Dwarf Beast Tribe NEED to be open to Disciples of Land as well

It's incredibly unfair that DOL are locked out of content when there's no good reason for it in the first place, especially in 2020 when the game is making more of an effort to include people. The Namazu beast tribe was open to both DOH and DOL, meaning everybody got to join in and have fun. DOL have a right to enjoy the content too and enjoy the rewards like the tank mount. Leveling crafters is prohibitively expensive and a massive gil sink, don't punish players that would rather gather to save money instead.

All the time I spent leveling my FSH has gone to waste now because they can't just let gatherers do their thing.

Have you done the Qitari tribe quests? DoL haven't been shut out, just assigned to a separate tribe to the DoH quests.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Have you done the Qitari tribe quests? DoL haven't been shut out, just assigned to a separate tribe to the DoH quests.

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That is shutting out DoL out. If we can't access this new content because we're not crafters, that's shutting us out.

This type of separation doesn't need to exist anymore. Not everybody wants to grind two separate lines of beast tribe quests JUST to access content. I assumed the Namazu beast tribe was a step in the right direction for including more players, but I was evidently wrong. There's no reason why the team can't add in a gather option for the Dwarf beast tribes. Leveling DoH is time consuming (and a waste of time in my case because I have no interest crafting for gil), especially when I already leveled a DoL class up in preparation.

Crafters should also be allowed to access Qitari content and so fourth.

While we're at it, open them up to DoW/DoM jobs too, I want to make ale barrels as a monk.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

While we're at it, open them up to DoW/DoM jobs too, I want to make ale barrels as a monk.

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I've been thinking that's a good idea too actually. Beast tribes should have quests for all classes and would be a great way to help players level DoW/DoM, DoH/DoL etc. Many players forgo these beast tribes because they simply have no interest in doing DoH/DoL classes.

Everybody should be included and have a chance at getting new mounts, emotes etc.

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Originally Posted by SolisClarah

That is shutting out DoL out. If we can't access this new content because we're not crafters, that's shutting us out.

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You have a strange idea of "shutting out" a role if "giving them their own exclusive beast tribe" is shutting them out.

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This type of separation doesn't need to exist anymore. Not everybody wants to grind two separate lines of beast tribe quests JUST to access content.

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Regardless of which roles the beast tribes are open to, they are still optional content and you do not need to do them unless you want to access the anticipated allied tribe quests later. As far as whose beast tribe content has been scaled back this expansion, it's the DoW/Ms, who for the first time have only a single beast tribe. Giving DoL and DoH two separate beast tribes is a generosity to those roles, as players can now use three daily allowances each on crafters and gatherers, instead of having to choose one role to spend three allowances on.

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Leveling DoH is time consuming (and a waste of time in my case because I have no interest crafting for gil), especially when I already leveled a DoL class up in preparation.

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"I have no interest in playing the role that the content is intended for" is not ipso facto an argument that the content needs adjusting.

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Originally Posted by SolisClarah

Not everybody wants to grind two separate lines of beast tribe quests JUST to access content.

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Well, they're gonna have to anyways if they want to access the allied beast tribe quest line when that comes out, just like always. If you've got FSH all leveled up, just pick up CUL and cook your way to victory. (And remember, crafters have beast tribe content going all the way back to ARR; gatherers only got any in SB. It's only expensive to level if you let it be.)

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Many players forgo these beast tribes because they simply have no interest in doing DoH/DoL classes.

Everybody should be included and have a chance at getting new mounts, emotes etc.

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No thanks. Combat classes already have an ass ton of "mounts, emotes, etc" that only they can earn; let the non-combats have these few, for Pete's sake. It won't kill you.

PvP also has a small handful of stuff that only PvPers can earn; they similarly should not just let everyone earn it through PvM or whatever just because there's people that adamantly refuse to step foot in PvP.

You want the stuff, you do the content. If that means you need to level/gear up something new, then you do that too. Don't feel like it? Then you don't deserve the reward. Simple as that.

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Originally Posted by SolisClarah

It's incredibly unfair that DOL are locked out of content when there's no good reason for it in the first place, especially in 2020 when the game is making more of an effort to include people. The Namazu beast tribe was open to both DOH and DOL, meaning everybody got to join in and have fun. DOL have a right to enjoy the content too and enjoy the rewards like the tank mount. Leveling crafters is prohibitively expensive and a massive gil sink, don't punish players that would rather gather to save money instead.

All the time I spent leveling my FSH has gone to waste now because they can't just let gatherers do their thing.

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No lol being able to do dwarf beast tribe quests is a status symbol on a populated server so pls actually work for it

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

While we're at it, open them up to DoW/DoM jobs too, I want to make ale barrels as a monk.

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I tried going for Extreme Trials several times as Armorer - my static shunned me my choice of preferred job.

All combat involving activities, including MSQ should be doable as any job, including crafters and gatherers.

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

I tried going for Extreme Trials several times as Armorer - my static shunned me my choice of preferred job.

