A question about the terrible sound this game calls music

I'm just watching a quartet performing (I say watching, because I prefer not hearing what the play) and am wondering, are they just bad at it, or doesn't this game let the players play real melodies (that they can decide themselves)? I would so have loved to listen to a real concert, real in the sense that real music was played, not just sounds.

I'm confused. Anyone with a bard can pull out an instrument and "play". The instruments are actually played manually. It isn't uncommon for multiple players to just press random notes in cities. But there are also people that play proper melodies.

Not sure if intentionally misleading topic title.

There's more then enough variance in instruments and pitch shifting to piece together a good song.

Some people just aren't as good at it as others.

Unlock Bard and do it yourself, maybe?

SO what you're basically saying is that you can make sounds, but not music?

music
/ˈmjuːzɪk/
noun
1.
vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.
"couples were dancing to the music"

To think I'm bored enough to read another bored player's troll.

Music is just sounds in an order, if you can make sounds, you can make music. The quality of the music is subject to the one playing it.

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Originally Posted by Angelhearth

SO what you're basically saying is that you can make sounds, but not music?

music
/ˈmjuːzɪk/
noun
1.
vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.
"couples were dancing to the music"

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Going to give you the benefit of the doubt here.
Players are essentially given a small piano to play. Some people are like a cat walking across the keyboard while others are talented pianists. So you can make both a cacophony or music depending on how talented and willing you are.

How can you even play as a quartet in this game? Latency won't allow you to sync with other player's music as far as I'm aware.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

How can you even play as a quartet in this game? Latency won't allow you to sync with other player's music as far as I'm aware.

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There's actually an option exactly for syncing since 5.1: Patch Notes. Sometimes it's a good idea to pay more attention to what developers add into the game.

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Ensemble mode has been added.
This feature helps ensure all party members will be heard in sync by players in the vicinity.

Accessing Ensemble Mode
From the ready check menu, select Enter Ensemble Mode then commence the ready check.

Setting playback type to Self Only will mute the performance of party members.

Setting playback type to All Members will play the instruments of all party members with an increased delay.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

There's actually an option exactly for syncing since 5.1: Patch Notes. Sometimes it's a good idea to pay more attention to what developers add into the game.

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Oh nice didn't know that

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Oh nice didn't know that

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Yeah, neither did I lol. I guess I don't read a lot of the music stuff since I don't use it all that much. That's neat! XD

They are musical instruments and like all musical instruments they have limitations. They are capable of the full 12 note western scale and therefore can be used to reproduce to some degree any melody in western music you are probably familiar with. If you don't like what you are hearing take it up with the musician, or better yet, learn to play yourself. But remember, beauty is in the eye and ear, and probably nose too, of the beholder.

It's still better than current top pop sellers in the West

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Originally Posted by SigSauer

To think I'm bored enough to read another bored player's troll.

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Either you don't understand what music is, are tone deaf, or just unbelievably...

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Originally Posted by Jin-

It's still better than current top pop sellers in the West

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Can't argue with that. :)

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Originally Posted by Jin-

It's still better than current top pop sellers in the West

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Damning with faint praise there.

If it's player-generated, "the game" isn't calling it anything.

This is like complaining to a piano maker that someone can bash the keys and not have it come out sounding like music.

"Are the people I cant hear playing music badly?"


I dunno, I play with the game muted, but you also dont know, which makes me perfectly qualified to answer.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

If it's player-generated, "the game" isn't calling it anything.

This is like complaining to a piano maker that someone can bash the keys and not have it come out sounding like music.

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You probably didn't get my meaning with the post. I don't blame the developers, or the players, I was wondering if it actually wasn't possible to play real music in the game.

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Originally Posted by Angelhearth

You probably didn't get my meaning with the post. I don't blame the developers, or the players, I was wondering if it actually wasn't possible to play real music in the game.

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Yes, and judging from your first post, you've heard one person (or group of people) banging on the piano keys and asked if it actually wasn't possible to play real music on that piano.

It's an instrument. You don't have to pass a music test before the game lets you play it in public. Why would you assume that there's some kind of anti-music control on it rather than that the individual performer is playing it badly?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Yes, and judging from your first post, you've heard one person (or group of people) banging on the piano keys and asked if it actually wasn't possible to play real music on that piano.

It's an instrument. You don't have to pass a music test before the game lets you play it in public. Why would you assume that there's some kind of anti-music control on it rather than that the individual performer is playing it badly?

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But I didn't assume anything, I asked a question. Is that illegal?

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Originally Posted by Angelhearth

But I didn't assume anything, I asked a question. Is that illegal?

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Of course it is not illegal, but it was a silly question.
Naturally it is perfectly possible to play actual music using the performance system, but just like in real life most people do not have the skill to produce more than random notes.

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Originally Posted by Angelhearth

But I didn't assume anything, I asked a question. Is that illegal?

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Calling it "the terrible sound this game calls music" is an assumption in itself - that the game designers somehow endorse this as the expected quality of music.

And again, why would you ask if there's some kind of anti-music control on the basis of one person's bad playing, instead of assuming it's a bad player?

:facepalm at OP: Someone didn't take the time to read somewhere how Performance works, hm? :')

To be honest, I was pretty sure it's common knowledge meanwhile, that Bards can play virtual instruments via keyboard like one would play an - let's say - electronic piano, but seemingly that impression was wrong.

But hearing about the poor example you witnessed ingame:
Do yourself a favour and google "Final Fantasy XIV The Moogle Troupe". I suppose the band is a good / positive example for a proper ingame-concert.

Gonna just advertise for them because they're awesome.

There's a wandering troupe of Moogle-clad performers that *I think* performs monthly in Ul'dah on Crystal. They perform renditions of both in game music and modern music: their rendition of Heart's "Magic Man" was closely followed by the theme of the Tempest. Really cool stuff. If you have a character on Crystal, look em up and give them some support.

((EDIT: They're called the Moogle Troupe, and they're located on all the orher data centers too! Definitely give them a look!))

To answer your...well, "question" would imply a good faith inquiry, but anyways, your post, I'm glad your not the sole arbiter of what is deemed "music". The game's perform function utilizes midi-style sound samples that one can use to create a melody. Synchronize with party members and you get a song. You can really get a good song going, too. So nuts to you and your "no fun allowed" mentality, and you should feel bad for attempting to shame people just having fun with Perform. If it really rustles your jimmies that much, just mute it.

Giving doubt, but I'm assuming OP meant there aren't any chords for a person to play on solo - which in normal instruments, you can do. I'm not sure if that's just an inherent design choice but it would make sense if this is what OP meant because a lot of melodies that could be played are limited due to being only able to press one note at a time compared to a musical score which may have chords playing in addition to the melody itself.