When all the rest of the "Emperor's New" stuff, including the PGL fists, are like 2k gil each and from an entirely different source?
Would it really have killed you to simply add the shield that's clearly part of the same set of "invisible" gear to the same vendor that has all the rest of the "invisible" gear? This thing sticks out like a sore thumb now (which, ironically, is exactly the opposite of what it's supposed to be doing)
The only reason I can think of it being like this is because the other "invisible" shield happened to be from Garo stuff and THAT one cost 100k MGP if you didn't want to earn/spend the PvP points on it, and they didn't want to step on the toes of anyone who got that, but come on, that reasoning is pretty lame.
Why does the Emperor's New Shield cost 100k MGP?
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05-10-2020, 07:52 AMFynlarWhy does the Emperor's New Shield cost 100k MGP?
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05-10-2020, 08:04 AMEnigmaticDodoPretty sure you answered your own question here. I earned it in PvP, which really didn't take too long (I think a single match with Challenge log bonus?), but wouldn't particularly care if they lowered the price on it. Regardless, you can earn some pretty easy MGP if you do the Fashion Report stuff, which people have the guide for on Reddit and doing misc Challenge Log stuff. Hell, if you play ONE match of Lord of Verminion Tournaments against AI, you can earn some pretty insane MGP for the effort.Quote:
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05-10-2020, 08:23 AMFynlar
I'm not complaining about having to farm MGP; I've already got all the buyable minions, mounts, music rolls, TT cards, etc. so I've done a fair share of MGP farming already. (That, and I did get the Garo shield.)
This post is more complaining about the inconsistency. Why call it "Emperor's New" gear and then not even bother to stick it on the same vendor that sells all the other "Emperor's New" stuff? Like I said, the Garo shield thing is not a good excuse. It is in the nature of games like this for stuff to be made easier/cheaper to obtain over time, not to be kept just as difficult/expensive as it was simply because "that's how it used to be" or whatever. The Garo stuff is old by now. It had its day. -
05-10-2020, 08:49 AMAvidriaProbably is something to do with Garo because it literally was part of the Garo stuff - as in, ALL Garo gear was available for MGP during the event. They probably just changed the name and stuck it with the same price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fynlar
Actually didn't realize they even changed the name 'cause the one I have is called "Divine Beast Shield" :P I'm not opposed to them sticking it on the Emperor's New vendor instead, but I could see them doing it this way to keep it consistent with what the exact same shield cost before the event ended. Maybe they'll add it elsewhere later /shrug -
05-10-2020, 01:01 PMlolicon09
I mean, 100k MGP is something you can get in a very few hours anyway
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05-10-2020, 01:18 PMStepjam
It started life as part of the Garo crossover collection. The normal pieces were earned through PVP, but you could get an undyable version through golden saucer. With like patch 5.1 or .2, that collection was removed from the game, but they realized that people might want a shieldless option and there wasn't anything specifically Garo about it. So that one piece remains in Golden Saucer, but renamed to "Emperor's new shield" to fit with the rest of the invisible items.
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05-10-2020, 02:15 PMFynlarWay to miss the point. Did I say anywhere that getting 100k MGP was hard?Quote:
I mean, 100k MGP is something you can get in a very few hours anyway
It's simply imbalanced and inconsistent compared to the rest of the "Emperor's New" gear.
Like I said, I'm aware of the Garo stuff and I have the Garo shield. But this thing isn't Garo gear; it's specifically named as "Emperor's New" gear.Quote:
It started life as part of the Garo crossover collection. The normal pieces were earned through PVP, but you could get an undyable version through golden saucer. With like patch 5.1 or .2, that collection was removed from the game, but they realized that people might want a shieldless option and there wasn't anything specifically Garo about it. So that one piece remains in Golden Saucer, but renamed to "Emperor's new shield" to fit with the rest of the invisible items.
Every single other piece of "Emperor's New" gear is sold by a different vendor, and for far cheaper. I'd like to know why this thing is still an exception. The Garo stuff is, what, 3 years old or so? Didn't the event start somewhere in 2017?
Regardless, the whole "invisible shield should cost 100k MGP because it always used to be 100k MGP and people who bought it in 2017 would get upset if everyone else in 2020 can buy it for 2k gil like all the other Emperor's New gear" argument doesn't hold up that well, considering all the other things in this game that were cheapened, trivialized, or otherwise made simpler to acquire in a similar span of three years' time. -
05-10-2020, 05:15 PMFrizze
OP: Youve convinced me. The rest of the Emporers New set of gear is too cheap. Raise the prices to be more in line with the shield.
