How am I supposed to use the Market Wards in Gridania or Limsa Lominsa?

So, I noticed that there are markets in all 3 cities, not just Ul'Dah.

If I go to buy something in Gridania.... knowing that most of the items are in Ul'Dah because I heard that from my Linkshell, how do I know I'm not getting ripped off?

If I go to sell something in Gridania.. how do I know what price to use? How do I know my price isn't way too high or too low compared to what everybody expects in Ul'Dah?

If I want to shop for gear.. why would I go to Gridania or Limsa Lominsa knowing that I could only find one or two pieces of gear, and maybe not even at my level? It would be a waste of time to go have to go to Ul'Dah second just to pick up the other pieces.

Why would I shop in Gridania or Limsa Lominsa when I can't see a list of all the gear available to me there? The markets only show what gear has been listed there, not all the possible choices. So how do I know if I see a piece of equipment in Gridania or Limsa Lominsa if it's the closest thing to my level or not when I can't see what else there is?

Why would I sell items in Gridania or Limsa Lominsa when I know they will sell a lot slower than in Ul'Dah? My retainers are both 150/150 so I can't afford to sell slow.

Trying to sell anything in Gridania or Limsa would be a waste of time as nobody uses those wards.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Trying to sell anything in Gridania or Limsa would be a waste of time as nobody uses those wards.

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My, my.. a value judgement? Could it be that more people feel this way?

..oh... em ... gee

I can't figure out if this topic is serious or not. You're at that level, and just finding out NOW?

Just remember, if you're selling something in LL or Grid, you're basically the ONLY source for that product. It's easier to see while browsing, and if the price is right, people will buy it. I like to think of using an "Out of Ul" discount of 15% when I'll eventually sell things.

Monopolize limsa and gridania!

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Originally Posted by Zelkelion

I can't figure out if this topic is serious or not. You're at that level, and just finding out NOW?

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He's been here for over a year. Yes, he knows.

I think he's bored. :rolleyes:

I have a retainer in LL and one in gridania. I sell out just fine, but at about 1/2 the pace of Uldah, maybe slightly less. BUT, I don't have any hassles there. I also have had a tendancy since day 1 to spend more time in gridania then in Uldah. I also manage my wares. I know the carpentry guild is in Grid, and since I am leveling BTN, I sell my wood items in Grid.

it's a bit surprising the three wards weren't linked a long time ago though.

I don't think the game is nearly as well put together as it might seem. Seriously... the amount of interface and game lag I get in the crowded streets of Ul'dah is insane. I just don't go there now.

I'll move to LL and shop in those wards. Support migration of trade!

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

it's a bit surprising the three wards weren't linked a long time ago though.

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Honestly,the fact that alot of things were not done a long time ago, or at launch for that matter, are surprising.

It's already been stated by a dev that they can not link the wards now because of server restrictions.

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I've made a couple million in Gridania, but it's really sporadic.

I only bothered to post here, however, to say that customers need to use their best opinion on whether or not they're getting ripped off, just like when sellers put up an item for a price they need to not be stupid and put up items at a terrible or negative profit margins.

I was able to get a very valuable item to me for 200 gil per when they're a synth of a 1500 gil item just a few days ago, so I bought 600 of them.

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Originally Posted by Zelkelion

I don't think the game is nearly as well put together as it might seem.

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It definitely doesn't seem well put together... haha

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Originally Posted by Zelkelion

I can't figure out if this topic is serious or not. You're at that level, and just finding out NOW?

Just remember, if you're selling something in LL or Grid, you're basically the ONLY source for that product. It's easier to see while browsing, and if the price is right, people will buy it. I like to think of using an "Out of Ul" discount of 15% when I'll eventually sell things.

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I'm just trying to present the discussion in the most open-ended way possible, lol. Trying my best to be ..neutral! On to your statement, how do I know what a discount is? A discount off of what? I have to go to Ul'Dah just to find out. So why would I not sell in Ul'Dah if I am already there checking the price?

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

it's a bit surprising the three wards weren't linked a long time ago though.

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*gasp* Shush with this logic! A dev might hear you.. O.O

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

It's already been stated by a dev that they can not link the wards now because of server restrictions.

/endthread

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Not /endthread. That's nice to know that just like everything else they blamed it on the crappy work of the other team, but do we have anything to look forward to?

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

I've made a couple million in Gridania, but it's really sporadic.

I only bothered to post here, however, to say that customers need to use their best opinion on whether or not they're getting ripped off, just like when sellers put up an item for a price they need to not be stupid and put up items at a terrible or negative profit margins.

I was able to get a very valuable item to me for 200 gil per when they're a synth of a 1500 gil item just a few days ago, so I bought 600 of them.

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How do you know what price to sell an item for? I look at my retainer's inventory, and I have a huge list of branches and logs with no point of reference. Are they worth 500 gil, 5000 gil, or 50,000 gil? Who can say? Why would I sell in Gridania or Limsa Lominsa with those kind of lingering questions!

Oh come on Neptune, you know damn well why you cant see prices at the other cities, so you are either trolling to see who you can get riled up about this, or you are some new player who bought Neptunes account from RMT and honestly dont know

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Oh come on Neptune, you know damn well why you cant see prices at the other cities, so you are either trolling to see who you can get riled up about this, or you are some new player who bought Neptunes account from RMT and honestly dont know

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or...
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Partial amnesia

Lol vedis. I'm just trying to make a point, start a discussion, and maybe even get some feedback from the dev team.

I'm pretty amazed by it, but there are a lot of new people starting the game right now. A friend of mine started a linkshell just for noobs and it is really active. What do you think new people are going to think when they hit the market wards for the first time? If they decide to quit the game because of how stupid it is, what's to stop them? 2.0? 2.0 is a joke to new people, especially when there isn't any kind of detailed information to go by, like the kind about the wards.

They said in a post that the wards for the three main cities will be linked. How much more detailed can it get until it gets through your skull?

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

They said in a post that the wards for the three main cities will be linked. How much more detailed can it get until it gets through your skull?

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They... did???

I'm so over you Neptune. Since your posts about MP and cure costs. It's just LOL at you now basically

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How do you know what price to sell an item for? I look at my retainer's inventory, and I have a huge list of branches and logs with no point of reference. Are they worth 500 gil, 5000 gil, or 50,000 gil? Who can say? Why would I sell in Gridania or Limsa Lominsa with those kind of lingering questions!

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Because none of these items have any value by themselves, it's a function of your time versus your wealth. Most people aren't the sole provider of all of their materials, so they use the markets to buy them. You calculate up how much you spent for the items, you consider the scarcity of the item you're making on the market, and you consider what your supply is and how fast you want it to deplete. For me, I try to make sure that my costs are only 25% of my revenue ideally, but if enough moves and I'm active enough in the market I will go down to about 50% profit. You then adjust based on what the market information tells you, and you get out of dodge if you are surrounded by undercutters [I make a component item that sells for about 50k on my server, but it's used as a component of an item that sells for only 40k......]

I'm not sure if what you said was sarcasm or not, but your time related to your wealth is that point of reference you're asking about.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

How do you know what price to sell an item for? I look at my retainer's inventory, and I have a huge list of branches and logs with no point of reference. Are they worth 500 gil, 5000 gil, or 50,000 gil? Who can say? Why would I sell in Gridania or Limsa Lominsa with those kind of lingering questions!

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Remember when YG was awesome for that