I miss Deep Dungeons.

I've had so many great memories trying to go to the max floor with friends.

The randomness of it all, the traps that put you on edge, the summons and the pomanders, the boss fights, the time limit.

All of that.

And also the solo mode, I'm still trying to get the title: The Necromancer. And it's great fun.

I haven't personally used it to level up much, but because I actually enjoyed it. However, being able to level through it was a great bonus.

Before Shadowbringers even came out, I was looking forward to it. Some of us who did PotD and HoH were planning to go back into it this expansion.

And now we don't have one at all this expansion.

I'm disappointed that we didn't get a warning in advance that they were cutting it out, they told us we wouldn't get the extra dungeon, why no warning about deep dungeon being cut out? Did I miss it?

Is it a delay or is it just not coming back forever?

Am I the only one who enjoyed this or is there more people who were looking forward to it? I personally looked forward to this more than any relic.

I hope we will see a return of it before 6.0 or at least an announcement for 6.0.

I don't think it's been confirmed we won't have one, but it's too soon for one anyways. Maybe mid 5.3 or 5.4?

Trusts are a form of leveling but they're way too slow and time consuming to be a comparative method, so I doubt we won't get a deep dungeon because we already have trusts (unless they massively increase the XP gain, give the NPCs an AoE rotation, and also boost their overall damage)

In a schedule PotD and HoH came out in 3.35 and 4.35 respectively. We recently only got 5.25.

While Yoshida said something about new deep dungeon not being planned (somebody on Forum mentioned it, but I don't have the source for this statement of his), but it's not like they never changed their plans, so right now, almost 3 months before (or even more) we get 5.35 it's a bit early to make any conclusions as to if we will or won't have new deep dungeon or something instead of it, imo.

Yoshida in regards to a 5.0 deep dungeon: "I 'm sorry, because I'm making a lot of new content, the production cost to go here has disappeared. Actually, I wanted to have a place for leveling in case the next extension package came out ... Even though the project has been completed, the cost of making it is not currently available, so I'm thinking of taking a day off in the deep dungeon. I'm preparing for ranch-like play that I've been talking about for a long time, and since patch 5.3, I'm going to have a lot of content mainly for living."

Here's what made me think there wouldn't be one:

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Originally Posted by Yencat

According to the Dengekionline interview with Yoshida they're skipping Deep Dungeon and by the sounds of it will add it in the new expansion, or close to the end of this one. Instead we're getting a type of ranch(?).

I enjoyed Deep Dungeon content so it's a shame to see it go (for now, at least) but curious what the 'ranch-like play' might be like.



Source: (https://dengekionline.com/articles/26085/)

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Originally Posted by Sabrenn

Here's what made me think there wouldn't be one:

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Ranch, huh? I suppose it will be DoH/DoL content (they really get a lot of attention this expansion... which is cool, because normally they didn't get almost any at all), but it actually sounds intriquing.

Yeah, hopefully it won't be locked behind housing!

[laughs in stardew valley]

But seriously I loved POTD/HOH. I was hoping we might get to go explore some Ronkan ruins or something underwater.

If it happens it does, but i'd rather not. Found it boring as hell the deep dungeons. And for leveling, you dont even have to learn your class in there. So we got an influx of max levels with their padjali or ther weapn not having a clue as to how to play. No thanks please
might be something if the xp reward was either lowered or removed and some decent rewards put into its place.

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

If it happens it does, but i'd rather not. Found it boring as hell the deep dungeons. And for leveling, you dont even have to learn your class in there. So we got an influx of max levels with their padjali or ther weapn not having a clue as to how to play. No thanks please
might be something if the xp reward was either lowered or removed and some decent rewards put into its place.

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This is largely my take on it. I like the idea of POTD/HOH, but a few things really just didn't sit well with me regarding them.

- If you didn't do them while they were current/most relevant, you'll have a hard time leveling up your Aetherpool gear. This is largely due to people with red weapons rushing through for exp only, and you have the choice of going with them and missing tons of chests, or potentially slowing down the run/getting people pissy with you for trying to level up your stuff. This in turns makes you less useful during these runs because you can't power up your gear.
- The big one, you don't actually learn anything about your job. I used to try to use POTD to get a feel for how my job would play, but quickly learned that because the content had to be tuned for a group of 4 DPS to be able to clear, how you play a Deep Dungeon differs greatly from how the entire rest of the game plays. As such, it was only even halfway decent for arranging your hotbars, which you can do outside anyway.
- Too much random. All the random curses, not getting decent pomanders/getting the same one duped 6 more times after you cap, randomly stepping on a trap that can explode and one hit squishy jobs, etc. The least problematic thing all told, but I'm not a fan of RNG to begin with, so it always sticks with me when I think of Deep Dungeons.

All in all, much like Eureka, interesting concept, but the execution was a little bit of a miss. Fortunately I have Squadrons to level to 60, and Trusts from 71-80, so only that 60-70 gap is painful. Ironically, still less painful than bothering with Heaven on High.

I miss Deep Dungeon as well. I don't really feel like it contributed that much to people not knowing their class, because people STILL don't know how to play their class, even without it. And the benefits of PotD certainly outweigh the negatives listed so far. It was multifaceted content that could serve purposes ranging anywhere from making money, leveling alts, going for a high score, getting unique glamour/mounts, etc.

And now we're losing it for a minion farm. Big bummer for me, but hopefully this new farm thing is cool and sticks longer than Ocean Fishing/Restoration does.

