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    BluexBird's Avatar
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    Leveling Roulette

    Can someone please explain to me why I, a level 67 Black Mage, had to wait almost half an hour on the leveling roulette queue, to be put into SASTASHA, with a Dark Knight, an Astrologian, and a Summoner?

    In case you don't know, Dark Knight and Astrologian start at level 30. The Summoner had level 70 gear. Why were the 4 of us put into a LEVEL FIFTEEN DUNGEON?!

    Leveling in this game is already hard enough. The quests don't give anywhere near as much EXP as they should, considering the amount of time (and patience) they require to complete. The only other alternative are FATEs (which are only viable in Shadowbringers), and dungeons.

    If the only explanation to this situation is "leveling roulette picks a dungeon at random", which I doubt is the case, wouldn't it be reasonable (and extremely desirable for everyone) if they were to look into this and potentially fix this, so that people who are trying to level up a DPS don't get a slap to the face like this again please?
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Think it’s a the same exp tho. From what I’ve been told the exp is balanced. Lower dungeon gives less exp per kill but a better bonus at the end while higher dungeon gove more exp per kill but a smaller bonus to compensate. What you don’t want is one of the trials lol now that’s a mother matter.
    Could be wrong tho as I’ve not done the math, just what I’ve been told when levelling and having similar complaints
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    Kiro Isamu
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    I think one of those players likely queued for Sastasha manually, for whatever reason (probably training new job if they are new or only played SCH thus far), and you got matched with them based on queue time of all players involved.
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Mateus
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    This is an old gripe. A very old one. The duty finder only subtracts from your pool based on member level and the dungeon you get, even if you have a completely full preformed party is totally random. Try being a party of all 79 level members and getting Sastasha. There are debates going way back about this and unfortunately I don't see it ever being addressed.

    However, Sastasha used to be preferred if you didn't get something close to your current level due to the huge exp scaling for a very low skill dungeon but I don't know if that's still the case. Me? I que as Tank (which I'm not particularly good at) at lvl 79 thinking I'll get Brayflox or something and get Mt. Gulg. Sometimes RNG likes to get it's laughs in I guess.
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Yeah, I almost always get Mt. Gulg as a tank.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    If the only explanation to this situation is "leveling roulette picks a dungeon at random", which I doubt is the case...
    Picking something at random is exactly what "roulette" implies.

    If one of those Lv30 jobs is newly unlocked, your chance of getting Sastasha is one-in-five - or one-in-six if everyone has unlocked Halatali. (And if you don't get Sastasha, your chances of getting something else equally unwanted are pretty high.)

    But there's also a decent chance of you being pulled into high-level content, if you're needed because someone directly queued for a higher dungeon you're eligible for. But those times aren't going to stick in your mind the same way.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 05-09-2020 at 05:09 AM.

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    Cressell Sybellos
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    Man, I thought you were kidding when you said you were going to complain on the official forums.
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    "leveling roulette picks a dungeon at random",
    If you are not seeded into a group with someone having selected a dungeon, roulettes pick a random instance all players have unlocked AND have any applicable ilvl for.

    Its why you will be disproportionately put into the lowest level mandatory instances, then current level instances, with older, optional instances last.


    XP rewards for roulette bonuses (first time per day) are a set amount based on the level of the class you queued with, minus xp earned from kills (though this is reduced for 4man trials in leveling roulette).
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    Last edited by Barraind; 05-09-2020 at 08:43 AM.

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    Chisato Nishikigi
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    "why I, a level 67 Black Mage, had to wait almost half an hour on the leveling roulette queue"
    Simple. Because you aren't a Healer or a Tank

    "Leveling in this game is already hard enough"
    Yeah ... No. Levelling in this game is easy
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    When i see a Lalafell character wearing a cute glam

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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    The daily roulette bonus scales up your EXP in accordance to how much you outlevel the content that you get, so it doesn't much matter. You get lower EXP from the actual dungeon but the increased bonus at the end compensates.


    If you were to roll a level-appropriate dungeon, the roulette bonus will be significantly lower.
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