who are put Japanese or even East Asian culture.
If the term had existed back when Space Invaders were first released, or the Nintendo Entertainment System. One can be certain that those fearmongering that Japanese or "Oriental" media, industry, and culture were "invading" America would have called Space Invaders or Nintendo players weeaboos. As the same mindset that caused news and media publications to fearmonger about Space Invaders really being 'Japanese Invaders' is the same mindset that lets people disparage anyone who likes something Japanese or Asian seeming that they don't as "weebs" or "weeaboos".
The reason the World of Warcraft community does this is to disparage it because it's nativism in favor of a Western developer against a Japanese developer. This same debate has been going on for a long time between Western and Japanese RPGs. A lot of gamers and publications were especially hostile towards Japanese RPGs when Final Fantasy XIII released, garnered a lot of criticism for its linearity, and Western RPGs were on the rise. And took a mainstream position previously held by Japanese Role Playing Games, Final Fantasy being most well known in the West. The RPG culture war was at its peak during that time, but never entirely went away.
Fans of very Western video games have always had a somewhat antagonist relationship with Japanese video games. And this goes back even to the days of Atari. Space Invaders still means "Japanese Invaders" to many people, the games and genres simply changed.
On a different note. While gamers often like to tout that what really matters is gameplay. They care a lot about aesthetic and general interactive experience. Final Fantasy XIV is a rival to World of Warcraft, but they are two very different looking games with very different aesthetic sensibilities. World of Warcraft is grittier and cartoonier. Fitting an aesthetic more common in Western development. There isn't a lot of cute or pretty there. While Final Fantasy XIV fits more closely with Japanese pop aesthetics. What a lot of these people are saying is that they highly value the Western aesthetics of Western video games and don't relate to East Asian pop aesthetics. And are doing it a way to be insulting and dismissive. And are being especially harsh because of a sense or rivalry. People underestimate how much gamers care about aesthetics. And gamers themselves may not be entirely honest with how much aesthetics matter in comparison to gameplay.
For some people, a game will never appeal to them if it is made by Japanese people. Or in some case, even Asian people. While for others, it is as long as the game looks Eastern or makes people with Eastern aesthetic sensibilities happy, they'll be disinterested in it, or even against it existing. -
09-05-2020, 06:47 AMGothicsharkThe people calling us Weebs are also the ones watching DBZ/DBZ Kai, yet if you like a deeper meaningful anime ie Wandering Son, you're a weeb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
Only they pick and choose what is Weeb qualifying. DBZ isn't Weeb, but an intense dramatic Anime which makes you think, Weeb.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderShinryu
I've been called a weeb for almost 25 years now. I was about 25 the first time I was called it. Yes, I like good Anime and Manga. Yes, I like Japanese culture, to a degree. This is why I got called a weeb.Quote:
Originally Posted by EirolOcarrol
The Funniest one was when this guy wearing a DBZ Hawaiian shirt called me a weeb for liking 'Wandering Son'. Like Really dude, your profile picture has you in anime merch. I personally have never purchased anime shirts, or clothing, although I've been tempted a few times with some of the more gothic stuff. I do however have a collection of Gaming Tee shirts, but any self-respecting Gamer does. -
09-05-2020, 06:51 AMPuremallaceI mean if you look around I fully expect to see some dark corner of Limsa where people are endlessly shouting Ayayaya for 24 hours a day. Pretty much everyone in the comment section seems to understand but you know it never hurts to check incase I missed this secret content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyreil
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09-05-2020, 06:58 AMPenthea
I've been called a weeb because all of my smart phones have been Sony. I don't like Sony phones because the brand is Japanese, I like them because they work really well and their case design is less bulky than some other brands. If anything it would make more "sense" for me to choose Samsung because I love kpop far more than jpop. But because I watch anime on occasion "lul you have a Sony phone you're such a weeb".
