Suggestion - World Visit in Kugane?

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08-02-2020, 12:08 AM
WindyGamer

Suggestion - World Visit in Kugane?

Did I miss the Suggestion box?

How about world visit in Kugane?
Oh. Didn't check. But Crystarium too, right?
Obvious, right?
Thanks for listening.
08-02-2020, 12:22 AM
LaylaTsarra

Would be nice if other major hubs allowed it.
08-02-2020, 01:23 AM
Doozer

I mean, can't you just, like, go there after visiting one of the starting city states? You can still teleport, can't you?
08-02-2020, 01:38 AM
Brightamethyst

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Originally Posted by Doozer

I mean, can't you just, like, go there after visiting one of the starting city states?

That might not be the point. One of the biggest reasons people server hop is to buy things, and Kugane has the market board right near the main aetherite. Most world travelers use Limsa right now for that exact reason.
08-02-2020, 01:42 AM
Doozer

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

That might not be the point. One of the biggest reasons people server hop is to buy things, and Kugane has the market board right near the main aetherite. Most world travelers use Limsa right now for that exact reason.

So if there's already an option for quick shopping, why add another one? Especially since Limsa's aetheryte is closer to the market board than Kugane's. If that's the only reason to add it, it's not a very good one.
08-02-2020, 02:05 AM
Theodric

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Originally Posted by Doozer

I mean, can't you just, like, go there after visiting one of the starting city states? You can still teleport, can't you?

The game doesn't exactly shy away from adding various quality of life changes. Of which this suggestion would be one - and a sensible followup to what is already in place. I believe the development team already expressed a desire to expand the amount of aetherytes that are tied to the world visit system too. It also has the benefit of encouraging players to spread out more across the various in-game cities.
08-02-2020, 03:36 AM
Edax

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Originally Posted by WindyGamer

Did I miss the Suggestion box?

How about world visit in Kugane?
Oh. Didn't check. But Crystarium too, right?
Obvious, right?
Thanks for listening.

Keep the bots out of my precious Kugane.
08-02-2020, 04:59 AM
Roda

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Originally Posted by Edax

Keep the bots out of my precious Kugane.

The bots would have to buy the expansions first.
08-02-2020, 06:03 AM
Corrie

I dont see a reason why not, having to not teleport and using the aetherite of the city youre in is always nice
08-02-2020, 05:31 PM
Kurando

Just wait for all the weeb players to set up in Kugane when this happens. Nah but in all seriousness it would be nice though, I would at least expect it to be expanded to include Ishgard at some point seeing as that's going to be part of the Trial Edition, hence more players having access to HW areas.
08-03-2020, 12:36 AM
Limonia

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Originally Posted by Roda

The bots would have to buy the expansions first.

The crafting bots already have them though.
08-03-2020, 02:23 AM
TheMightyMollusk

At the least it might relieve some of the congestion in Limsa if there were more options.
08-03-2020, 02:32 AM
Kuroka

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Originally Posted by Doozer

I mean, can't you just, like, go there after visiting one of the starting city states? You can still teleport, can't you?

Yes but it puts unnecessary traffic to the main cities... and more "work" to the whole system as you always gonna need at least 4 teleports...
08-03-2020, 02:34 AM
Doozer

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Yes but it puts unnecessary traffic to the main cities... and more "work" to the whole system as you always gonna need at least 4 teleports...

There was already unnecessary traffic to main cities before the world visit feature was added. And I doubt a couple teleports is really going to bring down their servers.
08-03-2020, 09:04 AM
Jojoya

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

At the least it might relieve some of the congestion in Limsa if there were more options.

I doubt it would change anything. The MBs being right next to the Limsa Aetheryte is too convenient for those using world visit to check MBs. I can use the Aethernet to get to the MB in Ul'dah just as fast as using the Aethernet to get to the Kugane MB, and both are slightly faster than sprinting across the bridge in Kugane (may be different for someone with exceptionally long load times when using the Aethernet in those cities).

Still, you're looking at 4-5 seconds each way in Limsa versus 14-15 seconds each way in Ul'dah or Kugane. If people were inclined to use a different city state for MB access, they already would be. The starter city states also house all the GCs, making it more convenient to use them for world visit since the player probably already has at least one of them set as a free/favored/Return destination.

If you really want to reduce congestion in Limsa, get the players who hang out there doing nothing to find a new spot. They were causing congestion in Limsa before world visit was added.
08-04-2020, 02:18 AM
DaBigDorf

Don't forget Ishgard
08-04-2020, 02:40 AM
Gula

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Originally Posted by DaBigDorf

Don't forget Ishgard

With the firmament, I'm often popping around trying to find mats so the process is usually me going from the Firmament>Jeweled to check prices>Limsa>Other world>Home world>Ishgard>Firmament. This would most likely become Firmament>Jeweled to check prices>Aetheryte>Other world Jeweled>Aetheryte back home>Firmament. Still lots of bamfing around, but just 1 less.

Would be absolutely great to have a MB over where we found the flyer in the first place because the best thing about Limsa is that the MB is right there no matter where you spawn. And on PS4, you're going to be in black purgatory regardless but Limsa makes it hurt a lot less.
08-04-2020, 03:22 AM
Kuroka

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I doubt it would change anything. The MBs being right next to the Limsa Aetheryte is too convenient for those using world visit to check MBs. I can use the Aethernet to get to the MB in Ul'dah just as fast as using the Aethernet to get to the Kugane MB, and both are slightly faster than sprinting across the bridge in Kugane (may be different for someone with exceptionally long load times when using the Aethernet in those cities).

Still, you're looking at 4-5 seconds each way in Limsa versus 14-15 seconds each way in Ul'dah or Kugane. If people were inclined to use a different city state for MB access, they already would be. The starter city states also house all the GCs, making it more convenient to use them for world visit since the player probably already has at least one of them set as a free/favored/Return destination.

If you really want to reduce congestion in Limsa, get the players who hang out there doing nothing to find a new spot. They were causing congestion in Limsa before world visit was added.

Then id say Se has to react and move the MBs away...
08-04-2020, 03:40 AM
Valkyrie_Lenneth

Not sure why people are shooting this down. It doesn't hurt anything and can only be useful.
08-04-2020, 03:57 AM
Doozer

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Then id say Se has to react and move the MBs away...

How would moving the market boards away help anything? People will just find the most efficient city to go to and congregate there, even if it's only 0.5 seconds faster than another one.

I'm glad all the main cities are different, and not just MBs next to aetherytes copied and pasted.
08-04-2020, 05:01 AM
Kuroka

it would be more spread, at least a bit. and maybe, just maybe less ppl would spam in limsa...
08-04-2020, 05:37 AM
Doozer

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

it would be more spread, at least a bit. and maybe, just maybe less ppl would spam in limsa...

Maybe, but it feels like a band-aid solution. There could be more incentive to being in other city states, but since they all serve the same function as of right now sans GC stuff, people will pick the ones with the most efficient designs.

It would be nice to have world visit in Kugane, Ishgard, etc., but I don't think doing it for world visit shopping or whatever is really necessary. It could just be there.
08-04-2020, 10:56 AM
Jojoya

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

it would be more spread, at least a bit. and maybe, just maybe less ppl would spam in limsa...

I doubt it. Every MMO ends up with a city where players congregate to see and be seen (just like they also tend to end up with one known for ERP). Sometimes the city will change as the game changes, sometimes not.

Limsa is the place for FFXIV. I doubt it will change considering low level characters can't visit cities added in later expansions without MSQ progression. That makes it a prime draw not just for players but for the RMT spam bots, increasing the load congestion even if the bots are hiding underground.

It's possible Limsa ended up that place because of the MB convenience. Moving the MBs to a different location (which I doubt would ever happen) isn't going to get players to change their long established habit of AFKing there.

Why do you feel the better solution is to change Limsa instead of you changing where you choose to hang out?