Probably wild theory: 2P is not who she seems (Nier:A spoilers)

Okay I'm putting this out there because I have a sneaking suspicion Yoko Taro is gonna pull the rug from underneath us. And there are a couple things that are a little suspicious.

• For starters we know that most if not all YoHRa model android are blindfolded on the field that makes it convenient for hiding the tell of the Logic Virus, 9S' blindfold fell off after the end of the raid revealing that he wasn't infected. 2P OTOH never shown her eyes. Of course this still has some holes in it from what I gathered from the Logic Virus and hazy memories.
• On that note there is also the matter of 2P's color scheme, a direct inversion of both 2B and 9S's palettes. Which also coincides on an expansion where the forces of evil is corrupted light, on a setting where said light devastated the star, even without that backdrop one must wonder, why use those colors instead of the original 2B?
• I'd also mention Konogg's opinions onher as untrustworthy, apart form setting up future conflict between the twins, why bring up the idea that she can't be trusted at all? Well there the possibility of it begin a red herring of sorts, but still.

I'd speculate thet she might be infected with the Logic virus, but that seems too derivative from the base game (where that did happen and was the reason 9S killed her). Her being a sin eater is also possible but coloring aside she doesn't exhibit any of the usual traits and while there are stuff like sin eater golems, sin eater machina are still kinda unprecedented. I could also theoririze that 2P came forma different from from 9S, which woudn't be that farfetched since the multiverse was canonized, but that still begs the question on how they wound up in the same space, and how they were on a shard of Hydaelyn. Regardless, 2P does seem shady.

From someone who never played Nier, what is this logic virus?
Lore wise there would be a hell of a lot of explaining to do to make this even remotely understandable.

I checked the Nier wiki my memories of the game is secondhand and hazy. The Logic Virus is...

A failsafe made to prevent the androids from learning the truth about humanity's extinction, and the fact that their mission was a Sisyphean lie, they cause the infected to go berserk

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

2P OTOH never shown her eyes. Of course this still has some holes in it from what I gathered from the Logic Virus and hazy memories.

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Did we not see her without a blindfold on (and thus see her eyes) when we first find her in the cave? I'm certain that we did.

This is going to be complicated no matter what since it is suggested Nier Raid follows the Ending in Nier when 9S left Earth in that spaceship with other machine life to find a new world to call home. A new world which is now the First.

A sin eater android, now that would be something.

I feel like Taro is throwing the most obvious things at us for the sake of speculation. See Drakengard/Nier original where you meet this cast of wildly different personalities and those you think you can trust throw something at you from left field.

Is 2P trust worthy? Very likely not. But it's nice to think so. Big Nier Auto Spoilers.

2B was 2E and not even the true protagonist, 9S isn't as carefree and gentle as he appears via "You really want to **** 2B, don't you?" (which I read as kill because 4 letters) and we see that we're finally playing a Yoko Taro character, and even the Commander was a big liar for the sake of everyone.

I think that will come out in the 2nd tier if we get a new character or heck, even the dwarf who tells us not to do this in the first place. After playing Drakengard and NieR, I take every surface value trait with a grain of salt. Because it's always been flipped and spat onto your face. One I really like being Five's true nature.

Also something tells me Taro would have made our WoL go full Caim if given the chance.

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Originally Posted by Gula

A sin eater android, now that would be something.

I feel like Taro is throwing the most obvious things at us for the sake of speculation. See Drakengard/Nier original where you meet this cast of wildly different personalities and those you think you can trust throw something at you from left field.

Is 2P trust worthy? Very likely not. But it's nice to think so. Big Nier Auto Spoilers.

2B was 2E and not even the true protagonist, 9S isn't as carefree and gentle as he appears via "You really want to **** 2B, don't you?" (which I read as kill because 4 letters) and we see that we're finally playing a Yoko Taro character, and even the Commander was a big liar for the sake of everyone.

I think that will come out in the 2nd tier if we get a new character or heck, even the dwarf who tells us not to do this in the first place. After playing Drakengard and NieR, I take every surface value trait with a grain of salt. Because it's always been flipped and spat onto your face. One I really like being Five's true nature.

Also something tells me Taro would have made our WoL go full Caim if given the chance.

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Who knows what the state of 9S mentality can be and 2P's objectives are. After all, we did see a room full of 2Bs in exploration mode of the raid map which suggest 9S or someone else may have attempted to recreate 2B/2E but failed each time.

The speculated failing maybe due to 2B/2E's true nature of killing 9S whenever they get too close to the truth and if their powers become released since in Nier Automata it is stated 9S's powers was being heavily nerfed by a lot of restrictions to prevent him from learning the truth and so he does not become too powerful so he can no longer be controlled. With Nier Raid 1 we see the full extent of his powers when they are not sealed.

Given as Logic Virus causes its victims eyes to turn red and their skin to flake off (showing the metal frame beneath), and 2P exhibits neither of these traits (she is shown with her blindfold off after being put on the table when she's rescued from the Machine Lifeforms during the intro quest in homage to 2B's awakening in the Bunker after the into mission of Automata; her eyes are the steely grey you'd expect), at the current moment I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

What actually is going on is impossible to discern at the moment, because we have zero context regarding anything that's happened thus far. Given Automata's plot twists it's reasonable to expect similar developments, but what those are... who can say?

I wanna play this game. Is it on PC? Steam, maybe?

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

I wanna play this game. Is it on PC? Steam, maybe?

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It is on steam!

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

I wanna play this game. Is it on PC? Steam, maybe?

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PC port is terribly optimised. Get it on console or just pass on it, because it genuinely is that badly optimised.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

PC port is terribly optimised. Get it on console or just pass on it, because it genuinely is that badly optimised.

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I'm assuming you played both and have a bias? Just playing PC isn't so terrible.

AFAIK the steam port requires a non-official patch to be properly playable, as it it has lag issues and glitches and the like. If that's been fixed I'm not sure, since the last time I tried PC version was a month or two after it was available.

I never heard of any lag when I bought it for friends. Though if there is any delay or jank, it's the proper NieR experience.

Maybe it got fixed finally? It's been a while!

As for the OP - don't ever assume you know what's going on in a Yoko Taro game or story. He will always find some twist to it to surprise you.

Yeah my nier automata worked fine, the only thing I had trouble with was streaming it.

I think that 2P and the White Chlorination particles are connected. I'm worried about the dwarf - Komogg I think? - who breathed it in. I'm worried about those implications and how the androids may be connected. Considering how Taro works, it'll be some off the wall bullkupo, but I have a feeling it's connected.

How, no clue. But considering the new raid location too... unless 2P is a White Queen-esque android/all of the androids that are dead and they're spreading the WCP by the flaking off of their skin etc. :|a


Now I'm going to be going nuts until I get more lore, ugh.