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Originally Posted by Bhatu

I miss Deep Dungeon as well. I don't really feel like it contributed that much to people not knowing their class, because people STILL don't know how to play their class, even without it. And the benefits of PotD certainly outweigh the negatives listed so far. It was multifaceted content that could serve purposes ranging anywhere from making money, leveling alts, going for a high score, getting unique glamour/mounts, etc.

And now we're losing it for a minion farm. Big bummer for me, but hopefully this new farm thing is cool and sticks longer than Ocean Fishing/Restoration does.

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Any new content idea always released in an almost-dead state, or was dead 3 weeks in. Ranch will be the same. MMORPGs work my providing primary gameplay content, and THEN add some side activities that ideally mesh with main gameplay. So far, most of this expansion and especially the patches seems primarily based on adding side activities with no primary gameplay connected to them. This is particularly noticable with how Gatherer content is treated. You have like 3 different ways to just quicklevel them to max, but there are only 3 classes since forever, and nobody really understands what you need all that gathering gear for, since there is no actual gameplay other than running from node to node for those classes.

Call it ranch play but pre shb or he called it a minion farm. So I imagine maybe it’s similar to all other farm games if that’s your thing. Could be another verminion tho

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

[laughs in stardew valley]

But seriously I loved POTD/HOH. I was hoping we might get to go explore some Ronkan ruins or something underwater.

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agreed! missed opportunity not to get a Ronkan Ruins deep dungeon it has the potential to be good

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Originally Posted by Almandaragal

- If you didn't do them while they were current/most relevant, you'll have a hard time leveling up your Aetherpool gear. This is largely due to people with red weapons rushing through for exp only, and you have the choice of going with them and missing tons of chests, or potentially slowing down the run/getting people pissy with you for trying to level up your stuff. This in turns makes you less useful during these runs because you can't power up your gear.

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I made my character Mid stormblood and I had no problem leveling my weapon in potd which was not current. Just find some balance between you and the others. Open them on the way but don't go to the opposite side of the floor for 1 chest when the next floor is unlocked.

I don’t miss it. It was the same thing each floor. The first deep dungeon was new and ok, but after hitting floor 10 I was like yeah I get it. Then hitting floor 50ish I just did t care for it. The second dungeon heaven in high or whatever its called I didn’t bother doing it after clearing 10. The developer missed a great opportunity to add puzzles/platforming and all finds of fun random activities. Why did all the floors have to be combat? Why not make some floors have mazes or a game room? Something to spice things up.

I don't miss them. They're repetitive and boring.

I too miss the deep dungeons. They were not perfect (and I disliked the story in HoH) but they were great for leveling the jobs and for having something to do with a small party. Heck I loved it the most trying to do it solo or just with a friend and somewhere in the next few months we will try it again..my only problem was always how they never tuned the first one for solo jobs and how one single DC was the end of hours of work..other than that it was finally content that I could try alone..

I loved the deep dungeons, but unfortunately I feel I've mined all the fun I can from the first two, was really looking forward to the third and was very disappointed to hear we're almost certainly not getting it till 6.something.

It was good, reasonably challenging, 4 man content. Something the game has a real lack of.

I dont get it.
It's the same thing over and over with a different layout in Potd

It's Diablo in 3D
I fell asleep trying to do it.

Always loved deep dungeons and still doing them even now. Already obtained everything that I wanted to get from them except title Necromancer, but currently working on it. It's frustrating, yeah, but I really enjoy it. Also helping friends to get their aertherpool gear upgraded then gonna help with clears. And don't mind farming it even more to help them get their mounts. So for now i'm still good as this content is still keeping me busy and excited. But i'm saddened by Yoshi's decision to skip it in favour of 'new content'... at least for now, since we have absolutely no idea what it will be, but still... deep dungeons so far have been my absolutely favorite peace of content in this game. And here's my reasons why I love it so much:

1.It's light party content. I've never been a fan of Full party or Alliance content as it requires too much coordination and I simply prefer playing with smaller group of friends.

2.It allows very flexible party setup. Go either as 4 players or less, or even solo, just pick any jobs you like, go in and have fun! Any setup works.

3.Random nature of dungeon. All kinds of invisible traps everywhere, random floor effects, coffers, surprise mimics... plenty of fun mechanics inside. And if you're going solo or as duo - gotta be really careful as it's very possible to wipe even at low floors and it's a game over, cos no wipes allowed if you wanna reach the final floors.

4.Plenty of nice rewards to keep you motivated: mounts, glam weapons, glam accessoires, housing items and of course cool titles.

5.Accessibility. It kinda ties with points 1 and 2, but I like how accessible it is, as it doesn't requires anything from you, just go in, with random party or pre-made or even solo, and have fun. Easy and simple to begin, and controllable difficulty depending on your goals and your party size/setup.

I really could have put money on the castle in Il Mheg being the deep dungeon when the expansion first came out.

Just let us explore it! D:

Shinra building deep dungeon crossover or I cry

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

I really could have put money on the castle in Il Mheg being the deep dungeon when the expansion first came out.

Just let us explore it! D:

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Lyhe Ghiah is already in the game as the treasure map dungeon. But it pulling double duty as a deep dungeon would be great.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

I really could have put money on the castle in Il Mheg being the deep dungeon when the expansion first came out.

Just let us explore it! D:

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Oh that would have been a great spot for it! Or maybe in a Eulmoran basement. Something ritzy though!