Hrothgar Hair

you thought it was THAT type of thread
There is a Hrothgar in the new Area which has a hair style that face can not have

so hopefully don't have to use fantasia to change hair soon

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...067&height=588

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...067&height=588

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...067&height=588

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...067&height=588

heres another one

Was wondering when people here were gonna notice this.

Only saw it pointed out in a discord group.
I think it's a hint at whats to come.

I would expect it to be "another face" though, not the ability to switch freely.

Unless they're restructuring the character creator to fit it in, I don't think there's any way they can add hairstyle choice without removing other settings, possibly specifically choice of fur pattern.

I would hope with the team away from the office that some team members could still do work like Viera Hair and Hrothar hair while working at home. I would think these things might not require a team working together in the office so maybe we might get somethings sooner as a result of the lockdown.

I suspect that we'll get a major update to the characters as opposed to adding some a little at a time but who knows really how they'll be doing it.

Wishful thinking probably :P.

And they really need to fix the fantasia thing when it comes to Hrothgar. I wouldn't be happy in the least if I had to pay for a fantasia to change my Viera hair.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Wishful thinking probably :P.

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Their entire schedule is delayed, and you're hoping they'll get to the extra stuff they couldn't even fit into it when running normally? Wishful thinking indeed.

If anything we just have to hope they don't need to compromise on what they can deliver in terms of gameplay and storytelling.

Was wondering if those were different styles. Hadn't seen those looks around before, but I guess they could just be less popular (or the faces they're attached to could be hah)

I can hope, for all of us Hroth and Viera players, that it means they made some progress :p could be nothing but. I can hope

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Their entire schedule is delayed, and you're hoping they'll get to the extra stuff they couldn't even fit into it when running normally? Wishful thinking indeed.

If anything we just have to hope they don't need to compromise on what they can deliver in terms of gameplay and storytelling.

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People can work away from the office. Many are doing that today. My roommate for example has been working non stop at home because she has an IT job and that allows her to work remotely. I seriously doubt that the development team is sitting around doing nothing watching Anime on TV. I suspect there is work being done and for all we know this might be something that can e worked on when away from the office.

We'll have to wait and see how development is affected but after all is said and done keeping the team safe is a priority.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Their entire schedule is delayed, and you're hoping they'll get to the extra stuff they couldn't even fit into it when running normally? Wishful thinking indeed.

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It probably is wishful thinking, but with people able to remote work and the big stuff delayed for maybe a month (or more) might be that some devs do a little bit of work on some of the less important side stuff?

Seems kinda backwards thinking. It's delayed because they're having to spend more time on the big stuff, not because they're just putting it off. Working from home means more delays all along the chain. Those delays would still be present in the "side stuff." Side stuff would also take longer to develop, same as big stuff.

Also, not the first NPC to have unique or otherwise impossible combinations. So optimism might be a bit premature.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Also, not the first NPC to have unique or otherwise impossible combinations. So optimism might be a bit premature.

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That's what I am thinking too. Au Ra horns are attached to their faces and can't be customized, yet there are some npcs that have different horn-face combinations not available to players.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Seems kinda backwards thinking. It's delayed because they're having to spend more time on the big stuff, not because they're just putting it off. Working from home means more delays all along the chain. Those delays would still be present in the "side stuff." Side stuff would also take longer to develop, same as big stuff.

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Just going on my own experience, before where I work got so quiet there was no point opening we were filling the time getting little side jobs out of the way. Stuff that you keep meaning to look at but can't because you're constantly busy with your normal schedule.

I mean, the big stuff in XIV requires voice acting and new music and other stuff that I expect is a real pain in the ass to get done right now. Fiddling with hair cuts in the character creator seems like something that could still be done though.

As I said, a long shot, not expecting anything to happen really, but that was my logic for thinking we might have gone from 1% chance to maybe 2 or 3%.

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Originally Posted by myahele

That's what I am thinking too. Au Ra horns are attached to their faces and can't be customized, yet there are some npcs that have different horn-face combinations not available to players.

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Difference is that they've never said au ra faces would ever get new horn combos (which would be a cc update/ change/ rework for that race) where as we known hrothgar are getting more manes, and as of right now the only way to change manes is through the cc.
At the very least this shows that they have worked on making some manes look good on other faces (unlike the first time we saw face 1's mane on face 3 for a promo render. both hairline and ears clipped badly)

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Originally Posted by reivaxe

Difference is that they've never said au ra faces would ever get new horn combos (which would be a cc update/ change/ rework for that race) where as we known hrothgar are getting more manes, and as of right now the only way to change manes is through the cc.