I instantly look down on people who call others "weebs". Imagine thinking that someone loving something entirely harmless is a good excuse to laugh at them. I honestly think it's just a projection of their own insecurities about liking things from a culture that isn't their own, and how they deal with it is by placing negative attention on others.
And some of these people even put every eastern Asian thing in the Japanese basket. I've literally been asked if I want to be Japanese because I listen to kpop...which is Korean music.
As for finding "weebs" in this game, I honestly haven't found anymore than I had in WoW. EU servers in both cases. No idea if it's different in NA. -
09-05-2020, 07:07 AMGothicsharkWe have a Moogle doing the Sundrop Dance. It's kind of a fun thing to watch when bored in Lominsa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puremallace
not of our Moogle player, and a bit spoilerish, but it's the dance.
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09-05-2020, 07:09 AMLittleImp
Join almost any discord community for this game and tell me what you see when you look down the list of names ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
My SO makes a killing selling anime-style commissions and dakimakuras in the FF community, so I can't really complain lmao. -
09-05-2020, 07:23 AMGothicsharkMy user name is Either my Character Name "Mary Jigoku" or "GothicShark" and the avatar is this picture:Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleImp
https://i.imgur.com/P1OBiYi.png
I guessI'm a Weeb for naming an Au Ra with a Japanese word for a surname. BTW Jigoku means Hell. aka her name is Mary Hell. My other main, the one seen here is Marielle. which can be pronounced Mary Hell. :P But yes I guess that makes me a weeb, and a 50yo with a bad case of Chunibyo. -
09-05-2020, 11:59 PMGameovers
It's just a dumb insult that has no bases. It's like calling a nerd a geek, like really? I don't know I never seem to understand the whole "weeb" thing when it came to this game. A poster on the first page of this topic explains it so well that I feel like thats the actual answer and the thread is done. What more could you add after her post?
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09-06-2020, 05:37 AMFawkes
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09-06-2020, 07:03 AMBurmecia
Crap, forgot to add "UwU" to my search info.
Gonna fix that asap. Ain't no one making mistake of thinking I am not weeb anymore after that.
But seriously-er. Japanese media is precious, and I generally prefer JP games and animated TV entertainment. But I am also adult person, trying to keep up appearance of normally functioning person. Easiest way to achieve that is by putting my best kuudere mojo on, shutting up and hiding my terrible fujo tendencies outside internet.
The usual stuff. -
09-06-2020, 05:16 PMZanarkand-Ronso
Its a Japanese game, it has cat girls in it....so those who haven't played the game will easily just generalize it as a game for weebs.
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09-06-2020, 05:42 PMVyrerus
Outside of JP names, actual weeb tendencies are pretty low in game. Probably due to XIV's high ex-WoW population. It's nothing like the weeb world that was FFXI. People saying, "W." for K and stuff. People trying to act like they are Japanese when they aren't etc.
For me, Weeb was always one of those terms I never took very seriously. Me and my brother used to joke that we're self hating weebs, and relish those internet jokes about it. Like that one that goes something like, "So I was in a manga store the other day, just getting some pocky while window shopping through the new volumes, when this fuckin' weeb came up to me, asking me about a manga I like."
To me a weeb is somebody who builds their entire identity around Japanese culture, while not actually being Japanese. Like, they watch anime subbed, and pick up a few JP words here and there, but never bother to learn the language, but then turn around and act like they know it intimately with all its connotations and such. Lord around like they're the only gaijin that truly understand Japan and its culture. Pretty rare these days, honestly, but it was pretty run of the mill in FFXI back in the early 2000s. -
09-06-2020, 06:22 PMAleytia
You know if these wow players want to keep calling us weebs that's fine. At least our game isn't full of furries like thiers. I mean we have rothgar yeah but they have worgen, tauren,foxes, and let's not forget druids who can turn into like six different animals. Also lions pride inn on moongaurd. I'll take our catgirls, dragon lolis, and sentient veggies over furry force any day.
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09-07-2020, 01:47 AMGameoversAnd we all look miles better too. Like... a million times better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleytia