Does square enix hate purple?

So really real question here does square enix hate purple color almost every dye option leans towards reds/greens/blues and even within purple 2 of the purple dyes aren't purple they are more pink

Literally every color on the screen you're looking at now is made by mixing red, green, and blue. If you look at a color wheel, the majority are shades of red, green, and blue. The human eye prefers red, green, and blue. How many shades of purple do you think there are and how many do we need? And why did you pick purple out of the list of colors and not yellow?

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Literally every color on the screen you're looking at now is made by mixing red, green, and blue. If you look at a color wheel, the majority are shades of red, green, and blue. The human eye prefers red, green, and blue. How many shades of purple do you think there are and how many do we need? And why did you pick purple out of the list of colors and not yellow?

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well yellow has like almost an entire 2 blocks for one

for two thats mixtures which ya thats true

how many are there not sure

but how many do we need
well lets see
Amethyst purple,royal purple,Lavander purple ,dark purple ,very dark purple,, Raspberry purple,violet,lighting purple would be nice

I agree, we definitely need more purple dyes! I like most colors, but purple looks very nice on my character, so it kind of became her signature color.

Earlier today I even wanted to make a new outfit, but trying something to go with the purple Hyacinth and Campanula hairpins, I yet AGAIN had to notice there is no purple that matches their colors.

While we're at it, there are almost no real orange dyes as well, or yellowish greens. And grayish versions of multiple colors...

The worst thing though is that SO MANY pieces of gear STILL have undyeable parts that don't match ANY of the available ones. Why is that still a thing? When giving us limited dye options, at least make it so we can match them with everything. I like pieces with undyeable parts because it's the only way to not have something in only one solid color (or one color and its darker or washed out version). But it's a little annoying to combine like this.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Literally every color on the screen you're looking at now is made by mixing red, green, and blue. If you look at a color wheel, the majority are shades of red, green, and blue. The human eye prefers red, green, and blue. How many shades of purple do you think there are and how many do we need? And why did you pick purple out of the list of colors and not yellow?

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Purple is a combination of Red and Blue, so it's quite pleasing to the eye, and there's hardly any shades of purple compared to other colours. Op has a point.

My eyes don't think purple is pleasing. That's black, gold, dark blue.

Purple and Orange (Not Brown) does seem rather neglected. Hopefull the next wave of IR dyes can give us those (and Chartreuse)

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

My eyes don't think purple is pleasing. That's black, gold, dark blue.

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Purple/black/*some shades of pink not many* are pleasing to my eyes

gold hurts them badly bright red /yellow hurts my eyes dark blue (most blues cause me to zone out completely

Oh yes. We don't have a single decent purple in game while at this point we have a million blues.
Also, something I thought of reading the title, enemy armies in game tend to wear purple, so maybe they really hate it.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

well yellow has like almost an entire 2 blocks for one

for two thats mixtures which ya thats true

how many are there not sure

but how many do we need
well lets see
Amethyst purple,royal purple,Lavander purple ,dark purple ,very dark purple,, Raspberry purple,violet,lighting purple would be nice

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Not including metallic colors, purple and yellow have the same amount of dyes. I'm not sure where your "almost an entire 2 blocks" is coming from. Also, royal purple and dark purple are already in the game.

I don't disagree that there should be more shades of purple for us to choose from, but I was saying that there's a reason why there's a lot more red, green, and blue.

To be honest we really do need more shades of purple in the game.

@OP: yes, because it's the color for the flag of ala mhigo
heyo!

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Literally every color on the screen you're looking at now is made by mixing red, green, and blue. If you look at a color wheel, the majority are shades of red, green, and blue. The human eye prefers red, green, and blue. How many shades of purple do you think there are and how many do we need? And why did you pick purple out of the list of colors and not yellow?

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Red, yellow and blue. Green is not a primary color.

Yeah there does need to be more purple colors and good ones at that.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

gold hurts them badly bright red /yellow hurts my eyes dark blue (most blues cause me to zone out completely

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

Red, yellow and blue. Green is not a primary color.

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Green is not a primary color. But we're not painting. Literally everything electronic uses red, green, and blue to make colors.

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The main purpose of the RGB color model is for the sensing, representation, and display of images in electronic systems, such as televisions and computers, though it has also been used in conventional photography. Before the electronic age, the RGB color model already had a solid theory behind it, based in human perception of colors.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

Red, yellow and blue. Green is not a primary color.

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Red, yellow and blue are primary colours of paint.

Red, green and blue are primary colours of light.

I just had this frustration last night when I was searching for a color for my Dragoon!

We need more purple options!

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Originally Posted by TyrTry

I just had this frustration last night when I was searching for a color for my Dragoon!

We need more purple options!

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Dragoon has a perfect match but it's not in the purple tab.

Try "Abyssal Blue".


(I have no idea why someone thought the name Dragoon Blue should go to that Screen-of-Death Blue they introduced recently.)

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Dragoon has a perfect match but it's not in the purple tab.

Try "Abyssal Blue".


(I have no idea why someone thought the name Dragoon Blue should go to that Screen-of-Death Blue they introduced recently.)

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Abyssal Blue is useful more for being the closest to the indigo (read: blue-violet) shade in the game, the lack of more explicit options is a symptom of the lack of purple dyes the thread was made for.

(I actually use the shade for my NIN glam because I wanted such an indigo color, I also used Dragoon Blue on DRG because I wanted saturated colors and the name at least makes it appropriate for the job)

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Abyssal Blue is useful more for being the closest to the indigo (read: blue-violet) shade in the game, the lack of more explicit options is a symptom of the lack of purple dyes the thread was made for.

(I actually use the shade for my NIN glam because I wanted such an indigo color, I also used Dragoon Blue on DRG because I wanted saturated colors and the name at least makes it appropriate for the job)

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Yes, Abyssal Blue also works well for ninja. But it tones in with dragoon armour perfectly and I've been using it for ages. This is the best reference pic I have on hand, though it doesn't show off the colours all that well.

Wikipedia gives a few different colour examples for shades of indigo - Abyssal Blue is what I would otherwise call "electric purple" and the article labels as "electric indigo". FFXIV's Midnight Blue seems to be "web-colour indigo". ("Indigo dye" is the colour I normally associate with indigo, as that's what it's used for in Derwent pencils which were my main source of learning fancy colour-words!)

In any case, if indigo is "blue-violet" then it does make consistent sense to file those under blue rather than purple. Orange-reds (and orange-pinks like coral) are under red, greenish-yellows are under yellow, blue-greens are under green, reddish-purples are under purple. Each one picks up the "hybrid" colours for the next step around the colour wheel - possibly excepting orange/brown which is a bit of an odd one out regardless.

Certainly we could do with more purples - magenta is a top pick for me, and I'm disappointed with some of the uglier colours that did get added. But that doesn't change that there are more purples than just in the purple tab when you're trying to find a match.

(Does anyone really like vanilla yellow? It looks like a very hard-to-use colour and I've never needed to match anything like it - unless maybe it does interesting things with metallics.)

It's probably because there are literally less shades of purple than some other colors. Purple barely registers into our spectrum of visible light.

Regardless, I agree with you that they still could do better. I'd love it if they added a vivid neon purple.

What ItMe said. Unfortunately, there's just less purple for human eyes as it stands.

Though they obviously haven't used every shade of purple that there is, so we definitely could have more dyes. My guess is that they take time to add in what's deemed most popular, and just sorta sit on the other dyes... though there are so many brown dyes hehe, and I hardly ever see people using dyes in the brown tab.

I tend to gravitate towards Charcoal grey, Deepwood or Morbol green, Rhotano Blue, Wine Red, Gloom Purple, or Metallic Silver myself.

They actually added some new dyes to the game recently so I wouldn't be surprised to see additional colours added in the future.

Colors. Sonic Colors. I'll see myself out. >.>

Honestly we just need to nix the current system and get a proper color wheel so players can have any shade or hue imaginable.

Want a really specific color like R76 G43 B75? Drag your mouse to that spot on the wheel and press apply.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

They actually added some new dyes to the game recently so I wouldn't be surprised to see additional colours added in the future.

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While that's true all the colors added were all to ones that have almost 2 full list on them already

Purple doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Wikipedia gives a few different colour examples for shades of indigo - Abyssal Blue is what I would otherwise call "electric purple" and the article labels as "electric indigo". FFXIV's Midnight Blue seems to be "web-colour indigo". ("Indigo dye" is the colour I normally associate with indigo, as that's what it's used for in Derwent pencils which were my main source of learning fancy colour-words!)

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I'll consider Midnight Blue then, thanks.

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(Does anyone really like vanilla yellow? It looks like a very hard-to-use colour and I've never needed to match anything like it - unless maybe it does interesting things with metallics.)

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Vanilla Yellow is weird, the other 5 Dyes are both saturated and include a color is adjacent it to but could be its own color entirely. But this one is a pastel/off-white color, more akin to the GP-Pastel dyes or the likes of Celeste Green or Cobiri Pink

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

While that's true all the colors added were all to ones that have almost 2 full list on them already

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TBF those are the primary colors. And There is now a proper Pink dyein the game (which is in the reds) and an awesome cyan dye (whetherornot that counts as "blue" seems to be up to player preference)

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

I'll consider Midnight Blue then, thanks.



Vanilla Yellow is weird, the other 5 Dyes are both saturated and include a color is adjacent it to but could be its own color entirely. But this one is a pastel/off-white color, more akin to the GP-Pastel dyes or the likes of Celeste Green or Cobiri Pink



TBF those are the primary colors. And There is now a proper Pink dyein the game (which is in the reds) and an awesome cyan dye (whetherornot that counts as "blue" seems to be up to player preference)

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eh Cyan has always been kinda blue themed if you ever go into a paint store (for painting walls) its always located in the blue section lol

as for the other Yes they are primary but that isn't a reason to neglected the others when those prims already had a ton of options

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Red, yellow and blue are primary colours of paint.

Red, green and blue are primary colours of light.

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The first is incorrect, at least in the context of the second statement. Cyan, magenta and yellow are primary paint colours since you can create all colours out of them. You cannot create all colours out of red, yellow and blue pigment. The only contex where red, yellow and blue are primary colours is in the kindergarten introduced colour wheel which is mostly just a social construct rather than a useful tool. This is a good video explaining it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhA18_dmg0

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

The first is incorrect, at least in the context of the second statement. Cyan, magenta and yellow are primary paint colours since you can create all colours out of them. You cannot create all colours out of red, yellow and blue pigment. The only contex where red, yellow and blue are primary colours is in the kindergarten introduced colour wheel which is mostly just a social construct rather than a useful tool. This is a good video explaining it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhA18_dmg0

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A construct which is derived from the CYMK model no less.

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Originally Posted by HakaseNyan

Purple doesn't exist.

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Neither do orange or brown, but we have many dyes for those.

Orange and brown exist. Oranges are the various wavelengths of light between red and yellow, and browns are just those wavelengths with lower saturation.

Purple doesn't exist in the sense that there's no pure wavelength of light we can ever associate with it. (Caveat here that indigo/violet, which do have pure wavelengths, often get colloquially lumped in with purple/magenta.) Purple/magenta is just an optical illusion resulting from how our biology works. In a gross oversimplification of what is actually happening, our brains take the RBG signals we receive and sort of average them out. Since both the red and blue sensors are being triggered our brain would ordinarily average that out to be green since that's the wavelength of light that lies between the two, but our green sensors aren't being triggered at all so our brain makes up the magenta/purple colour to be able to process that conflict. This has the illusionary effect of linking the red and blue ends of the physically linear colour spectrum into a perceptually circular one.

purple exists as long as ppl agree it exists.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Orange and brown exist. Oranges are the various wavelengths of light between red and yellow, and browns are just those wavelengths with lower saturation.

Purple doesn't exist in the sense that there's no pure wavelength of light we can ever associate with it. (Caveat here that indigo/violet, which do have pure wavelengths, often get colloquially lumped in with purple/magenta.) Purple/magenta is just an optical illusion resulting from how our biology works. In a gross oversimplification of what is actually happening, our brains take the RBG signals we receive and sort of average them out. Since both the red and blue sensors are being triggered our brain would ordinarily average that out to be green since that's the wavelength of light that lies between the two, but our green sensors aren't being triggered at all so our brain makes up the magenta/purple colour to be able to process that conflict. This has the illusionary effect of linking the red and blue ends of the physically linear colour spectrum into a perceptually circular one.

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Purple exist in nature lavender is purple , Amethyst is purple ,Lighting is purple

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Purple exist in nature lavender is purple , Amethyst is purple ,Lighting is purple

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Our perception of the combination of wavelengths of light that are reflected by or emitted by those things is purple. A pure wavelength of light that corresponds to purple doesn't exist. The reason those items look purple isn't because they're reflecting or emitting purple light, it's because our perception of the red and blue light they are reflecting or emitting is purple. It's a uniquely biologically based perception phenomenon.

To take it one step further... in some respect, all of the colours technically don't exist except as a biological perception of the wavelengths of visible light. But even then, all of the colours along the wheel moving from blue to green to red have a one-to-one correspondence with specific wavelengths of visible light. Anything in the purple section between blue and red, however, doesn't.

And to take it even one step further than that... if our eyes instead had yellow, indigo and orange receptors then those 3 colours would be the primary colours of visible light and their immediate combinations would be the primary colours of pigments, and the one that was the combination of orange and indigo would be that system's colour that didn't actually exist. And we probably wouldn't see red or perceive it as a shade of orange since orange would be the limit of our visible light. Likewise, we likely would have more colours past indigo that we don't see now since we'd be able to see further past indigo than we do now. Colour is inherently a function of our biology with light as the input variable.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Orange and brown exist. Oranges are the various wavelengths of light between red and yellow, and browns are just those wavelengths with lower saturation.

Purple doesn't exist in the sense that there's no pure wavelength of light we can ever associate with it

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You're right.
What I was trying to get at is that our eyes only have cones for the colors red, green, and blue.
All of the other colors are our brains making something up to associate with the other wavelengths.

I am here to advocate for more purple dyes. Yes please ALL the purple dyes. And not on the pink spectrum go put that under red kthnx XD

Well, it is in keeping with lore (and real-life history too) - traditionally purple dye was extremely difficult to produce as it could only be created in very small amounts from the ink extracted from a certain species of sea snail, hence the association with royalty and wealth (in Roman times the colour was associated with the emperor, who wore a toga with a purple stripe), and by extension, the shade of purple known as 'royal blue'. It was only with the onset of the Industrial Revolution and with advances in chemistry leading to the invention of synthetic dyes that purple fabrics (and other colours too) could be easily and cheaply created and dyed.

Given Eorzea is, despite some advances trickling in from Garlemald via the Garlond Ironworks, stil in a roughly late medieval, early Renaissance level of technological development, having only a limited number of purple shades for dyes is very much in keeping with the real-world history that it is inspired by.