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Actually come to think of it, they probably could implement horn choice for Au Ra in the same way that they've done hair choices for Hrothgar - "new faces" that are actually the old faces with different horns attached.

When we get new Hrothgar manes, they are almost certainly still going to be changed through the CC, just with more choices available.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Actually come to think of it, they probably could implement horn choice for Au Ra in the same way that they've done hair choices for Hrothgar - "new faces" that are actually the old faces with different horns attached.

When we get new Hrothgar manes, they are almost certainly still going to be changed through the CC, just with more choices available.

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I mean, yeah, they could add new things to every race by making "new faces". They could give every female of every race a face with options to look kinda like Gaia so that I could live my dream of have a Gaia lips Femroe.

But that would be under "adding CC options to races/ expanding on the CC" which isn't something they ever said they wouldn't do(I do believe YP said that they would do that before making a new race that looks a lot like a current one or something) ... but they haven't confirmed to be doing it for any race other than Hrothgar.

So yeah, seeing Hrothgar with differently matched manes is very much something to be hopeful/ excited about and is very much different from seeing a Human with elezen ears or Au ra with mixed up horns as it's something they said they are working on doing.
If anything people should be asking if this hints at them making just the current manes work on more faces OR if this is it's own thing and all the new manes will just be new concepts ... or if it's a bit of both where they make some manes that could work with other face styles open to them but also make new mane styles for all faces.

But yeah, I don't think Manes are ever not gonna be a CC thing. Would be nice to be surprised by them reworking that or at least sending Hrothgar a potion when ever they release it. But ehh.

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Originally Posted by myahele

That's what I am thinking too. Au Ra horns are attached to their faces and can't be customized, yet there are some npcs that have different horn-face combinations not available to players.

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those Au ra are the children or the Older player model which we know we are not getting
but these Hrothgar face options are already available to the player

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Originally Posted by Duskane

those Au ra are the children or the Older player model which we know we are not getting
but these Hrothgar face options are already available to the player

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There are some "normal" Au Ra that seem to have horns that don't correspond to their face type too (eg. Yugiri and Mide) though it's done with custom faces based on standard ones.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

There are some "normal" Au Ra that seem to have horns that don't correspond to their face type too (eg. Yugiri and Mide) though it's done with custom faces based on standard ones.

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The difference there seems to be that those two are major npcs for their arcs, but these are just background hroths. This wouldn’t be the first time they used background npcs to showcase hairstyles to come. I remember noticing npcs with new hair before it was released, such as the braided bob you can get from eureka showed up on an EB npc before it was available to player characters. I do think these hroths are small teasers. There’s no reason for them to make these npcs unique- there aren’t enough of them in the area to justify resorting to designing unique combinations unavailable in cc.

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Originally Posted by BunniEclair

The difference there seems to be that those two are major npcs for their arcs, but these are just background hroths. This wouldn’t be the first time they used background npcs to showcase hairstyles to come. I remember noticing npcs with new hair before it was released, such as the braided bob you can get from eureka showed up on an EB npc before it was available to player characters. I do think these hroths are small teasers. There’s no reason for them to make these npcs unique- there aren’t enough of them in the area to justify resorting to designing unique combinations unavailable in cc.

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Pretty much.

I get people being skeptical but there's way fewer Hrothgar here than in La-Hee land and they have outright told us Hrothgar are getting new manes and faces so why wouldn't this be a hint at that?
Hell, they recently teased the new dyes by putting NPCs in LL- ocean fishing area with some of them and some people noticed the difference.

Green one is a face 2 with face 1's beard and face 3's hair without the added side locks, perhaps the new Hrothgar faces will be mixing and matching features and manes.

I wouldnt be suprised if the dev team are working on some upgrades and improvements for the character creator that will get implimented at some point, same with the whole situation with hats and hair, viera certainly COULD be fixed if they simply just hide the ear and add ear covers to certain items similar to Mi'quote ears though this still requires altering said pieces to fit them in, I wish they'd at least focus on fixing AF gear first then expand out to Ironworks, Coil, Shire, Alexander, Scavean and Omega sets.