Honestly, you could probly make that much in 30 mins or less. An 80+pt fashion report is 60k for sitting through a 10 second cutscene. A few 3 min matches in Verminion would finish it off. You might even be able to play triad quick enough to finish within 30 mins.Quote:
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05-10-2020, 05:58 PMFynlarI mean, I personally wouldn't care if it was resolved that way, but I imagine that could irk a number of other people.Quote:
OP: Youve convinced me. The rest of the Emporers New set of gear is too cheap. Raise the prices to be more in line with the shield.
Again, this topic isn't really to complain about how difficult it is to make 100k MGP (it's not, but at the same time I hope it's quite evident that it still is a lot more of an investment than 2k gil); it's about this item being inconsistent with its ilk. -
05-10-2020, 06:52 PMShinklet
Dude it's mgp for a cosmetic.
Like, this is a day's worth of jumping every 15 mins to check what fate will be up in a short while or a week of doing cactpot, give it a day off, christ -
05-10-2020, 06:53 PMLiam_Harper
Unless I'm mistaken, other classes don't have the ability to make part of their weapon, or OH, invisible? So the shield is somewhat unique in that respect.
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05-10-2020, 07:19 PMRhus
Might be above the cost (if you feel one Mgp is one Gil) but it’s in line with mgp cost stuff as it is when most are about the 80-100k mgp.
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05-10-2020, 08:40 PMAvidriaAs far as I know the only one that can is monk. The Emperor's New Fists which I think can be bought from the same vendor as the other ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam_Harper
I really think it's as simple as just not changing the price on an item that was already for sale. I mean it's not really an "appearance" per SE but depending on your priorities it could suck to be able to buy it for mgp one day and then the second the Garo event ends it drops to 2k Gil on a vendor you might not even have access to and leave you stuck buying it off the mb :P or out 100k mgp you just spent and no longer need to
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05-10-2020, 09:07 PMIscah
I think they've just recycled the item information from the Garo shield without giving it much more thought. They haven't expanded it to being equippable by mages, either.
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05-10-2020, 09:36 PMWiccan026
The reason why is probably due to what another poster posted: SE chose to give the shieldless option in case folks realized later that it existed before and it was no longer an option (due to it originally being a Garo item, which yes I'm very aware you know of it's existence).
That being said, due to how you had to get all the other items when they were available that item was going to be worth MGP regardless (to keep complaining to a minimum suppose) and due to when they added it (I'm pretty sure it's more of a recent addition) instead of just the gil. Would you be upset with them if they stuck it in the Gold Saucer and it had a different name? If you wouldn't be than you should just relax a bit, I'm pretty sure that name was given so they wouldn't have to think and could just inject it back into the game as quick as they could so they wouldn't have to put any extra effort into coming up with an invisible name. -
05-10-2020, 09:38 PMMsQi
If the intention is to be consistent with Garo perhaps they should have one available for Wolf Marks too?
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05-10-2020, 11:50 PMEnigmaticDodoGood idea! I wouldn't oppose this.Quote:
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05-11-2020, 12:36 AMMalmstrom10 seconds? Like a full agonizing minute!Quote:
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Source: queue popped right as I started the cutscene and I missed it this morning. -
05-11-2020, 12:45 AMFynlarI literally mentioned the invisible PGL/MNK weapon in the first post (which is also 2k gil, like all the other pieces other than the shield)Quote:
Unless I'm mistaken, other classes don't have the ability to make part of their weapon, or OH, invisible? So the shield is somewhat unique in that respect.
Probably because they don't use shields anymore?Quote:
They haven't expanded it to being equippable by mages, either.
I mean, I wouldn't keep your hopes up for this one. They've very clearly branched (heh) away from this after ARR.
Probably not, no. Just the fact they called it "Emperor's New" gear makes it clear they obviously thought of the rest of the set of gear, but they then intentionally decided to give it that name yet not put it on the same vendor and for the same price as the rest of the gear, and I find that decision questionable.Quote:
Would you be upset with them if they stuck it in the Gold Saucer and it had a different name?
Also wouldn't be opposed to that.Quote:
If the intention is to be consistent with Garo perhaps they should have one available for Wolf Marks too?