Why am I level 54 and still have no defensive cd's?!

New player with my FIRST complain about this game: I'm a level 54 dps and have no defensive cool downs, if I have to fight 2+ mobs, I DIE! And don't tell me to get good, I do my rotation, I do damage, but the mobs kill me before I kill them because it's too much damage and there's nothing I can do.

SECOND complain: no corpse run.

I'm losing interest, pretty fast.

Now flame me all you want, do your worst.

Upgrade your gear.

And use your chocobo

Edit: I just checked your lodestone, you have good gear. So get your Chocobo Companion and set it as a Healer.

BTW Dragoon is a DPS job not a tank, so don't mob.

If you are still dying it's because you are either not dodging stuff properly or not pressing your buttons correctly.

You shouldn't really be trying to fight multiple enemies in the overworld, especially without backup from your chocobo. (You don't need it in healer stance particularly, as long as you level up its healer skills - I leave mine in free stance. If it helps you kill things faster, that's also a damage reduction in the long run.)

If you're outnumbered and struggling, you can run away - enemies will only chase you so far.

Also, are you setting role skills? They're in a separate menu to your job skills and include support and HP-regain skills.

You have Bloodbath, Feint, Second Wind, Arm's Length and Leg Sweep. Are you using those? They're pretty good.

Most defensive cooldowns are under the "Role" tab on the skills page.

OP you may not have as many defensive skills as you want in-game, but you sure are defensive irl. You don't need to follow up each statement with "go ahead and flame me" or "don't tell me to get good".

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Originally Posted by yajnaji

New player with my FIRST complain about this game: I'm a level 54 dps and have no defensive cool downs, if I have to fight 2+ mobs, I DIE! And don't tell me to get good, I do my rotation, I do damage, but the mobs kill me before I kill them because it's too much damage and there's nothing I can do.

SECOND complain: no corpse run.

I'm losing interest, pretty fast.

Now flame me all you want, do your worst.

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Depends on which dps class you are playing
If it's a caster for example, black mage has Mana ward which gives you 30% shield of your maximum HP
If you're playing a melee dps, you need to check your role actions. Each type of class, dps, heal, tanks have role actions. Bloodbath restores your HP when dealing damage to an enemy. Second wind restores your HP at a base potency. If you're playing a physical range dps, you only have second wind but you also have slows, ensnares, stun at your disposal to help your survival. We're not here to flame you. Also corpse running sounds like a hassle. You can pretty much mount and get to where you need to go pretty quickly.
Noticing your class on your profile, you are a melee dps. Which means blood bath, second wind, are in your role actions. Click and drag them to your hot bar. This should help quite a bit. Take care

As a level 54 Dragoon, you have:

Life Surge - Level 6
Second Wind - Level 8
Leg Sweep - Level 10
Bloodbath - Level 12
Feint - Level 22
Arm's Length - Level 32
Spineshatter Dive - Level 45

As well as Piercing Talon (Level 15) in order to pull mobs so you don't fight close to other ones that can make you end up fighting multiple targets at once.

That's a few more than no defensive CD's last I checked.

You sound angry, pull 1 mob at a time, this isn't wow.

They're right. If you're a Melee DPS, you shouldn't be trying to pull multiple enemies if you can help it. It'd be one thing if you were a BLM since you could cast Sleep on a group that's vulnerable and then single target, or a Ranged that can use Foot Graze to pin one in place while you deal with another. But Melee DPS only have Arm's Length, which can cause Slow, Feint, which will reduce damage for a few seconds, as cooldowns. If you have to pull more than one, the best you can do is pop those, Low Kick the one that hits hardest, and then proceed to pop Bloodbath and try to kill them all as fast as possible.

If you have your Chocobo, they can Tank for you. In a worst case scenario, let the Chocobo distract all the enemies and run away.

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Originally Posted by Kalise

Spineshatter Dive - Level 45

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Wait... how is that a defensive CD?

... do you mean Elusive Jump (Level 35) as a means to back out of an engagement?

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Originally Posted by Archwizard

Wait... how is that a defensive CD?

... do you mean Elusive Jump (Level 35) as a means to back out of an engagement?

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It used to have a stun, don't remember if it still does.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

It used to have a stun, don't remember if it still does.

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It doesn't, you just butt plant on your target. Though even that can be used defensively to jump to a mob further away if you pulled too much and need a headstart when running away.

With all the tools Kalise listed you really shouldn't have any trouble against two mobs. But you either pull single and focus it down or pull huge and aoe. 2-3 mobs isn't even faster and since you're not a tank you're not made to survive it.
But if you accidentally pulled two mobs: stun one, Leg Sweep only has 40sec cd. You can use it a 2nd time into the fight.
Arm's Length as stun wears off to weaken both. Focus one other down, use Life Surge, Bloodbath and Second Wind to restore HP.
Feint for additional dmg reduce.

If all else fails: Elusive Jump and run. But Dragoon has a nice kit to easily survive multiple mobs even without a Chocobo out.

Also, pots are really cheap and are nice at lower levels. They're good way to bridge the time until other skills come off CD.

He says when Dragoon has some of the best DPS self sustain in the game.

Huh. I always thought Arm's Length only proc'd when it prevented a knockback/draw-in effect. Didn't realize the slow was just a bonus.

I kind of hate Spineshatter Dive doesn't have Stun anymore. But yeah, Arm's Length has a chance to proc so long as the enemy hits the barrier it makes. When you're being dogpiled it can be helpful since Dragoon has limited AoE at that level.

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Originally Posted by yajnaji

New player with my FIRST complain about this game: I'm a level 54 dps and have no defensive cool downs, if I have to fight 2+ mobs, I DIE! And don't tell me to get good, I do my rotation, I do damage, but the mobs kill me before I kill them because it's too much damage and there's nothing I can do.

SECOND complain: no corpse run.

I'm losing interest, pretty fast.

Now flame me all you want, do your worst.

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Well, you *do* have a couple buttons..

1). Second Wind: While not really a "defensive cooldown" but popping it does help in a pinch.
2). Life Surge. Save this for your highest damage skill (at 54 that should be Full Thrust with combo). More damage = more healing. A drop in the bucket but better than nothing.

As others have said, get your chocobo out and IMO, you should have your chocobo learn Choco Cure first and then go down the DPS tree and leave it in Free Stance. I find that is way more than I need to help me stay alive.

I can pull 2-3 enemies in a FATE simultaneously and win, rather comfortably as any DPS job (including Dragoon). RDM can do a bit more for obvious reasons (really, Vercure rocks).

2 pages of feedback, no flame, and he still hasn't replied a single time.