Leveling Roulette

Can someone please explain to me why I, a level 67 Black Mage, had to wait almost half an hour on the leveling roulette queue, to be put into SASTASHA, with a Dark Knight, an Astrologian, and a Summoner?

In case you don't know, Dark Knight and Astrologian start at level 30. The Summoner had level 70 gear. Why were the 4 of us put into a LEVEL FIFTEEN DUNGEON?!

Leveling in this game is already hard enough. The quests don't give anywhere near as much EXP as they should, considering the amount of time (and patience) they require to complete. The only other alternative are FATEs (which are only viable in Shadowbringers), and dungeons.

If the only explanation to this situation is "leveling roulette picks a dungeon at random", which I doubt is the case, wouldn't it be reasonable (and extremely desirable for everyone) if they were to look into this and potentially fix this, so that people who are trying to level up a DPS don't get a slap to the face like this again please?

Think it’s a the same exp tho. From what I’ve been told the exp is balanced. Lower dungeon gives less exp per kill but a better bonus at the end while higher dungeon gove more exp per kill but a smaller bonus to compensate. What you don’t want is one of the trials lol now that’s a mother matter.
Could be wrong tho as I’ve not done the math, just what I’ve been told when levelling and having similar complaints

I think one of those players likely queued for Sastasha manually, for whatever reason (probably training new job if they are new or only played SCH thus far), and you got matched with them based on queue time of all players involved.

This is an old gripe. A very old one. The duty finder only subtracts from your pool based on member level and the dungeon you get, even if you have a completely full preformed party is totally random. Try being a party of all 79 level members and getting Sastasha. There are debates going way back about this and unfortunately I don't see it ever being addressed.

However, Sastasha used to be preferred if you didn't get something close to your current level due to the huge exp scaling for a very low skill dungeon but I don't know if that's still the case. Me? I que as Tank (which I'm not particularly good at) at lvl 79 thinking I'll get Brayflox or something and get Mt. Gulg. Sometimes RNG likes to get it's laughs in I guess.

Yeah, I almost always get Mt. Gulg as a tank.

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

If the only explanation to this situation is "leveling roulette picks a dungeon at random", which I doubt is the case...

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Picking something at random is exactly what "roulette" implies.

If one of those Lv30 jobs is newly unlocked, your chance of getting Sastasha is one-in-five - or one-in-six if everyone has unlocked Halatali. (And if you don't get Sastasha, your chances of getting something else equally unwanted are pretty high.)

But there's also a decent chance of you being pulled into high-level content, if you're needed because someone directly queued for a higher dungeon you're eligible for. But those times aren't going to stick in your mind the same way.

Man, I thought you were kidding when you said you were going to complain on the official forums.

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"leveling roulette picks a dungeon at random",

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If you are not seeded into a group with someone having selected a dungeon, roulettes pick a random instance all players have unlocked AND have any applicable ilvl for.

Its why you will be disproportionately put into the lowest level mandatory instances, then current level instances, with older, optional instances last.


XP rewards for roulette bonuses (first time per day) are a set amount based on the level of the class you queued with, minus xp earned from kills (though this is reduced for 4man trials in leveling roulette).

"why I, a level 67 Black Mage, had to wait almost half an hour on the leveling roulette queue"
Simple. Because you aren't a Healer or a Tank

"Leveling in this game is already hard enough"
Yeah ... No. Levelling in this game is easy

The daily roulette bonus scales up your EXP in accordance to how much you outlevel the content that you get, so it doesn't much matter. You get lower EXP from the actual dungeon but the increased bonus at the end compensates.


If you were to roll a level-appropriate dungeon, the roulette bonus will be significantly lower.

Did you mean sastasha roulette? I cleared every side quest this game has, just to never see it again.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Did you mean sastasha roulette? I cleared every side quest this game has, just to never see it again.

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That's not how it works lol... You unlocked it, just like the Aurum Vale, you will always have it ...
You don't want a particular dungeon, never unlock it.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

That's not how it works lol... You unlocked it, just like the Aurum Vale, you will always have it ...
You don't want a particular dungeon, never unlock it.

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5head
It't not like game forces you to open it for the MSQ.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

5head
It't not like game forces you to open it for the MSQ.

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Aurum Vale isn't part of the MSQ, it's an optional side dungeon. It's unlocked from the same NPC that gives you Halatali, Qarn, and Amdapoor Keep. It was only needed for Grand Company completion at one point, unless they changed it recently but I can't find any patch notes to indicate they did.

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Originally Posted by Enla

Aurum Vale isn't part of the MSQ, it's an optional side dungeon. It's unlocked from the same NPC that gives you Halatali, Qarn, and Amdapoor Keep. It was only needed for Grand Company completion at one point.

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I can't believe I need to explain something as that simple.
Let's do this. Leveling roulette gives you exp, what else gives you exp? Side quests! So to avoid going into leveling roulette (that was a joke about sastasha almost always shows up in leveling roulette) I made all quests to level up jobs I need.
Now why do you need bring up Aurum Vale is mystery that maybe only cosmic beings knows.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

I can't believe I need to explain something as that simple.
Let's do this. Leveling roulette gives you exp, what else gives you exp? Side quests! So to avoid going into leveling roulette (that was a joke about sastasha almost always shows up in leveling roulette) I made all quests to level up jobs I need.
Now why do you need bring up Aurum Vale is mystery that maybe only cosmic beings knows.

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Poor reading comprehension on my part brought on by extreme exhaustion and not feeling too well. My apologies, re-read the posts in questions.

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Originally Posted by Enla

Poor reading comprehension on my part brought on by extreme exhaustion and not feeling too well. My apologies, re-read the posts in questions.

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No worries, it was other guy anyway.
They should implement something to choose what expansion dungeons you want (not specific, just random dungeon from that they expansion) as long as all party lvls can enter. That would be really good for full parties.

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

Can someone please explain to me why I, a level 67 Black Mage, had to wait almost half an hour on the leveling roulette queue, to be put into SASTASHA, with a Dark Knight, an Astrologian, and a Summoner?

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It's not roulette if you always win.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

5head
It't not like game forces you to open it for the MSQ.

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I used the example of Aurum Vale, because it is obviously an optional dungeon.
And unless you've lost your memory, everyone knows that Sastasha is an MSQ dungeon.

that means: You have no choice.
If, you don't want Sastasha don't launch roulette leveling
If, you don't want 45 min of dungeon with kinematics, don't launch MSQ roulette.

You don't have a choice about the content of a roulette, but you have a choice not to.


In the word random, there is the word random, so far it doesn't shock me.
The gain in Xp is there to compensate for your frustration.

A token to have a material VII and VIII, I find that good.

Like making 1 MSQ roulette gives 500 Memo for the relic weapon, it takes about 1 hour to make 3 dungeons, doing an MSQ roulette takes 45 min, you spend time watching cinematics in exchange, you don't have to do 3 runs dungeon where you can skip the cutscenes and take everything in pack.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

I used the example of Aurum Vale, because it is obviously an optional dungeon.
And unless you've lost your memory, everyone knows that Sastasha is an MSQ dungeon.

that means: You have no choice.
If, you don't want Sastasha don't launch roulette leveling
If, you don't want 45 min of dungeon with kinematics, don't launch MSQ roulette.

You don't have a choice about the content of a roulette, but you have a choice not to.


In the word random, there is the word random, so far it doesn't shock me.
The gain in Xp is there to compensate for your frustration.

A token to have a material VII and VIII, I find that good.

Like making 1 MSQ roulette gives 500 Memo for the relic weapon, it takes about 1 hour to make 3 dungeons, doing an MSQ roulette takes 45 min, you spend time watching cinematics in exchange, you don't have to do 3 runs dungeon where you can skip the cutscenes and take everything in pack.

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Now read what I said again. It literally said - I'd rather do all side quests in game than go into leveling roulette
And that what I literally did. Do a big brain move.

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Originally Posted by Enla

Aurum Vale isn't part of the MSQ, it's an optional side dungeon. It's unlocked from the same NPC that gives you Halatali, Qarn, and Amdapoor Keep. It was only needed for Grand Company completion at one point, unless they changed it recently but I can't find any patch notes to indicate they did.

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When you think about it, it's not really optional either. You're not gonna advance in GC rank unless you complete that dungeon, and by forgoing it, you can forget about Squadrons, for one thing. I guess if poeple want that Maelstrom storm captain coat, they would feel compelled to go through this.

Heh, I remember when it was Amdapor Keep for the 2nd Lieutenant promotion, rather than Aurum Vale. :) Memories, like the corner of my mind!

You know. At least you didn't get aurum vale. Be thankful for that OP.

Meh atleast with that group you could straight up to wall-to-wall pulls and speed run it. I quick daily exp is a win in my book.