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Should have gone for culinarian - that frypan is definitely going to hurt.

You’re not locked out of anything. Just level up a DoH and you’ll have access to the content. It’s just that simple.

... When your thread is so bad a troll, even Raging Stallion says "No lol" and refuses to support it.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Should have gone for culinarian - that frypan is definitely going to hurt.

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Originally Posted by SolisClarah

It's incredibly unfair that DOL are locked out of content when there's no good reason for it in the first place, especially in 2020 when the game is making more of an effort to include people. The Namazu beast tribe was open to both DOH and DOL, meaning everybody got to join in and have fun. DOL have a right to enjoy the content too and enjoy the rewards like the tank mount. Leveling crafters is prohibitively expensive and a massive gil sink, don't punish players that would rather gather to save money instead.

All the time I spent leveling my FSH has gone to waste now because they can't just let gatherers do their thing.

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So is it similarly unfair that DoH are locked out of the Qitari quests?

Neither is unfair. If you want to do the dwarves, level a crafter. I got my CRP to level 70 in like a week and a half in preparation for the dwarf quests.

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Originally Posted by SolisClarah

It's incredibly unfair that DOL are locked out of content when there's no good reason for it in the first place, especially in 2020 when the game is making more of an effort to include people. The Namazu beast tribe was open to both DOH and DOL, meaning everybody got to join in and have fun. DOL have a right to enjoy the content too and enjoy the rewards like the tank mount. Leveling crafters is prohibitively expensive and a massive gil sink, don't punish players that would rather gather to save money instead.

All the time I spent leveling my FSH has gone to waste now because they can't just let gatherers do their thing.

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Leveling crafters is not expensive at all. It is very cheap - if you do all the gathering yourself. You don't have anything against gathering I presume?

That is the worst bait ever...xD

Next he complains about fighting jobs not able to do anything in ishgard.

... Go level a crafter. Same way you can't access the Tank role story if you don't level a tank.. you cannot access crafter content without a crafter. You have so many to choose from.

You have the same opportunity (some would say even more so than in the past) to level the same jobs.

Ironically, gatherers are LESS cost intensive to level than crafters. Miner and botanist are pretty pain free to level as long as you go the patience.

But yeah, nice bait thread.

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So is it similarly unfair that DoH are locked out of the Qitari quests?

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According to OP, yes. Look at post #3.

While we're at it my gunbreaker should be able to dual wield white mage staff and backflip off the boss platform. All this exclusivity is killing me!

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Originally Posted by Frosthaven

While we're at it my gunbreaker should be able to dual wield white mage staff and backflip off the boss platform. All this exclusivity is killing me!

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As opposed to backflipping off the boss platform killing you?

This topic makes my brain hurt. if you dont have a crafter leveled you can get a crafter from 1 to 80 in about 30 minutes and 400k gil (depending on marketboard). 400k gil isnt even a lot anymore. I did this with about 70 leves

The Dwarf Beast tribe should have unlocked a new Brewmaster DoH job so we could all get access to that dwarven XXXX grade alcohol... >.>

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Originally Posted by Frosthaven

While we're at it my gunbreaker should be able to dual wield white mage staff and backflip off the boss platform. All this exclusivity is killing me!

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I backflipped off a boss platform once. I wouldn’t recommend it.

You don't even need to get to 80. You can do the quests at 70.

Just level a crafter... its stupidlyveasy now. Also, da fuck levels a gather but doesnt touch crafter at all?

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Originally Posted by AduroT

I backflipped off a boss platform once. I wouldn’t recommend it.

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You can't lose health if you have no health to lose.

No, they already have the Qitari Quests.


"Leveling crafters is prohibitively expensive and a massive gil sink"
False



"don't punish players that would rather gather to save money instead"
How? Please explain



"All the time I spent leveling my FSH has gone to waste now because they can't just let gatherers do their thing"
How? Please explain

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Originally Posted by SolisClarah

That is shutting out DoL out. If we can't access this new content because we're not crafters, that's shutting us out.

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By that logic they shouldn't be for DoL but DoW/M. After all, every has at least one leveled, but not everyone has a crafter or a gatherer leveled.

Oh and an that note, why can't we craft as DoM/W? why do we have to level a separate class to craft those shiny endgame stuff? /s

Uh, what

DoL got a beast tribe first. Now DoH are getting a beast tribe.

Combat beast tribes shut them both out. I'm just happy that gathering actually got their own beast tribe this time.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

By that logic they shouldn't be for DoL but DoW/M. After all, every has at least one leveled, but not everyone has a crafter or a gatherer leveled.

Oh and an that note, why can't we craft as DoM/W? why do we have to level a separate class to craft those shiny endgame stuff? /s

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I can craft as a DoW/DoM!

I mean, I mostly just craft corpses, but that counts.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Should have gone for culinarian - that frypan is definitely going to hurt.

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I mean, CRP has a literal chainsaw gunblade now...